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Gingrich Threatens to Skip Debates if Audiences Can’t Participate [another NY Slimes lie]
NYT ^ | Tuesday January 24, 2012 | Gingrich Threatens to Skip Debates if Audiences Can’t Participate

Posted on 01/24/2012 8:21:28 AM PST by Bigtigermike

Newt Gingrich insists his fans will not be silenced.

Mr. Gingrich, a former House speaker, on Tuesday morning threatened not participate in any future debates with audiences that have been instructed to be silent. That was the case on Monday, when Brian Williams of NBC News asked the audience of about 500 people who assembled for a debate in Tampa to hold their applause until the commercial breaks.

In an interview with the morning show “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Gingrich said NBC’s rules amounted to stifling free speech. In what has become a standard line of attack for his anti-establishment campaign, Mr. Gingrich blamed the media for trying to silence a dissenting point of view.

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To: caww

Of course people have the right to cheer on their candidate. That doesn’t mean it’s appropriate in every setting.


261 posted on 01/24/2012 10:49:52 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: ConfidentConservative

“The Media ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALL OF US.”

Says who? Media can spin things anyway they wish (and often do!). There is no constitutional requirement that they even report facts, as long as they do not run afoul of slander or libel.

“When they place rules, they are stifling free speech and representing only those they want to have win. (in this case obama)”

The hosts of debates can place any rules they wish even if in favor of any candidate they wish.

Asking the audience to keep quiet is not unusual in debate-type forums.


262 posted on 01/24/2012 10:50:06 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: southernnorthcarolina

I agree. Have a cozy little round table. It would be more personal and would work with only 4 candidates now.

The big silent audience was just odd and creepy.


263 posted on 01/24/2012 10:50:20 AM PST by altura
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To: toddly; MinuteGal

It doesn’t matter what Newt said. It’s the issue: Freedom of Speech.

It’s up to WE THE PEOPLE to do something. Speak out, File suit against the MSM, what ever it takes to draw the line.

The Liberal media should be given notice: We are not going to sit back silently and take it from them anymore. WE, the silent majority, need to find our voice.

IF NOT NOW, WHEN? Florida Freepers, Freep!


264 posted on 01/24/2012 10:50:44 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: fightinJAG

>> ... would you or would you not support a rule against audience participation?

With the implication that I’m Newt cheerleader indifferent to fair play? Nice try.


265 posted on 01/24/2012 10:50:59 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: fightinJAG

P.S. This is typical tyrannical behavior by the extreme left-wingers. It’s beent hat way for decades. Whena dictator speaks the applause goes on for minutes as no one wants to be the first to stop applauding for fear of being singled out and killed. If someone else speaks no one is allowed to applaud for the same reason.

Here you are wanting no one to applaud for Republicans, citing “rules”. Well, those are the same rules tyrants use to control their populace.

We will not be silenced!


266 posted on 01/24/2012 10:51:49 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: hoosiermama

I’m not a lawyer, so I have no idea the basis for such a lawsuit.

I just know that were you and I in that audience, we wouldn’t have played by NBC’s anti-free speech, robot rules.

I know we would have stood to shout and applaud every answer given by Newt and booed all of Romney’s attacks.

Had we been removed, then ... lawsuit, you betcha!

The audience erred in going along to get along. They out-numbered Brian Willaims and all of security on the scene.

Those well-mannered folks just needed a couple of rebels! I’m pretty much surprised, given the location: Tampa.

Must have been too many Yankees in that otherwise Southern audience! LOL.


267 posted on 01/24/2012 10:53:04 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: LostInBayport

Exactly. Brian and NBC know that Newt will attack the media and that he always gets applause when he does so.

People hate the media almost as much as they hate congress and Obama. Maybe more.

Because we know that without the media’s protection and support, Obama would never have been elected.

Their double standard is egregious and Newt should continue to call them on it.


268 posted on 01/24/2012 10:53:04 AM PST by altura
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To: drpix

your analogy is flawed.. if Gingrich was going to pull a Reagan he would have raised hell last night right on the stage like Reagan did at the time... THAT was what made it special not waiting a day later and then threatening to not show up in the next debate unless he got his way.. the way Gingrich did it this morning looked bad.. evidently you didn’t see it

you never would have heard Ronald Reagan whine the day after about taking his toys and going home if he didn’t get his way.. it would have been negotiated behind the scenes not out in front of the cameras the next day...NEVER


269 posted on 01/24/2012 10:54:08 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

“I paid for this microphone.”

Why do people always think they know what Reagan would do?


270 posted on 01/24/2012 10:57:29 AM PST by altura
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To: onyx

Whether or not a speaker is inspirational is not something that is “valid” or “invalid.” It is a matter of opinion.

And my opinion is based on Newt’s history and the conduct of this campaign.

NO ONE would even give Newt a second’s look until we were all out of other choices. Why? Because he’s not inspirational.

Revving people up in a “hit him again, Joey” way is not inspirational, in my view.

There are no memorable soundbites from any of those long hours Newt droned on in previous years. Nothing wrong with that. But, in my view, that’s evidence that he’s not an inspiring speaker.

Finally, the fact that one can deliver a speech without a teleprompter doesn’t equal “inspiring,” either. LOTS of people can do that; in fact, most people in “speaking fields” can. But inspiration comes from ideas and the ability to paint them in words. Simply speaking without a teleprompter doesn’t necessarily get you there.


271 posted on 01/24/2012 10:58:15 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: toddly

“”or better yet they are going to use this thread as a bug zapper.””

That possibility was beginning to dawn on me as well, in between trying to get folks to stop and listen to the clip, or read a transcript...

Ya know, Newt was NOT my first choice, but good Lord, with what we have left, IMHO he is our best shot, and I often reflect on how God gives imperfect people the opportunity to redeem themselves, and I find myself praying daily that not only is this Newt’s chance, but that we can prove our mettle in helping him.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


272 posted on 01/24/2012 10:58:24 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: drpix

Is Newt or any of the other candidates “paying for this microphone”?


273 posted on 01/24/2012 11:00:18 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: Scythian

Moderator : Sit there and be quite, no applauding.

Audience : Okay

Goverment : Sit there and be quite until we ruin the country

People : Okay


Exactly.


274 posted on 01/24/2012 11:01:03 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
you never would have heard Ronald Reagan whine the day after about taking his toys and going home if he didn’t get his way.. it would have been negotiated behind the scenes not out in front of the cameras the next day...NEVER

Newt didn't threaten to take "his toys and go home" and your characterization that Newt was "whining" is your own.

Lib-Licker Laps-up Lib NYT Lies.

275 posted on 01/24/2012 11:01:44 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: onyx; kristinn

Point is that the audience did NOT follow the rules, there were plenty of noise from the audience. They were NOT removed.

The rule only applied to those NBC wanted to silence. Even a threat of a lawsuit would stop this media manipulation. If we don’t draw the line now, when?

No one yells fire, no conservaative has ever tried to out yell the moderators or candidates. The “rule” is against the law!


276 posted on 01/24/2012 11:02:30 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: altura

Exactly. Brian and NBC know that Newt will attack the media and that he always gets applause when he does so.

People hate the media almost as much as they hate congress and Obama. Maybe more.

Because we know that without the media’s protection and support, Obama would never have been elected.

Their double standard is egregious and Newt should continue to call them on it.


THAT’S IT! BULLSEYE!


277 posted on 01/24/2012 11:02:56 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: b9

Really?

That’s pathetic to view the presidential debates as a sporting match.

That pretty much vindicates Ann Coulter’s point, sorry to say.


278 posted on 01/24/2012 11:02:56 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: ConfidentConservative
Comparing a TRIAL to a debate? ;)

Sure. The political debate format is a argumentative rhetorical form directly descended from the legal trial by way of the policy debate (aka: competitive academic debate), complete with presentation of evidence, rebuttals, cross examination and summaries.

279 posted on 01/24/2012 11:05:14 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: fightinJAG
NO ONE would even give Newt a second’s look until we were all out of other choices. Why? Because he’s not inspirational.

That's like saying "ALL" and it's always wrong. I was for Newt Gingrich, long before most here.

I find his speeches inspirational, and you don't. That's also a matter of opinion, but that doesn't make yours valid or mine invalid.

8 Minutes of Newt Gingrich at the Greenville SC Ham House

280 posted on 01/24/2012 11:05:24 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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