Skip to comments.Rep. Allen West on the reaction to the Marines incident: “Shut your mouth; war is hell”
Posted on 01/14/2012 6:41:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Candidly, the story of a handful of Marines videotaping themselves urinating on dead Taliban fighters is a subject I’ve feared to broach because it is heart-breaking to think those men so lost their sense of shared humanity — if only for those minutes — as to do what they did. Rep. Allen West has given me a way to write about it, though, by saying it all better than I ever could. In an e-mail to The Weekly Standard, West wrote:
I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.
Without excusing the vulgar, distasteful, disgraceful (insert your adjective here) desecration committed by the Marines themselves, West reminds us that civilians can never fully understand the magnitude of the sacrifices they ask men and women to make on their behalf.
Words of support for the troops are needed now as always, but they’re hardly forthcoming. The Republican presidential candidates, for example, have made no statements of support for the predominantly well-behaved troops as a buttress against the effects on public opinion of the administration’s eager denouncement of the few. William Kristol highlights their silence:
Give me a break. More importantly, give our troops a break. Yes, the Marines who appear to have done what they did should be reprimanded or punished, as they would have been in the normal course of things once their deed came to light. I will even grant that some higher-ups might have felt it prudent to deplore what happened, based on realpolitik considerations of depriving our enemies of excuses to whip up sentiment against us in the region (though Im doubtful the effort to do this isnt more counterproductive than not). But the administrations reaction is over the top. And it smells of cheap self-righteousness and moral posturing from an administration that, to be honest, hasnt devoted a whole lot of time to thanking our troops for what they’ve been doing in very difficult and dangerous circumstances.
Maybe it was too much to expect senior officials to make the common sense points that 1) this incident is not something to get hysterical about, and 2) it needs to be put in the context of the admirable behavior of 99 percent of our troops 99 percent of the time. But aren’t there Republicans around who might want to make this point? I gather, for example, that there are several people running for the Republican presidential nomination. Maybe one of them could say a good word about our troops?
Those who do dare to speak up are promptly attacked for it. Big Journalism’s Dana Loesch describes the backlash she’s received for a few statements she made on her radio program yesterday to the effect that the reaction to the incident has been overblown:
This is nothing but an exercise in situational, exploitative outrage, and it completely proved the point I was making. The phrases defile and desecration popped up in my replies on Twitter every minute or so. If desecration is a concern for progressives, where was their outrage when the remains of over 200 Air Force members were dumped in a landfill? Ive seen more outrage towards our troops over this incident than I have ever seen towards the Taliban themselves whove beheaded soldiers (American and Afghan), raped and tortured women, sent out suicide bombers, and carried out horrific attacks.
The disproportionate anger on the part of progressives is fueled by their dislike of our military. That['s] what this proves. The left is attacking me so they can give the Obama administration a passunlike what they did with Bush and Abu Ghraib. Like it or not, Ill stand up for our troops no matter which president is in charge.
The situation has never called for histrionics, but it has always called for a sober recognition that the reality of war is unfathomable to those who’ve never experienced it, and it is up to us, who remain in comfort while others fight our battles, to sing the praises of those who bear with the unbearable in a brave and noble manner — and to help however we can to restore to those veterans who’ve lost it a deep, abiding conviction in the dignity and worth of the human person.
The left wing democrat and rino communist citizens of America are outraged at military soldiers who do their jobs of killing enemy terrorists than they are at the terrorist major who the DOJ defends for the murder of American soldiers at a military base which the DOJ rats describe as workplace violence.
Of the left wing communists it can truly be said, they call evil good and good evil.
How about a little perspective. These guys had just filled the tallibanners brains with hot led. And people get upset over a little pee?
Allen West is the man!
I agree with LCOL West and I appreciate your position. Hang in there for our troops and don’t let the Bastards beat you down.
I like LTCOL West. I think he has it just about right.
Congratulations to Col West!!!
where are the other conservatives? the Weasels!
Where is Code Pink? Where is John Kerry and “Ghengis” Kahn, now that this is not a Republican President?
My empathy is for these Marines, who got to this point with multiple deployments and watching these Muslim savages kill their friends. Where is the outrage over decimating the military to create endless deployments? where is the outrage that the Va does not have enough services for these young veterans when they come home with the nitemares of WAR??
Reading other threads, I don’t think most readers have the slightest clue as to the severity of the punishment that West is recommending. He’s not calling for a slap on the wrist here.
I appreciate that he is the only one so far defending our troops. All the GOP candidates should be following suit and doing so proudly.
Well said, COL West.
What a man!
View this short video of Col Allen West explaining Islam to a marine. (Start at about 1:35)
We need this man in the new Republican administration.
He is one of the few with guts enough to tell it like it is.
Our elected officials are limp wristed whips who are afraid of Obama and Muslims.
God bless Allen West.
I said almost the same thing as Col West on YT and pissed off a good number of Bleeding Heart Liberal Rag Heads, who couldn’t find their A$$ in a lighted room with both hands.
That is tangential. His point is seeking balance and perspective in media discussions.
Could they have a defense that they were not peeing toward Mecca and they all think they missed the guy that had just tried to blow them up...and didn’t have any idea that one of the rules of engagment was no peeing on the bastard that just tried to kill you..just no peeing toward Mecca. And if the arab’s are offended, bring all our boys/girls/ home yesterday. Fight your own damn fight, if you want freedom fight for it yourself or live as slaves in the 5th centrury, we are done.....
I would give those Marines 1st Freedom Urinary Medals.
They should have done it while the suckers were ALIVE.
This is the ENEMY-people who want to take over the world and plunge it into the Dark Ages. The same people who butcher and burn American bodies after dragging them through the streets.
Just death and befoulment of all things Muslim.