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Perry Champions Conservative Tea Party Mantle To Shrink Gov And Spark Jobs
The Cypress Times ^ | Jan 8, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on 01/08/2012 11:24:54 AM PST by Innovative

"We need to be focusing on how do we create the environment in this country where the entrepreneurs know that they can risk their capital, have a chance to have a return on the investment and create the jobs out there so people can have the dignity to take care of their families," said Gov. Perry. "That's what Americans are looking for. I've done that for the last 11 years in the state of Texas and have the executive governing experience that no one else up here on this stage has."

Gov. Perry has the strongest record of job creation of all the candidates, having established a pro-business, pro-jobs and pro-innovation environment in the state of Texas. Under Gov. Perry, Texas has created more than one million net new jobs and ranked first in job creation. Under President Obama, America has lost two million jobs.

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Republicans need to take a serious second look at Rick Perry, the only one who is a solid conservative and has a solid record of job creation, who can contrast his record with Obama's -- none of the other GOP candidates can do that.
1 posted on 01/08/2012 11:25:02 AM PST by Innovative
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To: shield

Perry ping


2 posted on 01/08/2012 11:25:59 AM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Innovative

OK but they need to look at what he does, not what he says.

When one of my fellow Texans who, having resided in Texas for over twenty years, on and off, within the military, had to pay out of state tuition for his daughter as they didn’t meet a residence requirement - a twenty five year active duty man.

Illegal aliens are placed ahead of this family for in state tuition rates by Perry’s approval.

Start there then search for his actions to coincide with his rhetoric.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 11:33:03 AM PST by stanne
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To: Innovative
Two MAJOR problems with Perry.

1) His illegal immigration stance which could alter our culture and our national sucurity.

2) His electibility. Obviously if he cannot move to the top of the GOP ticket he would never be able to move up in the general election.

That being said, I like Rick Perry a lot and wished he had different views on illegals. He is indeed conservative on most other issues.

Personally, I think his staying in the race at this point only helps Romney and Romney represents "liberalism". So, in a nutshell, Rick Perry is helping to advance liberalism in the GOP by accident.

4 posted on 01/08/2012 11:36:31 AM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Innovative

He’s all in on SC, where he’ currently registering single digits with more than one poll. A bad showing there ends it.....or should. If he stays after that, he’s officially a stalking horse.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 11:44:27 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Innovative
Republicans need to take a serious second look at Rick Perry

I'm not a Republican, I'm too conservative for that, however I have looked at him....and Gingrich....and Santorum.

I'll vote for any of these three that show the best opportunity to beat Romney and 0bama.

All three are good.

6 posted on 01/08/2012 11:44:46 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Innovative
 Obama surf
 Obama surfing
Obama will not rest until everyone has a job

Why worry... Kenyan King Hussien is going to work so hard to make sure we all have jobs...
The MSM just boldly proclaimed that the unemployment crisis is almost cured!

7 posted on 01/08/2012 11:46:18 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: stanne
If he resided in Texas for 20 years, then I'm sure the daughter met the 3 year residency requirement so this doesn't make sense.

But he didn't reside CONTINUOUSLY apparently. So what does on and off mean??

8 posted on 01/08/2012 11:47:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Bon mots
The MSM just boldly proclaimed that the unemployment crisis is almost cured!

They can proclaim it however they can't make us feel it when it isn't true.

That won't work, however stealing the election via ACORN et al IS effective.

9 posted on 01/08/2012 11:52:42 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: tsowellfan
1) His illegal immigration stance which could alter our culture and our national sucurity.

I don't think you really know what his stance on immigration is or isn't. Perry has probably done more for border security than any elected official in the last 5 decades.

Hopefully some day some of these US educated illegals will head back to Mexico and make a positive change in the own country. Since the federal government will not allow states to take a hands on approach what other choices does any state government have?

10 posted on 01/08/2012 11:53:51 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jonrick46; deepbluesea; TexMom7; potlatch; SunkenCiv; wolfcreek; BuckeyeTexan; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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11 posted on 01/08/2012 11:57:32 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Innovative

I like Perry in that when he is elected he will be determined to eliminate the agency that he forgot during the debate. I don’t think any other candidate will talk about eliminating agencies because they have in laws, friends, etc. that they have hooked up working there which is a reprehensible reason.


12 posted on 01/08/2012 11:59:42 AM PST by RushingWater
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Since the federal government will not allow states to take a hands on approach what other choices does any state government have?

The only hands on approach the states should have if they choose to do so are those being attempted by the state of Arizona which is to enforce the federal laws.

US Border patrol is the responsibility of the Federal Government and NOT the states.

Perry has probably done more for border security than any elected official

Really! Including Sheriff Joe. How about elected officials in Arizona? How about Tancredo? JD Hayworth?

13 posted on 01/08/2012 12:01:29 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Hopefully some day some of these US educated illegals will head back to Mexico and make a positive change in the own country.

Well, they're going the wrong way. They're flooding my snowy state here in New England.

It's not up to the United States to educate the population of other nations.

Besides, with pro-communist NRA controling our school systems if they did go back they'd be voting for their own version of Hugo Chavez and making international relations even worse between our nation and theirs.

14 posted on 01/08/2012 12:09:38 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Correction: Besides, with pro-communist NEA controlling our school systems if they did go back they'd be voting for their own version of Hugo Chavez and making international relations even worse between our nation and theirs.
15 posted on 01/08/2012 12:11:30 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Innovative
He's rolling.

Rick Perry: Let’s Put Troops Back In Iraq ["I would send troops back into Iraq"]

....."PERRY: I -- I think we start talking with the Iraqi individuals there. The idea that we allow the Iranians to come back into Iraq and take over that country, with all of the treasure, both in blood and money, that we have spent in Iraq, because this president wants to kowtow to his liberal, leftist base and move out those men and women. He could have renegotiated that timeframe.

I think it is a huge error for us. We’re going to see Iran, in my opinion, move back in at literally the speed of light. They’re going to move back in, and all of the work that we’ve done, every young man that has lost his life in that country will have been for nothing because we’ve got a president that does not understand what’s going on in that region."

Rick Perry calls Obama 'a socialist' in GOP debate

ANDY HILLER:

10:06:46:00 Governor Perry, your party’s last nominee, John McCain, wrote in the Washington Post in an Op-ed about a year ago, his words, “I disagree with many of the president’s policies, but I believe he is a patriot sincerely intent on using his time in office to advance our country’s cause. I reject accusations that his policies and belief make him unworthy to lead America or opposed to its founding ideals.” Agree?

RICK PERRY:

10:07:13:00 I make a very proud statement and of fact that— we have a president that’s a socialist. I don’t think our founding fathers wanted America to be a socialist country. So I disagree with that— premise that— somehow or another that— President Obama reflects our founding fathers. He doesn’t. He talks about having a more powerful, more centralized, more consuming and costly federal government. I am a tenth amendment believing governor. I truly believe that we need a president that respects the tenth amendment, that pushes back to the states. Whether it’s how to deliver— education, how to deliver health care, how to do our— environmental regulations. The states will considerably do a better job than a one-size-fits-all Washington, D.C., led by this president."

16 posted on 01/08/2012 12:32:10 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tsowellfan

Sheriff Joe endorsed Rick Perry and is heading his AZ campaign.

They are both very active on the border security front. He doesn’t have to one up Sheriff Joe...I’d call that a red herring, or a straw man, if you will.

In terms of the others you mentioned, they lack the executive position that Governor Perry has and in a state with such a long, difficult border with Mexico. He is hands on with the border security issue.

That isn’t the others’ fault, it’s just a fact of life that makes it difficult to compare them.


17 posted on 01/08/2012 12:35:01 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: stanne; Innovative

Your post makes no sense.


18 posted on 01/08/2012 12:46:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Perry has probably done more for border security than any elected official in the last 5 decades.

Even with the Sheriff's support, some still try to sink Perry with the immigration issue. It appears they are not really concerned about immigration, but are using it to either support Ron Paul or Romney.

19 posted on 01/08/2012 12:49:06 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: txrangerette
That isn’t the others’ fault, it’s just a fact of life

You're talking as if Perry is a close second to Romney in the polls.

Being soft on illegals already in the United States is just one problem Perry has. The other is that he's number 5 (or second to last) in the GOP polls and unlikely he's going to win. The only thing Perry is doing at this point is helping Romney secure the nomination.

Romney 30%

Gingrich 23%

Santorum 19%

Paul 9%

Perry 5%

20 posted on 01/08/2012 1:00:57 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
It appears they are not really concerned about immigration, but are using it to either support Ron Paul or Romney.

The facts do not support your statement. At this point, if anybody is helping Romney it would be those keeping the 5% Perry has from going to the top conservative who needs the 5% to beat Romney

Romney 30%

Gingrich 23%

Santorum 19%

Paul 9%

Perry 5%

I like Perry (but he's not strong enough on illegals for me to support him in the primaries). Now you look at these numbers and tell me just who is helping Romney???

21 posted on 01/08/2012 1:07:19 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Innovative

Perry should’ve dropped out after IA like he was initially going to do.


22 posted on 01/08/2012 1:53:20 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues; tsowellfan

Perry stated that those who oppose reduced tuition have no heart. It is listed at one site as one of the most remembered quotes of 2011.


23 posted on 01/08/2012 2:05:49 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: tsowellfan
Now you look at these numbers and tell me just who is helping Romney???

I'm guessing if you could find out who was helping Lisa Murkowski, you'd pretty much have your answer. Answers to those kinds of questions have proven to be elusive.

24 posted on 01/08/2012 2:11:16 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: apocalypto

It’s a shame that the offended don’t understand the issue.


25 posted on 01/08/2012 2:23:38 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: stanne

BS


26 posted on 01/08/2012 2:28:02 PM PST by magritte
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To: stanne

He is on record supporting this. And it cost him a drop in polls.


27 posted on 01/08/2012 2:52:19 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: stanne
When one of my fellow Texans who, having resided in Texas for over twenty years, on and off, within the military, had to pay out of state tuition for his daughter as they didn’t meet a residence requirement - a twenty five year active duty man.

Well, what state exactly was your friend a 'resident' of anyway? Was it TX? On tax day, did he file TX income tax forms? Even if he was in TX based on military service, it was always his option to change his residency legally to TX...so why didn't he?

Usually, military personnel choose their state of residence based on what costs them less in taxes...i.e., they can maintain their state of residence from when they entered the service if it is advantageous from a tax standpoint...or they can switch.

But I don't see why your friend's plight in paying for his kid's college is a mark against Perry if he wasn't a TX resident.

28 posted on 01/08/2012 3:17:19 PM PST by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Perry torpedoed his own campaign by doubling down on this issue. Perry has no one else to blame but himself.

I’m sorry but if he does not understand this fundamental issue, then he will not get conservative support.

It’s not just me saying it. Look at where he sits in most of the polls. 5% on average.... They is not going to get it. Like I said he torpedoed his own campaign with this I’m going to reward the illegals behavior. Sorry that does not fly for the average conservative. Perry can explain himself to the moon and you will never convince most conservatives.


29 posted on 01/08/2012 4:09:40 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: FReepers




30 posted on 01/08/2012 4:18:49 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Innovative

Mr. TTC? Are you kidding?


31 posted on 01/08/2012 5:20:17 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: stanne
Illegal aliens are placed ahead of this family for in state tuition rates by Perry’s approval.

I was placed in the same boat by those fools because of my time in the military and working oversea's . Behind the illegals, you don't qualify, gringo!

32 posted on 01/08/2012 5:22:34 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: shield

You need to take down that BS poster. Perry supports lower taxes? That is BS! He (along with State Comptroller Susan Combs) has raised property taxes in my county two years in a row, essentially doubling property taxes in this county.


33 posted on 01/08/2012 5:27:52 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: Ethrane

Usually, military personnel choose their state of residence based on what costs them less in taxes...i.e., they can maintain their state of residence from when they entered the service if it is advantageous from a tax standpoint...or they can switch.
But I don’t see why your friend’s plight in paying for his kid’s college is a mark against Perry if he wasn’t a TX resident.
__________________________________________________________

I know. If he had been smart enough to be an illegal alien instead of having served his country for 25 years, he’d have been able to skip all of that stinkin’ paperwork and just pay thousands of dollars less, thanks to Perry.

Go ahead and vote for him, I don’t care, but I won’t pretend that, given this example as well as the view from the ground, here in TX, that Perry is tough on illegal immigration.


34 posted on 01/08/2012 5:53:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Military dependents have pretty loose residency requirements - the parents must never have declared themselves Texas residents at all if the child didn’t qualify.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/ED/htm/ED.54.htm


35 posted on 01/08/2012 6:05:56 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Sarajevo

The State does not impose property taxes. That’s your local school district, county and city.

No wonder they did, since people like you don’t pay attention to the School Board, the City Council, the County Commissioners. You are responsible for knowing this. You are responsible for holding the wrong people to account.


36 posted on 01/08/2012 6:13:57 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Sarajevo

You obviously did not maintain Texas as your state of residency during your time in the military - why is that?

If you had, you’d have qualified for instate tuition.


37 posted on 01/08/2012 6:17:19 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: smoothsailing

Your post makes no sense.

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Military 101 - You get into the military at age 18 or 22, or so, depending on status, ROTC, Academy, whatever.

You get stationed somewhere in or out of the US at a base, most likely. Every 18 months to 3 years, or so, you have a change of station for which you move to, most often, a different state or country, and you reside in that place, keeping your permanent (official) residence the state from which you came, or another state, depending on your preference and other factors, there are certain rules and regulations. You don’t change your permanent residence every time you move.

When you retire, or otherwise get out of the military, and you then live in a state that is not the same as your permanent residence, you then must change the state of your permanent residence to the one in which you reside.

So, you can actually live in a particular state for many years, but if you apply for official residency later than a certain amount of time before applying for in state tuition rates (for Texas, I thought it was two years, but am told here, it is three), then you and your family members do not qualify for in state tuition rates, at least not right away.

However, if you come into the state from another country illegally, and I am guessing this does not apply to just any old country, then, under current laws, over which this Governor presides, then you have no rules; you get in state tuition rates for you and your family.

This fact, when recently revealed in the primary, (look at the responses to my post #3) cost Perry much support. THe injustice is apparent to many, he, however, seemed surprised that it would gall anyone. And that in itself should portray the atmosphere in Austin.

How did I do with that explanation?


38 posted on 01/08/2012 6:32:10 PM PST by stanne
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To: Sacajaweau; Ethrane

See my post #38


39 posted on 01/08/2012 6:36:16 PM PST by stanne
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To: hocndoc

Military dependents have pretty loose residency requirements - the parents must never have declared themselves Texas residents at all if the child didn’t qualify.

_________________________________________________________

You are correct.

They were very silly. THey should have known three years prior that he was going to retire; that they were going to stay in Tx; and that their child was going to go to school in Tx.

Those are some of the many decisions which the miltary members face routinely. The chances they take with their finances are some of the challenges they face, and they are able an willing.

Illegal aliens in Tx, however have this one taeken care of for them.

They have a big advantage over military members in this regard.

Many see that as a problem. Perry does not. He says we are heartless over it.

OK.


40 posted on 01/08/2012 6:46:32 PM PST by stanne
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To: Innovative

One article said Perry would handily win the TX primary on April 3 if he were still in the race then, but I wonder.


41 posted on 01/08/2012 6:47:46 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Sarajevo

The governor and comptroller cannot raise state property taxes in TX because there are no state property taxes. But there are hefty school district property taxes and also such taxes for cities and counties, usually more for the city than the county. People in TX often vote high taxes on themselves, particularly in liberal areas.


42 posted on 01/08/2012 6:51:48 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: tsowellfan
Really! Including Sheriff Joe. How about elected officials in Arizona? How about Tancredo? JD Hayworth?

On the subject of Tancredo and Hayworth...what exactly did they do to bolster border security? Talk and legislation sure didn't reduce the number of illegals crossing the border. Has New Mexico or AZ deployed State Troopers to the border? Perry has done that. Have they deployed drones to the border to lower the level of border crossings? Perry and the Republic of Texas has done that. And Sheriff Joe...I'm a big supporter of Sheriff Joe but his actions are directed to those that have already crossed the border. His actions are not border control.

43 posted on 01/08/2012 7:09:51 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: stanne
How did I do with that explanation?

I'm sure you did your best.

44 posted on 01/08/2012 7:46:58 PM PST by smoothsailing ((www.FrankWuterich,com))
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To: smoothsailing

Well, support him then.


45 posted on 01/08/2012 8:52:14 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

What does 3 years have to do with your friends? Military and dependents only need 6 months of declared residency if there was a year of residency in the past. If there wasn’t a year in the past, one year is required before they become resident.

Since Texas doesn’t have an income tax, I don’t understand why anyone here wouldn’t declare themselves a resident, especially if they had children who were soon to be in college.

The only thing that Governor Perry commented on was the very narrow exemption from non-resident tuition. The heartless comment came as he was attacked by several of the candidates over the law that only affects 17 or 18 year olds who are brought to the country before they’re 15, who are in our schools due to the Feds’ force on Texas, and who are assimilated in our culture enough to graduate from our high school and are accepted to our colleges.


46 posted on 01/08/2012 8:57:26 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc

Defend him all you can with a lot of words. Perry’s campain died over this issue. It is a loser to many. Obviously, others are fine with it.

Nevertheless, he is not tough on immigration.


47 posted on 01/08/2012 9:54:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: hocndoc
The State does not impose property taxes. That’s your local school district, county and city.

If so, why does the local tax assessor claim that all property taxes in Bandera County were raised by the order of the state comptroller? Sorry, hocndoc, but we have had some bad moves done down here, and a lot of finger pointing goes straight to Austin.

You obviously did not maintain Texas as your state of residency during your time in the military - why is that?

Uh, when you claim a state of residency while in the military, it remains so until the troop changes it. I claimed Texas as my state of residency in 1987, yet in 2002, I was told by a low level bureaucrat that I was not a Texas resident because I was working in Bosnia, i.e. not physically in Texas. SACC even had an issue with my Texas DL, claiming that a number on it meant that I hadn't lived in the state for several years.

I did not qualify for in-state tuition because I never re-enlisted while stationed in Texas.

48 posted on 01/08/2012 10:31:23 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: Theodore R.
The governor and comptroller cannot raise state property taxes in TX because there are no state property taxes.

BULLSH*T. I am hit with a hefty property tax bill this year, and the Bandera County Tax Assessors Office points directly at the state comptrollers office. We have gone through this same argument last year when many in Bandera protested the property tax hikes.

Are you telling me that Bandera Tax Assessors Office is lying?

49 posted on 01/08/2012 10:36:04 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: hocndoc
No wonder they did, since people like you don’t pay attention to the School Board, the City Council, the County Commissioners.

That's a pretty wild assertion there, hockeydoc, considering you don't know me outside of this forum, nor do you know what I have been doing in the past year.

50 posted on 01/08/2012 10:47:32 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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