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Live Thread - NBC News/Tampa Bay Times GOP debate tonight on NBC ^ | 1/23/12 | nate

Posted on 01/23/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009

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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Andrea has the perfect face for radio and the voice for silent movies.

Pray for America

1,541 posted on 01/23/2012 8:46:08 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: xzins

And Romney KNOWS all of that. He’s scum, trying to throw whatever he can against the wall, hoping that some of it will stick in people’s minds, regardless of how baseless the accusations.

I can’t stand liars. (Telling part truths is not truth-telling; it’s call a lie/deceit.)

1,542 posted on 01/23/2012 8:46:32 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: xzins
See this thread:

The Gingrich Ethics Probe (Washington Post compilation of story articles)

1,543 posted on 01/23/2012 8:46:41 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: txhurl

Newt Tweeted Chuck Norris’ endorsement might earn a a cabinet position: Secretary of Attack

Perry could be the Secretary of Southern Border Security and work closely with Chuck Norris on the to make it happen by 2014.

Get to it Texas Rangers!!!

1,544 posted on 01/23/2012 8:47:09 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: nicmarlo
I will stipulate Newt would have proceeded along the lines you indicate were there world enough and time. The takeaway question: will Jeb read the subtext and know to refuse Rove's entreaty later this year.
1,545 posted on 01/23/2012 8:47:45 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Charles: stop worrying about who we, the army, have as our leader. We are our leader, we just need a candidate to carry while we mow down Zero.

Remember November 2010: Grassroots slaughter of rats and rinos. We’re going to do it again and it frankly doesn’t matter which candidate rides us.

Don’t you see? This is what the Founders envisioned and provided for us.

Our ability to tsunami out the dreck AS A PEOPLE. Stop thinking externally, think wolfpack for now.

1,546 posted on 01/23/2012 8:48:25 PM PST by txhurl
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To: ConservativeInPA; Jim Robinson

I was trying so hard to be lady like it was making me but then I thought of Ann Coulter and turning into a shrill shill and that was worse.

1,547 posted on 01/23/2012 8:48:25 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Palladin

Have you lost your freaking mind?

You’ve been here long enough to make me think we are at least the same age and you should still retain a decent memory.

What? Oh, you’ve been suspended for roughing the passer...

1,548 posted on 01/23/2012 8:48:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tcrlaf

Exactly, if you go back and analyze it just about every question asked boils down to “Isn’t the Obama policy right and it’s impossible to do anything else?”

The invisible elephant in the room is not a single question recognizing taht Obama has the country screwed up.

My God there was even a “Don’t we HAVE TO negotiate with the Taliban?” question.

1,549 posted on 01/23/2012 8:49:04 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: RitaOK

“You know, untwist, if the Establishment cuts the legs out from under Newt, by dropping Romney (with whom I believe they are DONE) and they go and bring in Jeb, or Daniels, there will be open warfare in the Republican Party.”

You may be on to something. By NBC saying that Newt won the debate, when they easily could have called it a draw, or even called it for Santorum, with credibility, tells me that they clearing the field for someone new to come in, such as Jeb, Daniels, or Christie. Unfortunately, if they don’t do that really quickly, the base may bond with Newt and it will be game over...and The Establishment will look like total idiots.

1,550 posted on 01/23/2012 8:49:33 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: Williams

Brian Williams cures my insomnia every time.LOL

1,551 posted on 01/23/2012 8:49:35 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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1,552 posted on 01/23/2012 8:50:36 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: All

Tacticslly, Newt is a step and a half ahead of Romney.

Strategically, Gingrich is in a different league.

NBC attempts to neutralize Newt by taking the crowd applause out (thus boring us to death)....Newt switches gears and is accommodating and Presidential...

Both winning the debate with back to back singles and gaining some minor credibility with the conservative element of the Establishment, giving them ammo to stop attempts to bring in a relief pitcher like Daniels.

1,553 posted on 01/23/2012 8:50:36 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary:
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To: gswilder
Almost seems like when someone becomes the frontrunner in the polls, they drop like a rock within weeks.

True! Although it's been the conservative frontrunner who has been taken down time and time again, not the moderate frontrunner (Mitt). Which speaks to how much the establishment wants to promote and protect moderate candidates, those that they view as more media friendly perhaps.

Maybe best to be a close 2nd and rack up enough delegates and fly slightly under the radar LOL. Being a frontrunner is dangerous!

True again! And Santorum looks to have benefited from that tonight, although i don't think he has enough money or organization at this point to really make much headway. He did look good in this debate, i'll give him that. But no one is really gunning for him at this point, for as you say he's "flying under the radar", so that makes it easier to come out looking good. Still, he finally seemed to get the right tone. Assertive and at times forceful without sounding whiny and pompous (at least from the bits i saw of the debate).

In the end, this one probably doesn’t change much.

I hope you're right. I've felt nervous about this debate all day for some reason, and perhaps that caused me to think Gingrich was doing worse than he really did. It was a boring debate. Doubt all that many viewers watched the whole thing. My concern is that many of them may have only watched the beginning where to me Gingrich was at his weakest.

1,554 posted on 01/23/2012 8:50:57 PM PST by Humbug (the media rule the world and they know it....)
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To: xzins

Sounds like they did to Newt in the 90’s what they did to Palin in Alaska with the 100’s of frivilous ankle-biting lawsuits.

However, Newt has gone on to live another day.

As far as being an “influence peddler” — I’d rather Newt’s influence be peddled than some smarmy Democrat/progressive’s influence.

What’s so bad about being influential?

1,555 posted on 01/23/2012 8:51:30 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: prairiebreeze

At the beginning, they were told no applause, cheering, etc.

That’s wrong, IMO. But it’s obvious why NBC did that.

1,556 posted on 01/23/2012 8:52:15 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: 50mm

No wire at hotel...

1,557 posted on 01/23/2012 8:52:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: PhilDragoo

I don’t doubt Newt would have, since he was obviously going down that track....

If Jeb’s got any smarts, he’d better know he ought not.

1,558 posted on 01/23/2012 8:52:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: All

Newt’s campaign motto should be this:


(For all you pro wrestling fans, this was ECW champion Taz’s catch phrase.)

Rack another one up for Newt.....

1,559 posted on 01/23/2012 8:53:21 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: jwalsh07

Santorum was right, that on three of the hot-button issues of the Tea Party, Gingrich was with Romney on the wrong side.

Like TARP. Like the individual mandate.

Unfortunate that Iowa couldn’t count their votes so Santorum didn’t get credit for winning Iowa, and that freepers who could forgive Newt for Dede Scozafosa, cheating on two wives, sitting on a couch with Pelosi, and agreeing with John Kerry about the GOP and global warming, couldn’t forgive Santorum for supporting his fellow republican senator in a primary.

Did Gingrich endorse someone in that 2004 primary?

We probably have no choice but to support Gingrich now, but I’d love to keep Santorum in the race in case Gingrich implodes or screws up. It would be a sad day for conservatives if we chase Santorum out of the race to help Newt and then Newt screws up and we end up stuck with Romney because we chased all the other conservatives out of the race.

1,560 posted on 01/23/2012 8:53:36 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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