Skip to comments.Final PPP Poll- Our final Florida numbers: Romney 39, Gingrich 31, Santorum 15, Paul 11:
Posted on 01/30/2012 7:52:53 PM PST by georgiagirl_pam
Their last few Tweets: Our final Florida numbers: Romney 39, Gingrich 31, Santorum 15, Paul 11 Mitt's up 45-32 with those who have already voted in Florida, about a third of the electorate: Newt has to win election day voters by 6-8 to pull upset, but Mitt up 36-30 with ppl who plan to vote tmrw Mitt up big with all his core groups in FL- 39 pt lead with moderates, 12 with seniors, 12 with women Newt only winning his core groups by single digits- 8 pts with Tea Party, 6 with Evangelicals. Not enough
PPP: “Progressive progressive progressive”.
Get out the vote Tea Party Patriots in FL!
Hang in there, Rick. You’re closing in on that VP spot...
Gotta love the fact that Gingrich + Santorum = 46%.
Santorum needs to drop out. He doesn’t have a chance to win at this point. At least not in Florida. Since it’s winner take all he should at least encourage his people to vote for Newt in Florida...and Newt can recommend Santorum in states that Newt didn’t get on the ballot but Santorum did.
Newt was down at one point in SC 18 points and won by 12. That’s a 30 point turn around. He can do it.
We would not be in this mess if he’d been on his game in tht last Debate.
Does anyone remember that IIRC Florida is penalized half their delegates b/c they are having the primary early? If Mittens wins he gets 25 delegates not 50.
I don’t believe this poll....
I think their tied or REAL close....
We’ll see tomorrow night.
Can anyone tell me WHY 200,000 people vote early and what is their reasoning?
Ode to the Grand Olde Party, and their BFF, the Obamanator.
When Newt or Paul rocks the GOP Establishment Boat,
The GOP oarsmen pull knives from their boots.
The hacking and slashing puts extreme fighting to shame,
Never, no NEVER rock the GOP Establishment Boat!
They cannot win elections, by choice of their suits,
A RINO Nominee is a Democrat, - - - - one and the same.
Two Party as One Party is what they adore.
“Never give voters a choice,” ( or politicians
Are out of life-time jobs, - - forever more).
As we pay our bills holding our noses as we vote,
The Obamanator holds his cold, steel knife
To Americas throat - - - - .
I’m not attacking you. But I live in Miss. Why the hell should me or anybody else in the other states accept the candidates chosen by four states? In my opinion the demoncrats are commies and the pubs are liberal progressives.
they have 99 so whoever wins gets 50.
Doesn’t look good.
I posted a comment on my FB page to my FL friends what they planned to do tomorrow. These are mostly people with either Evangelical backgrounds (I went to Christian School) or current/prior Military.
It’s 9 votes Romney, 2 Santorum, 1 Gingrich.
A couple of the Romney people supported Huckabee back in 2008 and have said they biggest factor for them was “Electability”. Another is one of my former troops who is now a prominent Orlando Businessman that was leaning Gingrich earlier this week, but is now voting Romney. Only one of my former teachers so far is going for Gingrich.
The Romney votes are quite alarming. I can assure you these people aren’t moderate/liberal/RINO’s etc, but they are being suckered into the whole electability argument.
So I posted this article from Slate and asked them to change the names from 2004 to the players in 2012. This article could have been written this month, but it was written 8 years ago.
Early on I liked Santorum but watching him in the debates, especially the last two, I see him as a nasty, spiteful, little man with grandiose, unrealistic expectations.
If he loved this country and had any self respect, he'd have bailed out after SC and back Gingrich the way Perry did.
BTW, where's Bachmann? Working for Romney writing lying Gingrich hit pieces?
I believe PPP’s final SC poll was Newt up by 6.
He won by 14.
Apply that to the last FL poll by PPP.
Why were S.C. evangelicals so bothered by Mittens’ Mormonism, but FL ones seem to not care about it?
“Mitt’s up 45-32 with those who have already voted in Florida, about a third of the electorate:
Shows how uniformed the voters are
All those ads about the House Ethics problems did their job and yet the truth has been out for years .
MSM knew it and said diddly
GOP elites know it and kept silent
This has been the most unethical ad campaign I have witnessed
Newt’s PAC better have ads ready for the next state pointing Romney’s blatant lies “
NEWT NEEDS RICK PERRYS AD PEOPLE! They did some great ads for him, and super fast too. Shame that he had already gotten to the point of no return first.
But his ad people were great. (Unless it was Perry that put those concepts together)
Ouch. That will likely make even a miracle finish by Newt meaningless. I have been told a TON of folks voted early.
As Newt said tonight, unless Romney starts winning 50% or more of the vote ...there is NO way conservatives are going to let him run away with the nomination. Delegates from here on out are PROPORTIONAL.
SOMEONE will have to drop out — that someone will have to be Santorum. Even Paul.
We have MORE than enough votes to kick Romney OUT OF THE GAME FOR GOOD — UNITE, Conservatives ...COME THE HELL ON and UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m ready, personally, for some new spokespersons for Newt ..forget Palin and her cryptic Fox News crap ...forget ALL of them ...forget RUSh ...for God’s sake, forget Cain ... ready for some NEW BLOOD, Newt ...time to bring it out!!
Except that most polls show if Santorum got out, his votes would split 50/50 for Newt/Romney. Most of the pollsters have asked the Mitt/Newt head to head, and the spread is the same with all 4, or just the 2.
It’s widely held misconception, not based on factual information. The public is much better informed now than they were 50 years ago. That is why most endorsements don’t mean much anymore. In the past, people would say if Candidate X is supported by Y, then they are good enough for me. Doesn’t work much anymore. The reason the candidates seek endorsements is not so much to influence voters. But it is to gain resources from who endorsed them and also helps with their fundraising. But the endorsements themselves change very few minds with voters.
If conservatives united ...we’d be +-57 to 49 in Florida!! We’d cruise to victory from here on out!!!
What is UP with us???? Can we not do the math??
We should have bound and gagged Paul from the START. Same with Santorum at this point. I’m SO disgusted!!
Shows the trend is toward Newt, who has been on Fox a lot and looking pretty good there. I’m predicting a narrow Romney win of 2-4 points. Santorum leaving the state is good for +1 or 2 for Newt.
It’s still an 8 point lead for the Socialist lite, but it leaves the door a bit ajar for Newt to pull of an upset with a big turnout from his supporters and low turnout from Willard’s sheeple.
Plus Romney has underperformed his poll numbers in each of the three votes so far
Pray for Newt and an upset win tomorrow.
Looks doable to me.
Unlikely. And you guys really need to stop pushing this idea.
Look, Santorum was around 12% when Romney was ahead, and was around 12% when Gingrich was ahead, and regardless of what the poll says now, will finish with about 12% tomorrow. Santorum wasn’t hurting Newt’s ability to carry FL when Newt was up with over 40% of the vote, but now that Newt has lost that lead everybody want to blame Santorum? Everyone knows the key demographics of FL are the Senior Voters and Hispanics. At one time or another, Newt led those categories, but he lost them last week to Romney. These two categories for the most part are NOT Santorum voters. Whoever carries Hispanics and Seniors wins FL.
FL has A LOT of moderate/liberal voters, to the point they do make up a plurality of GOP voters. It’s quite possible, depending on turnout, that Romney’s vote total may exceed Gingrich and Santorum combined. If that happens, then what will the excuse be?
I finished my FL Simulation early today and posted in another thread, showing three different models based on turnout and a county by county breakout. In the “best-case” Scenario, Newt is down 7, in the middle case, about 15-16, and in the worse case 26.
I disagree with the polls on that...doubt many Santorum voters would ever go for the socialist pro choice candidate
I can guess too:
uh, no, FLorida would have had 99, instead they have 50. ......Which is less than Georgia or Tennessee about the same as OK, all of which will go Gingrich if he stays in.
They lost half, so have 50 instead of 100.
“Early on I liked Santorum but watching him in the debates, especially the last two, I see him as a nasty, spiteful, little man with grandiose, unrealistic expectations. “
I don’t see Rick as nasty, just out of his league. He doesn’t even realize that he’s out of his league.
Nasty is everything Romney unleashed so far. All the lies and deception...
Nevertheless, he has earned the animus of every conservative who wants to win.
He'll never win anything, ever, again.
IT’S THE MONEY!!!!! Newt will NEVER be able to match establishment
I was wondering how the delegates were proportioned after FL, and that bodes well for Newt.
They’ve spun FL as a blowout for Romney. They’ve set themselves up the bomb cuz if it’s only even single digits Romney looks like a chump and a loser.
I believe it will go all the way to convention.
He won by 14.
Yup, and like SC, the numbers show a trend back toward Gingrich with early voters pro-Romney, late voters not so much. I think Mitt will still win but get a scare.
Probably the ones who are steadfastly committed to their candidate.
I'd vote against obama tomorrow.
If you asked them why they think Romney’s more “electable” what do they say? Hopefully it’s not the polls since Kerry was ahead by Bush all year up to at least 4 months before election day when he was ahead by 7 points.
IMO, Newt won SC in part because of the anti-Bain ads. Even though voters may have disagreed with the attacks, found them anti-capitalist or whatever, it showed them what Romney will be facing in the Fall that will make him unelectable against Obama. Because Newt won by so much in SC those Bain ads weren’t decisive, but they could have made the different in FL precisely because they showed what Mitt’s glass jaw would be in the fall. Newt will not win the primary if he doesn’t go back to attacking Romney’s business career, albeit preferably with sharper, more defined attacks.
I am not sure how many millions of dollars of RNC and PAC monies have flooded the FL airwaves with anti-Newt garbage, but you can rest assured the State-Run-Media will be saying "it's a done deal; the Romney Nomination is a foregone conclusion".
Be prepared for 4 additional years of corruption and destruction of this country when that happens.
Cheating. It’s Florida.
Isn’t Mitt’s advisor the same one Charlie Crist used?
I don’t believe *any* of the polls anymore. They are meant to dissuade likely voters from going to the polls, and make voters feel like their vote will be wasted if they vote their heart ( for the true conservative in this case).
I’m so sick of the media leading the way, I’m sick of the nastiness, the Pelosi threat — wish she’d just pack up her face and go fade away.
Oh you know, it’s the standard he looks and sounds “Preidential”, and of course, the polls.
You’re always so cheerful..thanks for the tip.
Hope you’re support of a liar like Romney is very fulfilling for you.
“...you guys really need to stop pushing this idea.”
You need to stop telling other people what to do.
Anyone who wins, left or right, has to have some connection with the people -- call it charisma.
It is totally irrelevant how good Santorum is on the issues. Santorum has ZERO charisma.
Santorum it truly delusional if he thinks all of a sudden there will be a groundswell of support for him. He will never ignite the people to get behind him. He will never be President.
He is helping Mitt by staying it -- to deny that is to deny reality.
I think your wrong. 2/1 newt sounds more like it...from the polls I’ve seen. It would help Newt a lot.