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To: MestaMachine

Reponding to your great post #807. I believe all of it and also that many knew it was going to happen including Brennan, Clapper, and Petraeus. I’ve been interested in the motives, which keeps making me want look back, to Yugoslavia. Did they begin their greedy, murderous, destructive path with that country, and if so why? Per history it was a country that saved Europe for centuries from the Jihadi Salafists-Wahhabis Caliphate-ists. The country was already weakened financially, weakened further by having their paid Jihad Salafist-Wahhabi assassins create a ground war in advance, then the NGO media made it appear like was a genocide against Muslims by the Serbs. When it was a country trying to save itself from them. NATO - Clinon, Westley Clarke et al then bombed it to save them from socalled genocide. The MSM covered it mostly by what they were told by the NGO’s on the ground, to include websites of the NGO’s - ICG/ICC/HRW/IRC - then they setup even more local nonprofit sites to echo their stories. The NGO’s work hand in hand with the MSM...some pay their airfare and the journalists stay with the NGO’s while they’re there - almost like the days when they had a USSR tour guide. Journalists are on the board of many of these nonprofits - true. They eventually Balkanized the country and gave Islam a state of their own and even supplied them with a Grand Mufti...forget his name...Certe or something. Anyway they now have a country in which to train their “army” of jihad assassins and Kosovo is where many of them train as we speak. So there’s now an almost a clear route to Europe. In the end Serbia etc. were easily pressured into selling away their land, oil, mineral, water rights...the globalists got it cheap. If any refused NATO- our govenment/globals created a scandal and the leader was deposed. They also use the threat of no free trade...play ball...or else. It’s really why they hate us. UN-NGO’s have control of the schools, all schools will be taught the same globally, thank George Schultz for signing the US treaty with Russia. They’re standardizing everything from education to healthcare to redistribution to law and order with peace controlled by the tip of the assassin sword. We’ll each have a carbon footprint etc., will live and work in an assigned zone...currency and banking will be the sharia approved microfinance. We’ll have a universal religion...they’re banking on sufi/gnosticism/occultism. They hate those who practice Judeo-Christianity because it gives us a faith with REASON because faith without reason is dead. I guess it’s mostly Agenda 21.

Why did the UN permit Turkey to illegally occupy North Cyprus? Greece is on it’s knees as we speak, Spain next, a naneth from the ground, and so on. When one looks at the map, Israel is the only country left in that region, protecting us from the Globalists!!! What we give them in money is pittance. They’ll probably also Balkanize the Islamic bloc countries, easier to control for the jihadists who’ve been brainwashed into thinking it’s a great thing. And as for us, we’ve got California on it’s last legs, with Jihad Salafists within and without our borders. One could go on...Georgia and their Orange Revolution etc., pipelines everywhere.

I found this on a ME site exactly as written below:

“Sam Basile is here http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/07/idUS214510+07-Apr-2009+PRN20090407

and remember that one of the diplomats killed in Libya!!!! this week was

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/ingame/gamers-mourn-american-killed-libya-995476

That both Basile and Smith were into *games* appear too coincidental thus invited some research...

I looked them up and can’t find a link between either company, i.e., Aruze Gaming America Inc. where Sam Basile was made VP, and CCP’s Eve online where Smith *played games*. There’s been a name game w/ alias’ similar to each other when it came to Sam... Was Nikoula, or was it Sam Basile, taken into protective custody rather than into police custody, for using the computer while on probation? Nikoula = Basile? Nikoula denies it. The others, Klein, Sadek, the preacher...just Christian red meat for the Islamists and perhaps fodder for us to investigate. I still find it difficult to believe that the Coptics would jeopardize their relatives in Egypt in this way.

Just found this...Sam Basile but there’s also a Samantha Basile:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Samantha/Basile

Is Sam Basile a woman? Samantha...NOTE her affiliations:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/samantha-basile/a/a4b/383

Then found this...

“Why did a Saudi Wahabi Al Naas TV Channel take the Arabic translation of the clip from a well known radical Coptic Christian, Maurice Sadek madman, and broadcast it into the homes of 50% illiterate Egyptians knowing what the response would be?

If it were not for the Saudis the movie would never have been shown in the region.

What was their motive?”

Did Maurice Sadek pass it to Khaled Abdullah? Dunno.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2932402/posts
http://gawker.com/5942651/the-filmmaker-who-made-the-anti+islam-video-that-sparked-violent-mideast-protests-is-a-ghost

Dunno any of it really...just thoughts...

September 12th via AP...

This is about the best initial report I’ve read - nowhere does it mention Basile was Jewish - just that he was a real estate developer...no mention of al-Sharia...Nakoula denied he had posed as Basile...
http://www.theprovince.com/news/AntiIslam+filmmaker+hiding+remains+defiant+after+violent+protests/7227267/story.html

September 12th, 6:24am CBS via AP

“One of the groups to emerge in post-revolution Libya, Ansar al-Sharia, claimed responsibility Wednesday for the attack in Benghazi, which has been condemned by the country’s new government.”...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57511043/assault-on-u.s-consulate-in-benghazi-leaves-4-dead-including-u.s-ambassador-j-christopher-stevens/

Al-Sharia initially claimed responsibility and within a day or two was emphatically denying it...what was all that about?

Was it AP or WSJ who got the Jewish real estate developer story going?

WSJ - 12th September, 12:59

By MATT BRADLEY in Cairo and DION NISSENBAUM in Washington

“The man who claimed to be the filmmaker, said he posted the trailer for his film on YouTube in early July. But it had largely escaped attention until recent days, when ACTIVISTS ON TWITTER pointed to clips that included actors in anachronistic costumes, near flimsy sets and often stumbling through lines. Egyptian clerics began widely condemning the footage.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444017504577645681057498266.html

So they twittered it into infamy. The article didn’t mention the Jewish developer BUT - WSJ added this addendum at the bottom of the report:

Corrections & Amplifications
An earlier version of this article included claims by the person who identified himself as Sam Bacile that he is an Israeli-American and that he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to fund the film. Those claims weren’t confirmed and should not have been included in the article. In addition, the article has been updated to note that the name used by the person appears to be a pseudonym, based on subsequent reporting.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444017504577645681057498266.html

...NPR appeared to be the only one, or one of a very few who picked up the Jewish story from the WSJ beginning with “according to the Journal”, they then changed when WSJ made their correction a couple of hrs later BUT (the damage was done) the link to their AP source isn’t working so can’t find the article - later still in their ongoing reports - NPR mentions it yet again by pointing to the WSJ - stating that “Bacile repeated what he told the Journal to the AP”...
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/09/12/161003427/what-we-know-about-sam-bacile-the-man-behind-the-muhammad-movie

Both NPR and the NYTimes spell it Bacile.

Would be interested to discover which medium initiated the story first as it really ignited the fuel - not that it takes much.

September 15th - 5:05 pm

“He took sharp issue with the statements of the deputy interior minister, Wanis Al-Sharif, who has blamed both Gaddafi loyalists for the attack and criticized U.S. security guards who he said had inflamed demonstrators by firing at them. Magarief says pro-Gaddafi elements were not involved in either the attack on the consulate or later on another building a mile away where consulate staff sought safety. But U.S. intelligence sources aren’t convinced that an al Qaeda–affiliated group was behind the attack. “You have to draw a distinction between al Qaeda aligned or sympathetic and an actual affiliate,” says a U.S. official reached by email.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/15/despite-arrests-in-consulate-attack-confusion-persists-in-libya.html

Wanis Al-Sharif was fired a few days later...think the 18th. One wonders why they’re so emphatic it wasn’t any of Qaddafi’ ex-military. They’re some of the few, who could have been skilled enough in training, to have pulled off such a sophisicated attack.

Just found this EXCELLENT article on the blame the Jews, unfortunately it doesn’t say who first published the claim:

Blaming the Jews: Old Wine in a New Bottle

“Admittedly, I’m a bit touchy about false reports that Jews are involved in sinister activities, like the Wall Street Journal and Associated Press reports that a Jewish real-estate developer in California, having raised five million dollars from “more than 100 Jewish donors,” created the anti-Islam video that touched off riots throughout the Arab world and became the pretense for killing American diplomats in Libya. A cursory knowledge of history, conspiracy theories, and stereotyping — from international banking conspiracies to the Holocaust and its denial to present-day hate groups — can make you feel that way. But normally responsible sources like the Journal and the AP needn’t play into the hands of reactionaries, as they did in the initial reports that Jews were at the bottom of the worldwide furor.”...
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2012/09/20/blaming-the-jews-old-wine-in-a-new-bottle/

Good initial report on the background:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/world/middleeast/attack-by-fringe-group-highlights-the-problem-of-libya-militias.html?pagewanted=all


819 posted on 10/13/2012 4:13:42 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: bronxville

Posted earlier:

Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:45:17 PM · 62 of 62
MestaMachine to combat_boots

You have to start at the start. First you need a ‘reason’. The film maker is/was an fbi snitch. They fully intended to blame Israel for inciting muslim riots, hence the very first thing we heard was that the film maker was a billionaire Israeli Jew. We WEREN’T supposed to find him. SOMEONE passed that vid to the ‘cleric’ in Egypt. The cover was set. and had things gone as planned, Israel would have been blamed not only for the riots, but for Stevens’ death.
Stevens would be gone. The state department and the administration would have an excuse to further isolate Israel and back islamics.
al qaeda would have its pound of flesh. Weapons would get to the syrians. Everybody happy.
When that didn’t work, Plan B, film maker became a vengeful Coptic Christian from Egypt.

Q. Why did this unravel the way it did?
A. Because they did not figure on Walid Shoebat knowing who this guy was.

There was no Plan C. And people cared enough to dig and dig. Now they have no way out. Looks like the ax is going to fall on Christine Lamb, but I don’t think that will work either because NOW we know Petraeus is involved up to his eyeballs

AND don’t forget, these are the same players involved in Fast and Furious...arming our enemies to the south


821 posted on 10/13/2012 4:44:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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