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Liberal reaction to repeal of guns on campus law(VA barf alert)
thecollegianur.com ^ | 26 January, 2012 | Ben Panko

Posted on 01/26/2012 1:14:06 PM PST by marktwain

Before I say anything else, let me make it clear: any liberal (or person) who calls himself an American should believe in the Constitution. I see, too often, in blogs and on television people who selectively promote their favorite parts of our governing document. Conservatives seem as if they want to tattoo the 10th Amendment (states’ rights) on their chest, but often questionably cut corners around the Fourth Amendment (protection against unwarranted searches) for the sake of “national security.” Liberals talk endlessly of First Amendment rights to free speech, while trying to ignore the Second Amendment. I try not to be one of those people.

Del. Robert Marshall introduced a bill this General Assembly session that would prevent Virginia’s public universities from barring their faculty to carry concealed firearms. According to the local Style Weekly, he was inspired by concerns expressed by professors in the wake of the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007. Marshall believes that professors could add a layer of security during emergencies.

This bill could set a dangerous precedent. It says that any professor who holds a concealed-carry permit would be allowed to carry a weapon on public university campuses. Logically, one would believe that the process to acquire these permits is strict and intelligent, but in gun-friendly Virginia, this is not the case. A safety course of some kind must be completed to qualify, according to the Virginia State Police website. Ridiculously, online and video courses are listed as satisfactory.

While I have never fired a gun, I think I can reasonably assume that it is something you should probably practice at first. Marshall said: “Parents routinely trust college professors with the intellectual formation of their children. Why wouldn’t they trust them with their lives, under circumstances that may warrant that?” The leaping conclusion of this quote aside, I think parents would have a different reaction when they heard that people who have potentially never fired a gun before could be carrying one around their children.

HB 91 also continues the assault of Virginia’s “conservative” government on private businesses and universities. In 2010, the General Assembly passed a law allowing people to carry concealed weapons into bars. Many business owners expressed justified worry about guns and alcohol mixing, and outrage that they were no longer allowed to set policies for their own establishments.

Rogue Attorney General and gubernatorial-race spoiler Ken Cuccinelli continues his taxpayer-funded war on academic freedom against the University of Virginia for defending a professor who published data in support of global warming. How dare he conduct science in this state! The state is imposing unwanted rules on public universities at a time when the government is also cutting their funding. I laugh when the governor complains about his troubles with unfunded mandates.

The University of Richmond is not a public institution, but this bill could set a precedent that affects us too. Some will point to incidents such as the recent dorm and apartment burglaries on campus as evidence of a need for more security, but that incident had nothing to do with life-threatening violence, and everything to do with forgetting to lock doors.

Campus police have been heavily trained to deal with dangerous situations, especially in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings. They know when to confront a suspect and when to hold fire. Their expertise cannot be matched by the average citizen even if they do hold a doctorate. A faculty member could easily misidentify a student walking or running across campus as a gunman, and a terrible situation would become even worse.

The Second Amendment protects “the right of people to keep and bear arms” in the U.S. Its simplicity is both beautiful and frustrating, in that it has been interpreted and re-interpreted often in the last 200 years.

My interpretation fully supports the right, but also protects the rights of institutions to set their own rules about something so critical and divisive. And call me naïve, but school still seems like no place to have a gun.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; campus; constitution; highereducation; mcdonnell; va; vageneralassembly; vatech
There are so many fallacies in this article, that I am surprised that there are only two comments on it. Both debunk his ramblings.
1 posted on 01/26/2012 1:14:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Before I say anything else, let me make it clear: any liberal (or person) who calls himself an American should believe in the Constitution...”

Well, does he?

And besides, his college should require basic reading and logic skills before allowing entrance.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 1:16:47 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: marktwain

“that would prevent Virginia’s public universities from barring their faculty to carry concealed firearms.”

that would prevent Virginia’s public universities from barring their faculty *from*carrying* concealed firearms.

One doesn’t “bar to,” one “bars from.”

Illiterate bastard.


3 posted on 01/26/2012 1:28:05 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: marktwain

” that would prevent Virginia’s public universities from barring their faculty to carry concealed firearms.”

I’m not going to call you naive.

I’m going to call you abysmally stupid.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 1:29:35 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Oops.

My previous note was in response to “And call me naïve, but school still seems like no place to have a gun.”

I hit control C, but IE apparently failed to copy the selected text to the clipboard.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 1:32:50 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Marshall said: “Parents routinely trust college professors with the intellectual formation of their children The leaping conclusion of this quote aside, I think parents would have a different reaction when they heard that people who have potentially never fired a gun before could be carrying one around their children. Kind of like not trusting your children with college professors because they have no intellect at all.
6 posted on 01/26/2012 1:34:50 PM PST by mtairycitizen
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I don't trust my children with college professors because they generally have no intellect.

I guess the analogy kind of works

7 posted on 01/26/2012 1:37:27 PM PST by mtairycitizen
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To: marktwain

At least he admits that professors with PhDs are unlikely to have any common sense.


8 posted on 01/26/2012 2:00:35 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: mtairycitizen

“Kind of like not trusting your children with college professors because they have no intellect at all.”

I don’t care who you are, that there is funny, right there.

Didn’t this moron stop to think about professors getting training, or about professors who are pathalogically afraid of firearms opting out?


9 posted on 01/26/2012 2:04:54 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: marktwain

“And call me naïve, but school still seems like no place to have a gun.”

Perhaps this should have been pointed out to each of the shooters who have - over the past few years - killed and injured so many unarmed victims at a variety of schools.


10 posted on 01/26/2012 9:42:17 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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