Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
Not going to spend any further time on this, but the name obviously existed because it is on the Nordyke Twins birth certificates.
Glad you included that link. Every day I’m more and more impressed with your brain and articulation. I’ve no educational or experience ‘creds’ - but do recognize thinking worth paying attention to!
I’ve been saying this all along. Obama claims to have ordered TWO hard copies of his LFBC. What was the point of getting two when he’s not willing to let either one be seen in a court of law. The media needs to ask why one of those alleged birth certificates was not submitted in his defense. Is it a tacit admission that the claims of forgery might be true??
Yup. The only time the case was ever TRIED, Obama lost.
The president, Barry “No Show” Soetoro Obama, has set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove he is eligible for office and to be on the ballots. Time to challenge him in all 57 states.
If you can’t qualify for the primary ballot, you can’t qualify for the general ballot either.
In several cases, he has made some of the most astute observations.
That assessment is right on
Her heart is in the right place, but her social and presentation skills are not up to the task. She also needs better focus and a better prioritization for what she intends to present.
During an eligibility hearing, she needs to leave side issues alone. Obama’s social security issue is not relevant to eligibility. Showing him to be a lying con-man does not make him ineligible. (Unfortunately.)
I agree, he's made that quite obvious for the past year or so.. :/ What are you talking about? Sven has made great efforts to demonstrate that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. He has worked to explain how Obama's birth records and his weird Connecticut social security number are all linked together, and in my opinion there is quite a bit of merit to his earlier opinions.
Now I think he is wrong about the birth certificate being accepted as valid by the action of the first two attorneys, but people are entitled to be wrong on occasion. Cut Sven some slack.
The obvious question, though, is why Obama isn’t using a valid social security number if his documentation is all in line as he claims. So it is relevant, particularly given that Obama has not submitted any LEGAL evidence for any of his claims. If Obama had submitted a genuine legally-certified birth certificate from Hawaii THEN the social security issue would be irrelevant to the discussion of eligibility, but because he has given absolutely NO evidence for his birth claims all we can discuss is whether his claims are credible given what we CAN know. And the fraud surrounding all his other documents makes all his claims non-credible at this point.
“The media needs to ask why one of those alleged birth certificates was not submitted in his defense. Is it a tacit admission that the claims of forgery might be true??”
Questioning Barry’s eligibility status would put the reluctant media into the position of having to listen to answers. Listening to answers might lead to more questions, which might lead to disaffection - which would lead to media members having to dismantle the Obieshrines they’ve set up on their desks. That possibility is too harsh for them to contemplate. They cannot bear the thought of admitting their Obieshrines should have been erected in the office mens’/ladies’ rooms. Continuing to kiss the One’s asterisk in such surroundings even they would consider distasteful - but too many, continue they would. Liberals/marxists/communists don’t ordinarily recognize a need for self-reflection. Kind of like daylight to vampires.
They aren’t stupid. They know full well Obama is a fake. They don’t care. He’s doing to our blessed country exactly what they want him to do. Simple as that. We are literally enmeshed in an intellectual war over the continued existance of the soul of America: the Constitution.
Fortunately, there are people like you and so many other FReepers willing to stand on the front line. Every day you all bring tears of appreciation to my aged eyes.
It can be MADE relevant, but you have to “show relevance” in order to go off on a tangent in a court. In an ACTUAL trial with a defense counsel, It would have taken several days, and she could have presented the evidence relating to the social security number at that time, but in a hearing during which the judge has already explained that he will enter a default judgement, it is simply trying the judge’s patience to listen to all that side stuff.
I will point out that the judge kept hurrying her along.
Well, another thing this whole situation show is HOW deep into our system the enemy are embedded.. It took them around 6 months to scrub any relevant info they could find on and off of the net to be able to secure him in a position of power that, whether the rest of the world wants to admit or not, is the most powerful in the world.
Now look what we have in control.. and look where that got not only us, but many of the conflicts around the world >.<
He (and whatever group that is supporting him) appears to be out to destroy any freedom in the world. The situation is looking more grim worldwide by the day.
I am so happy that you decided to become a member here, and I highly respect all of the work and research you have done and brought it all to our attention.
Never give up, and PLEASE stay safe :)
“That is the Constitution at it’s core in the Articles concerning the Presidency. 49 states can state a fraud can be President in their super majority, but if one state demands proof and the candidate does not provide that legal proof, the one state in checks and balances can negate a national Presidential Election. There is no court nor Supreme Court which can undo this. “
This makes total sense to me. Hence my question. In the case Georgia does not put Obama on its ballot, can the Democratic Party take this to the Supreme Court? Mike Berlon indicated that this is what they will, in fact, do. I am asking a naive question (not being a Constitution expert of a Law scholar): is it possible for the Supreme Court to issue ruling on what Georgia should do? Doesn’t the idea of having 50 states have to do with each state having some degree of autonomy? And that means that federal government cannot force individual states to do certain things. And one of those things it should not be able to force them to do is choose presidential candidates. The states should have autonomy in ratifying candidates, to the best of my understanding. Am I wrong? To my mind, forcing a candidate on a state is a totalitarian thing to do, which negates any kind of state autonomy.
De novo means the appeals court will review NOT the “findings of facts” (the evidence) placed in the record by the trial court, but ONLY the “conclusions of law” to those facts, unless there was error associated with the facts.
But the none of the BC and paternity, and BHO Sr. facts pertaining to the NBC issue are disputed by Barry, only Orly's forgery and SS# fraud facts. The appeals court will not touch the evidence that confirms the identity and Kenyan citizenship of the claimed biological father of Barry.
The key “finding of fact” that BHO Sr. was NOT EVER a US citizen was established using INS documents obtained by FOIA request and testified to by the person who obtained the INS docs, writings in Dreams claimed to have been written by Barry, and by non-original, non-certified copies of images of Barry's COLB and LFBC that Barry himself claims to be genuine.
Also placed into evidence are images of the HI divorce record which is available to the public which establish that an HI court confirmed BHO Sr was Barry's father. This means that the BC images do not have to be genuine to establish that fact, especially since these images are uncontested by Barry (both by default and in public declarations).
The INS FOIA records corroborate that BHO Sr. is Barry's biological if not legal father due to explicitly suspected bigamy. The suspected bigamy is on the record in the INS docs.
I am absolutely certain that NONE of these findings of fact entered into evidence will be disputed in any appeal.
IMO, ONLY the “conclusions of law” that Barry is constitutionally ineligible under MvH due to NOT having “parents who are citizens” (parents plural) will be reviewed in any appeal of a GA SOS removal of Barry due to ineligibiliity.
Now that the plaintiffs appear to have won their default judgment, they must get Malihi so sign a ruling/decision/recommendation. The plaintiffs must each submit to the court separate drafts of the “findings of fact and conclusions of law” for their own hearing that the attorneys propose that the judge sign. We haven't seen those, but I am sure that Orly's will be very entertaining and may need to undergo several re-writes under direction of the judge.
“I am looking at this like a chess match”
You are absolutely right about that. The decision not to show up and put on a defense were political and legal decisions. And they have nothing to do with whether the BC is fake or real.
As to the question of electors. Newt Gingrich will not be on the Primary Ballot in Virginia, that doesn’t mean he won’t be on the general election ballot in November (should he win the nomination, which is entirely possible).
Wow.
So are you say Gingrich won’t be on the General Elelction ballot in Virginia?
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