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Biological Mom Kept From Child in Lesbian Legal Case
Yahoo news ^ | 1/4/2012 | SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES

Posted on 01/05/2012 6:36:12 AM PST by Former Fetus

Tina's biological daughter turned 8 this week, but she has not seen the girl since Dec. 22, 2008, because of a custody fight with her former lesbian partner. The partner is unrelated to the child, but gave birth to her.

"I thought I'd have her back on her birthday," said Tina, a law enforcement officer, whose name was never on the birth certificate and who has been denied parenting rights under Florida state law.

For 11 years, the Brevard County couple forged a committed relationship, living together, sharing their finances and raising a daughter. Tina's egg was fertilized with donor sperm and implanted in her partner's womb.

But when their romance fell apart when the child was 2, the Florida courts had to decide, who is the legal parent, the biological mother or the birth mother who carried the unrelated child for nine months in her womb?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: lesbian; surrogatemom
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Wow! It seems to me that Paul had hit the nail on the head.

1 posted on 01/05/2012 6:36:23 AM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

I do not envy the courts in this case. That’s a tough decision. One woman provided the egg, the other provided blood and nourishment and gave birth. I might have sided with the birth mother too. I don’t know.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 6:42:33 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Former Fetus

Clear cut case. The bio-mom donated her eggs to the other woman. The other woman is the legal mother of the child conceived from donated eggs.

To decide otherwise would invite chaos as women who donated eggs to infertile couples could declare custody of children not born to them.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:07 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Former Fetus
No sympathy from me...

How many men have been kept from their biological children? Split up a lezzie relationship and the court has to determine which one is more butch so they can shaft her.

4 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:48 AM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Former Fetus
For 11 years, the Brevard County couple forged a committed relationship, living together, sharing their finances and raising a daughter. Tina's egg was fertilized with donor sperm and implanted in her partner's womb.

Gawd how complicated these people make their lives, and we all have to suffer for it.

5 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:54 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I think the courts made the best decision, the ‘birth mother’ gets custody, not the ‘donor’. Imagine if all egg donors could now claim custodial rights to children they had provided eggs for..........


6 posted on 01/05/2012 6:48:32 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Onelifetogive
Exactly...just another example of “be careful what you wish for”...

Welcome to reality be-ich....

She should be force to provide child support as well....

7 posted on 01/05/2012 6:48:50 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I do not envy the courts in this case. That’s a tough decision.

Seems simple enough. If we're supposed to believe that "Heahter has two Mommies" then no matter which one gets custody, Heather stays with Mommie.

8 posted on 01/05/2012 6:49:53 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Former Fetus

Freak show. American culture is under assault from all sides.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 6:57:35 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Former Fetus

WOW! Describes the world we’re living in.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 6:58:48 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Former Fetus
Good post. Perhaps they could settle it the way Soloman did.

Along with your post, my grandson tells me the girls in school are horrible. No such thing as learning to be a lady. They now take pride is being Nasty.

11 posted on 01/05/2012 7:00:59 AM PST by annieokie
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Human eggs and sperm are soon to be fungible commodities traded on the exchange.

No price too high or ethics too low - for buyers and sellers.

Have we come this far? Yup - this is where we are.

Pray for all those children who have been, and are yet to be ‘produced’.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 7:05:16 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: Reddy

the womb mother may have the girl for now but someday she’ll come looking for her biological mother

as Mom of an adoptee, I know

Bio Mom must be really screwed up for the courts to not have at least given her visitation, aka “daddy” privilgegs


13 posted on 01/05/2012 7:39:11 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: Former Fetus

The abnormal acquisition of offspring, (similar to Michael Jackson’s) is nothing but flagrant human trafficing.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 7:47:59 AM PST by rhoda_penmark
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15 posted on 01/05/2012 8:06:52 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Former Fetus
Feel sorry for the kid. This was bound to happen (and probably has more times than we've heard about).

So is one woman a "donor" or was the other woman a "surrogate"?

16 posted on 01/05/2012 8:30:25 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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You know, it occurs to me, they should let Hollywood write the ending to this.

They've been encouraging stuff like this for years and their TV dramas generally hand-wave this stuff away, as if to say, oh, it won't be a problem, we'll all be reasonable and besides that one is evil and will die in 23 minutes anyway.

My use of the word "surrogate" reminded on one show where they went to court because the surrogate changed her mind and wanted to abort the baby. The judge at first cited "roe v wade" and was challenged by the contract that the woman voluntarily entered into, followed by a half hour of "gripping drama" and then they hand-waved the whole thing citing "roe v wade" again.

17 posted on 01/05/2012 8:33:57 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: silverleaf

I was thinking the same thing, but didn’t post it. The child will one day search for the bio mom, and may not be happy that the birth mom kept her from bio mom.

Sad that they couldn’t work it out for the child’s sake.


18 posted on 01/05/2012 8:50:19 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Actually, there is case law on this point, with surrogate mothers, and the courts have generally found that the biological mother wins over a surrogate mother.

Whether it is different here because the surrogate had not contracted to give up the child or not is a legal matter in and of itself, but the biological question does seem to favor the actual biological parents, not the vessel that carried the baby to term.


19 posted on 01/05/2012 8:55:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rhoda_penmark

What’s “abnormal” about an egg being fertilized by a sperm? Yes, it was done in vitro, but that doesn’t mean that it’s abnormal. Atypical, yes.

There is nothing wrong with IVF but in the wrong hands it can result in tragedy, just as we see here. These two women had no business creating this child to purposely doom her to life without a father.

Blaming IVF for this mess is like blaming guns when criminals use them.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 8:57:04 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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