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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Intriguing theory. Isn't the :) in the Alvin Onaka part of the stamp at the very least an an element of an over-the-top eff-u document by a taxpayer-funded (presuming the DOH creation involvement) department? Additionally, the "x" being in place of the "h" in the word "The" of that "stamp" is highly suspect, as far as the "stamp" on a pdf goes. Setting those aside, as my Japanese friends are wont to say, "Lazed Seeru, wa?"

My Knowledge of Japanese extends to just a few words, and none of those are them. :)

The "smiley face" could be an artifact of the stamp. The "x" could as well, but it seems less likely. However, those two quirks seem to be too much to hang an external (to the DOH Hawaii) forgery on. Also I would point out that DOH Hawaii is not asserting the document is fake, which I would expect them to do were it created by a third party.

THEY may have a right to create fake replacement documents, but no one else does, and I don't see them sitting still for it.

I just find the risk involved for all parties to be so much greater if it isn't a legal forgery. The probabilities all stack up in the direction of it being a legal forgery created by DOH Hawaii. That is the simplest explanation which covers everything.

There is also the reluctance of Obama's lawyer to let anyone see the original from Hawaii. I highly suspect there may be something on the back of it which clearly indicates it is a replacement birth document for an adopted child, or some such. A lawyer does not take such efforts to control what can be viewed on a document unless he has some concern about someone discerning something he doesn't want them to see.

That's the other thing. I cannot see a lawyer attaching his credibility (and his possible future as a lawyer) so tightly to a document which he knows to be forged. It would cost him EVERYTHING if it were discovered.

Again, the ONLY sensible explanation is THAT DOCUMENT was created by Hawaii DOH, and it is a LEGAL forgery. (with mistakes.)

155 posted on 01/20/2012 6:25:53 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I know that what Obama posted online is not what the HDOH sent him, unless the HDOH is documentably disobeying the law.

I probably shouldn’t say more than that at this point, but I can assure you that if the HDOH is lawfully certifying their vital records copies (regardless of whether it is an original BC or a supplemental BC lawfully created after an adoption), they know that Obama posted something different than what they sent him - and have deceitfully acted as if he posted what they sent.


163 posted on 01/20/2012 7:05:18 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: DiogenesLamp; butterdezillion; Danae
“Again, the ONLY sensible explanation is THAT DOCUMENT was created by Hawaii DOH, and it is a LEGAL forgery. (with mistakes.)”

Given the lack of submission of actual documents into evidence IMO it is very premature to describe any scenario as “the ONLY sensible explanation.”

IMO it is more probable that the same Obama/Axelrod Chicago counterfeiting operation that produced the forged SFBC also produced the forged LFBC...and they might have even done it (created the pdf) on a PC or Mac in the White House basement.

My suspicion is that having created the forgery in a desperate response to the Trump onslaught they embarked on an elaborate charade of flying Obama’s personal lawyer out to HI supposedly to collect a certified copy but actually only to create the impression that that is what happened or perhaps even to get an HI DOH seal on the forgery. Then when the lawyer returns with the document, Bauer, on his last day as Barry's White House counsel (taxpayer funded) before suddenly resigning to gain attorney client privilege as once again being Barry's personal attorney, Bauer REFUSED to allow Barry to hold the alleged “original” HI LFBC in his own hands. Stinks to high heaven!

Regarding corruption of public officials I recall that the past FIVE IL governors are in federal prison and HI is reported by some to be even more corrupt than IL...and we know what a corrupt communist clown Abercrombie is...and that his initial HI DOH director appointment was terminated suddenly just when proof of Barry's HI birth couldn't be found...and than after the new director arrived...it was found!

180 posted on 01/20/2012 9:14:46 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: DiogenesLamp

“My Knowledge of Japanese extends to just a few words, and none of those are them. :)”

“Lazed Seeru, wa?” is just the way a Japanese person would pronounce “raised seal”. :)


231 posted on 01/20/2012 5:12:41 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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