Skip to comments.Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Posted on 01/31/2012 4:59:07 PM PST by The Shrew
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Rebellion against evil tyrants is good for the soul!!
Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God!!
Sounds like unequal protection under the law to me.
Didn't the Democrat party once prize the votes of Catholics? This is amazing to me.
Everything about the Obama Administration is unequal protection under the law.
WHAT??? Muslims are EXEMPT from this abortion pill?? Are you POSITIVE???
Oh please.....Obama will FOOL the CINOS again and again and again......they WANT to be fooled.
Never fear. The GOP-e will get their RINO du jour nominated to save us.
Several Orthodox priests whom I know, including my own Confessor, say that there may well be martyrs in America in the near future.
Sadly, I agree with him.
This may finally be the thing that makes the Catholic Bishops go after their apostate Democrat politicians. The fact that there is no record of Democrat Catholic politicians revolting tells two tales. 1. They are not revolting and 2. The MSM isn't covering them if they are.
muslims are given their food in prison and yet Catholics are told to ignore their religion
So what we have here like their business practice is they decide which business or religion is favored and which one is ignored and forced against to do what they believe in
Newt needs to go after this and tell others of other fair that he wants you to ignore you faith he might force imams to marry two of the same sex, tell Jews to not have their food, etc
Am I mistaken, or didn’t most of the Bishops support Obamacare?
I think you're correct. Does anyone know how many Catholic Bishops and Cardinals have changed in the last three years?
PA, NJ, NH, are 3 states which should vote him out and there again if we had a nominee which was different to obama then they would have a choice on who to vote for but as of right now if Romney gets it then Romney and obama stand side by side on virtually all issues.
There is no difference between them on the issue at all.
It’s bad for us that we can’t get someone decent to ram all of this, oh wait we did but the establishment attacked him and destroyed him
I don’t know about martyrdom, but it is more likely that the tax exemption would be removed (leading to de facto confiscation of property due to the Church’s inability to pay taxes - especially property taxes).
This is why the generals in Spain revolted in 1936; their culture and way of life had been turned upside down by Bolshevism.
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He described Secretary Sebelius as a bitter fallen-away Catholic, and called her one-year deadline extension for non-exempt religious employers an act of mockery...
The dimocrats put a plank on totally supporting abortion into their platform. The Bishops have spoken out ever since then. I even have the links of Bishops urging Catholics not to vote for Obama.
I just think too many people wanted to see a black man as president. Too bad that they chose a baby killer.
After going to catholic grade and high school, I left when the church would let pro abortion, progay candidates speak at there facilitates and let them have communion...I’m happy to see them put their beliefs above politics.
Jim, reading the post tonight something is brewing people are beyond ticked on so many fronts.
**Am I mistaken, or didnt most of the Bishops support Obamacare?**
Not enough of them spoke out, but they did not want Obortion O to be president, let alone have Obamacare.
What is the one church that has stood against
Same sex marriage,
Embronic stem cell research
And is still standing and will continue to oppose these policies? The Catholic Church.....why do you think the media and the dims hate the Catholic Church so much?
Campion put a post on another thread about a bishop. Sibellius has been excommunicated by her bishop.
Obama won the overall religious vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, reversing President George W. Bushs 51 percent to 48 percent values voter victory over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in 2004. Obama also won the Catholic vote, persuaded young evangelical voters to choose him and began to squeeze shut the so-called God gap yawning between religious Democrats and Republicans during the Bush era.
How will the roughly 9.1 million evangelical Christians who voted for Obama vote in the next election? Will Obama's actions compel the 31.2 million evangelicals who didn't vote in the 2008 election to vote next time?
Were you giving them communnion and giving them a free pass in the booth??
What about it????
He is right. The question is if the Church will see this through, or duck out once the tax exempt status is threatend.
If I went to morning Mass in Tampa tomorrow morning and the celebrant asked, “anybody who voted yesterday in the primary, raise your hand”, a majority would not raise their hands.
And the Sunday morning crowd is a different group entirely. (And then there are the 50% who show up once per month or less often.)
And New York’s Archbishop Dolan is still trying to figure out what to do. I hope he comes to a conclusion soon.
This particular Bishop has ALWAYS BEEN VERY PRO-LIFE. I really do not think he would have voted for Obama. He’s a “John Paul II Priest and Bishop” [which is Catholic code for a true traditional, orthodox, Catholic prelate].
Excerpts from Constitutions of The Several States:
New York State Constitution 1777:
``this convention doth further, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, ordain, determine, and declare, that the free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever hereafter be allowed, within this State, to all mankind: Provided, That the LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE, hereby granted, shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness, or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of this State.
Article 3rd. Freedom in religion; right and duty of religious worship
That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the DICTATES OF THEIR OWN CONSCIENCES and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE, in the free exercise of religious worship
New Hampshire Constitution 1784:
IV. Among the natural rights, some are in their very nature unalienable, because no equivalent can be given or received for them. Of this kind are the RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE.
V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship GOD according to the dictates of his own conscience, and reason; and no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained in his person, liberty or estate for worshipping GOD, in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience, or for his religious profession, sentiments or persuasion; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or disturb others, in their religious worship.
Massachusetts Constitution 1780:
Art. II. It is the right as well as the duty of all men in society, publicly and at stated seasons, to worship the Supreme Being, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty, or estate, for worshipping God in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience, or for his religious profession or sentiments, provided he doth not disturb the public peace or obstruct others in their religious worship.
[ex post facto laws illegal]:
Art. XXIV. Laws made to punish for actions done before the existence of such laws, and which have not been declared crimes by preceding laws, are unjust, oppressive, and inconsistent with the fundamental principles of a free government.
And every denomination of Christians, demeaning themselves peaceably and as good subjects of the commonwealth, shall be equally under the protection of the law; and no subordination of any sect or denomination to another shall ever be established by law.
So, where is the ACLU screaming about separation of Church and State?
The Constitution was written to protect religions FROM the state. How else would it be possible for states to have official religions at the time the Constitution was ratified?
The problem is that the Obama regime sees both religion and the Constitution as barriers to their plan to enslave all of us. And Sebilius sees abortion not just as a form of birth control, but a sacrament. One of her biggest supporters when she held state office was “Tiller the Killer.”
were the dickens were they when we were calling on them to speak about obamacare before it was a law.
Now they're all singing in harmony like watchmen...except the door was kicked in two years ago.
And they were Catholic too!
There's a difference, I think, between a martyr and a soldier.
And being Catholic, a good number of them will still vote dem.
So Newt says Obama has declared war on Catholic Church? It’s true and I’m glad someone has the cojones to say it.
When we were going through pre Cana in Lincoln, the priest said that in 15 years he expected active persecution.
My LCMS pastor said the same, only he added he expected a civil war to boot.
Are you too lazy to keep up with the news in Lincoln?
Or we may very well see a second American revolution in the works.
A true Nebraskan. Even though he wasn't born there, and it took him a bit to get there. He stand by what he believes and makes no attempts to pretend other wise.
As someone who grew up there, from a Lutheran family, we fought a lot with our Catholic friends and family. But it was a family fight. Now that the Fedgov has decided to attack, it is time to push back.
Here is my Archbishop’s letter in the Catholic newspaper:
Time to Lawyer Up!
Tens of millions of Americans need to say “NO, we will not obey”
One will lead to the other.
Regardless of faith.