Posted on 01/31/2012 4:59:07 PM PST by The Shrew
Of course, in order for actual Congresscritters to actually read it, they had to wait until it was passed per San Fran Nan. Imagine how much more true that was of bishops.
Would that the church had ten thousand more like him.
Thank you for your post and I second that wish.
God bless you and yours.
Labor unions are granted exemptions by the dictator but not us Catholics.
Great point. Make no mistake, many would just follow orders, no matter what those orders are.
And yes, I am talking about the military.
Both of them have instructed the foul creature Sebellius NOT to present itself for Holy Communion.
The thumbscrews, the rack, and the stake are, as always, available ... but not authorized for use in these United States at this time.
Amen!!
I did tell the SOC Chatroom about if anyone was willing to go up to Maine to help with the cacuses up that way.
I’m not picking on Catholics, cause are one. And not by birth/marriage, but ny choice. And because I understand the fact that the Church is the one true Church, I expect more from us than any other denomination. We need to clean our House first, before we worry about others.
I can't speak for the East Coast, but here in the Midwest, Catholics are very active politically. The majority of pro-life activity comes from Catholics, although there are a lot of Protestants who are active in our local Right to Life organization. I don't mean to slight them; we're glad to have their support. But the majority of turnout for the annual March, for volunteers at our two pro-life organizations (one a counseling service for pregnant women, the other a thrift shop for children's things), and for door-to-door political campaigning, are Catholics.
I’ve escaped the gloom by getting out and going to the Pine Tree state. The Battle is happening! Screw Vegas.
A rag-tag Santorum - Newt crowd are now headed to caucus sites ... even Bill O’B. of CT-RTL is getting supplies.
I will try not to give your regards to the Maine Liberty Forum folks (the libertarian isolationists). The NEwTS will have only 15 delegate candidates for the 150 slots in the large towns ... so after they vote for their own and the Santorums ... the remaining votes to ???? RP delegates?
RP will be the beneficiary as this activity will help break the ROMNEY slates from sweeping towns.
MR 52%
RP 38%
NG 6%
RS 3%
bttt
A more complete article. You can see that it is mandatory, it is coercion, it will involve financial penalties and possible jail time for those who do not sumbit to this tyranny.
2 posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:02:03 PM by Jim Robinson: “Rebellion against evil tyrants is good for the soul!! Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God!!”
I’m not a Roman Catholic but I am a strong defender of religious freedom under the Constitution. Prohibiting Congressional actions like this is precisely what our Founding Fathers intended by the First Amendment.
What part of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” does this cabinet secretary not understand?
Catholics were not singled out.
Everyone is subject to the same unconstitutional government mandates...EQUALLY.
Catholics are not special. In this case anyway:)
This is like the 20th time I had to say this and some folks keep trying to make a 1st and 14th Amendment case out of it.
The case is CLEARLY the 10th Amendment case: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people".
The US Constitution does not allow the Congress to make such a law, as the specific powers granted do not allow it.
However, IF the Individual Mandate was legal then it could be enforced against Catholics too.
Get it?
Hopefully you two can kiss and make up. Like they say all politics is local, all religion is local. I don’t go to a congregation that’s affiliated with any denomination, let alone a congregation or denomination big enough to have employees whose health care plan in turn would be seized by Obamacare. But I believe I could do some consciousness raising about it, and see if our pastor groks the situation.
Agreed.
I have seen several excommunications over the years. They're necessary in cases of gross public sin. If this isn't gross public sin by publicly threatening to persecute the church of which you are theoretically a member,what else could possibly qualify?
I suspect the idea was to avoid making a “martyr” of this woman by simply advising her of the canon law on the matter regarding automatic excommunication, thereby avoiding drawing sympathy toward her as a “victim.” Maybe that's okay with a pro-choice politician who doesn't make a big deal of his views.
Well, this woman not only makes a big deal of her views but threatens to persecute her own church. Time to respond with a formal public excommunication. Most secularists who are fair will understand private organizations can set their own membership rules, and this woman did take on her own church in public, so she isn't a good example of a victim.
But the store was given away when Muslims got an encompassing pass from it, or at least the ritually odious requirements it would otherwise impose. Now we have a question of equal protection under law.
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