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Jim Robinson: Taking stock of our dwindling conservative inventory
Jan 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Windflier
I speak English which is WHY I have trouble understanding you.

Everything you say, you say you didn't say.

661 posted on 01/06/2012 7:36:09 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: massatoosits
I live conservatism as opposed to mouthing it. And i am practical when times demand it.

That's just mealy-mouth bs. Either you've got core convictions, or you don't. You stand for something, or you don't.

When is it practical to abandon your principles? When you're trying to win an election? When you're trying to smooth down the feathers of the other side in the legislature? When you're trying to ensure favorable treatment for your business interests after you leave office? When you're trying to be all things to all people? When?

Mitt Romney is a worthless, spineless flip-flopping liberal, who has broken faith with us and everything we stand for. He can go straight to hell, and you can tag along if you're trying to apologize for his transgressions on Free Republic.

662 posted on 01/06/2012 7:41:15 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Since you speak for FR I feel compelled to bow down before you. And perhaps some day we can laugh about all this after we have turned this nightmare around.
From a man you do not know, but damn well need..

Massatoosits


663 posted on 01/06/2012 7:52:08 PM PST by massatoosits
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To: Vendome

Yeah, I’ll go along with Newt. I think he could talk rings around Obama in a debate.


664 posted on 01/06/2012 11:04:33 PM PST by dstarr (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: bopdowah

Agreed. Give Obama a teleprompter and Newt would still talk circles around him in a debate.


665 posted on 01/06/2012 11:09:29 PM PST by dstarr (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: dstarr

I might have missed this if it was already posted - If so, apologies, but there is video in a few speeches Newt made seriously saying he’s spot him the Teleprompter for the debates.Said “Wouldn’t you want one if you had to defend Obamacare?” ;)


666 posted on 01/06/2012 11:56:50 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: Jim Robinson

We’re in a bad spot, all right. I pray that it’s not irreversible.

What concerns me is the so-called TEA Party Republicans who are throwing their collective weight behind Romney.

Don’t get me wrong...I think there are those in the House who are doing all that they can to stop this insanity. But, the elitists are killing us. Just look what McConnell did to Boehner just before Christmas.

And, now...Obama wants a year extension to the payroll amnesty, and just who tried to get that through before now? The House did. Shame on somebody for letting the narrative become so distorted.

Not to mention the total destruction by those in our party of the conservatives who are in the race.

It’s a total shame.


667 posted on 01/07/2012 12:06:20 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: Bobalu

But didn’t Newtie say he liked FDR? Newt’s a progressive smooth talker. Hopefully he continues to implode and a real conservative can get a chance... like Rick Perry.


668 posted on 01/07/2012 1:07:31 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: BurningOak

“I know its a dead horse, but Palin not running was a sad loss for us and the nation.”

Amen to that. If things get bad enough, and the nomination process fails us, maybe she still will.


669 posted on 01/07/2012 1:31:40 AM PST by COgamer
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I don't like Romney either, but PLEASE don't help re-elect Obama by not voting for him if he's the candidate. I'd vote for Mickey Mouse if he has the "R" behind his name.

It's all up to us whether Obama is re-elected.

The media will DESTROY all the others until all that's left is Romney, and then they, and we conservatives will DESTROY him and VOILA! we have Obama again.....is that what we want?? I don't think so.

670 posted on 01/07/2012 3:24:41 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not building the fence cedes sovereignty. A few acres of land for a secure border is well worth it, but then I not a illegal coddler and am completely heartless especially by Texas standards. Texas ‘bidness’ men want an open border with plenty of cheap Mexican labor and ‘free’ trade initiatives so handsomely reward those politicians who keep the border unsecured.


671 posted on 01/07/2012 3:29:07 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Jim Robinson
Conservatives are going to have to grow up and face political reality if we are going to keep Romney from getting the nomination.

Only Newt can match Romney and beat Obama.

672 posted on 01/07/2012 4:24:18 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: theDentist

Why give so much power to the liberal media if you have done research and due diligence on all of the candidates and know where Huntsman stands on the issues ? Jon is hugely more conservative than Newt but having crossover appeal because Independent voters like your style is why Gingrich will never beat Obama and Huntsman would cream him in a general election.

Utah was #1 in job growth while Mass. was #47. Romney didn’t run for re-election and left office as one of the most unpopular governors in the country. Huntsman was re-elected in a landslide and had an 80+% approval rating. Huntsman got health care reform w/o a mandate. He expanded school choice. He eliminated loopholes. He was, like Romney, CEO of a Fortune 500 company. But, Huntsman has foreign policy experience and a lot of it.


673 posted on 01/07/2012 4:45:37 AM PST by erlayman
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To: bopdowah
Newt has DC experience, executive ability, and his silver tongue is razor sharp.

Correct! And I agree with all that you said when it comes down to the time any GOP candidate faces Obama. When the debates take place between Obama and whoever is the Republican selected our guy better be able to hold his own. That is what will count to most Americans who don't really follow politics, or have don't any serious interest in a candidates background.

One of Obama's main traits that gave him the election was that he was able to win over voters mostly because of his sharp tongue, his quick quips - basically, his ridicule tactics. In the debates he made people laugh at McCain, who looked like the slow, dull, old guy who couldn't think on his feet. Obama is not that smart, and he is lazy, and he had no experience...but he was and is an arrogant flame-thrower who then and now appeals to his base by being continually critical and caustic with an air of superiority and a snide, sickening smile and chuckle.

The GOP candidate HAS to be able to fend off/put down those sarcastic comments Obama makes and will make against any opponent. Unfortunately, with the type of supporters Obama appeals to, all that is important to them is seeing Obama "bi*ch slap" an opponent, like some hyped-up, gang member on a street corner.

Our country is being run by someone who is not good at anything except being good at ridicule (which is so typical of a narcissistic person who has no capabilities of his own). He can only make himself look good by making others the target of his zingers. For those who vote based on that type of performance there is only one - Newt Gingrich - who can match Obama in a debate.

We all know that Gingrich is far superior to Obama in leadership skills, knowledge of world affairs, business and commerce, and an understanding of our Republic and American principles. But when those debates are televised if the GOP candidate can't return and deflect Obama's quips and make a clever comment and sound bite that will resonate with people who want entertainment...then we are lost, and those people on the fence will vote for Obama again. I don't see anyone capable of sparring with and scarring the Obama image except Newt. Unfortunately , no matter how well qualified our candidate is, what will impress most of the public who don't do any research and who cast their votes based mainly on the face-to-face sparring of the debates will be the deciding factor.

Newt has the only ability to quickly and cleverly respond to the sharp tongued wisecracks and tactics of the kid in the White House who only knows how to perform for audiences. Obama debates and campaigns like a street-fighter. He is the bully who picks on anyone more intelligent and qualified than himself in order to deflect anyone's thoughts that he is really a shallow, absolute con-artist who would have made a better commedian or clown than a politician and, certainly, a president.

674 posted on 01/07/2012 5:48:14 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: CitizenM

The man is supremely unlikeable, nasty, arrogant, on top of being a sore loser, smarty-pants elitist, and that will come out in the debates, should he be nominated. Game over. Americans might have serious concerns about Obama’s leadership potential but they need to like their presidents and despite the policies, remain loyal to the president as a good guy on a personal level. Newt ... This is a fool’s game.

Which is why it would be very difficult for Obama to criticize Huntsman in the way that some may see as necessary or argue that he will not lead the country in the right direction since it was Obama himself who appointed him to perhaps the most important diplomatic position in US foreign policy. It neutralizes his preferred campaign tactic of negative character assassination like nothing else. Obama’s team knew the danger Huntsman could bring to a second term and clearly wanted him otherwise occupied.

So I still don’t know how you get around Huntsman as the best candidate. He is conservative but doesn’t turn off independent voters. He has the right proposals, policy, record and temperament to be president. Hopefully voters in these early starts are starting to take a hard look at what they are about to do.


675 posted on 01/07/2012 6:55:04 AM PST by erlayman
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To: erlayman

Well, I’ll give him another look. I grew up in People’s Republic of Massatwochits and over the years I learned that the Globe only supports liberal politicians. Maybe the Globe is playing the psychological bait-and-switch, but I just don’t like the idea of the Globe endorsing him, of WH officials “anonymously” telling conservative media that Huntsman scares them...


676 posted on 01/07/2012 8:24:15 AM PST by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

I’m not saying it is his biggest selling point, but perhaps the Globe is ready to ditch Obama with a candidate that gives them that loving feeling of 2008 and none of the downside. Huntsman has also been endorsed by more New Hampshire papers than any candidate. Reporters are only working off shared information in the public domain and his actual governing record is 90% free of liberal, or even moderate, programs and causes.


677 posted on 01/07/2012 8:55:32 AM PST by erlayman
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To: AlanGreenSpam; Presbyterian Reporter
AGS asks PR: So you’re saying a 50% bad candidate is worse than a 100% evil thug? Please explain yourself as I don’t find this logical.

So you're saying Romney is a 50% conservative? The man has a record confirming that he is FOR: government-controlled health care, onerous regulation on individuals and industry to "save the planet" in the name of global warming, activist judges, the gay "rights" agenda, cheap and easy tax-payer-funded abortions, and using government to "solve" any and every kind of problem.

Personally, I think a REPUBLICAN who advances all that crap is more dangerous than a Democrat who advances all that crap; the only thing WORSE about the whole situation is that God only knows how many conservatives, in the biggest coup liberalism and statism has ever taken on Americans, are on the verge of voting FOR all the things they stand against.

Your thinking that Romney is a "50% candidate" is bad logic.

678 posted on 01/07/2012 9:03:37 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Jim Robinson

In spite of your preferences and bias against Romney, IMHO there are a lot of us lurkers who are convinced that Romney is the only one who can beat Obama. Huntsman acts like a Democrat, Paul is senile and left of Obama, Newt has way too much baggage, Perry can’t remember what he’s doing, and Rick has no executive experience. We already tried that with Obama and look what that got us.

I think you black listed the wrong candidate, and you wonder why your numbers are dropping? Obama must be replaced, and everything he stands for.


679 posted on 01/07/2012 9:05:58 AM PST by UncommonJudge (Captions on for the hearing impaired.)
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To: Kartographer

What an ugly generalization to make about Texans, which includes me. I don’t want to be pinged by someone who believes something like that about me. So please remove me from your preparedness ping list.


680 posted on 01/07/2012 9:44:40 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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