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In July 1996, Mitt Romney helped locate the missing teenage daughter of a partner at Bain Capital.
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Posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:25 PM PST by fred4prez

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To: buwaya
Er, so then Mormons aren’t fit for public office because of religious differences ?

Needs more straw.

The unfit thing you've conjured up would be because of LOGIC problems in a MORMON's brain.

321 posted on 02/03/2012 2:58:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: buwaya
And EVERY point in your selective list can be and has been used in religious controversies among Christian sects.

Ahhh...

Ya just can't beat the classics!

322 posted on 02/03/2012 2:59:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: buwaya
Christianity as a concept is broad and fuzzy.

John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

 


323 posted on 02/03/2012 3:01:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12
This Catholic TarBaby is taking on a life of it's own!
324 posted on 02/03/2012 3:02:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: buwaya
The Catholic church is CATHOLIC - outside of doctrine we can have our own opinions.

The LDS religious Organization is MORMON - outside of doctrine we can have our own opinions.

325 posted on 02/03/2012 3:05:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12

But...

did Ms. Gay’s picture appear in the entry at Wal-Mart??


326 posted on 02/03/2012 3:08:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: First Authority
Do you like a man who has made his living as an influence peddler?

Uh...

Isn't that what our President is supposed to do??

327 posted on 02/03/2012 3:09:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: First Authority
and he makes no claims for his past actions as being heroic, is the sign of a genuine man of honor,

Millions of runaways every year, and their parents and their parent's friends have to search for them, one of those people became famous for doing it once, How? Why?

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328 posted on 02/03/2012 3:09:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: First Authority
Isn't that what our President is supposed to do??

Why have a bully pulpit and not use it?

329 posted on 02/03/2012 3:10:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

His daughter is now about 28.

I wonder what HER story is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Gay


330 posted on 02/03/2012 3:18:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly.

WAS there a 'reward'?

DID this kid get it??


What is HIS story???

331 posted on 02/03/2012 3:20:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Interesting that Jon Huntsman and Robert Gay are, well friends and business partners.


332 posted on 02/03/2012 3:32:03 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Elsie

Just wondering, did Romney help find Elizabeth Smart?


333 posted on 02/03/2012 3:37:13 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: cynwoody
Matters every bit as much as whether JFK ever walked on the moon.

Apparently it was important to the people who rewrote the story 18 years later to say that it was Romney himself who made the calls. There was no reason to add that to the story . . . except to make Romney look better. Just as it was important to the people who rewrote the story so that Romney by himself who shut down Bain, rather than a vote of all of the Managing Directors. There was no reason to change those facts . . . except to make Romney look better.

Nobody promoting JFK's campaign claimed that he walked on the moon. If you can't see the difference, you may wish to practice your powers of discernment.

These are mighty big hairs, these let's-make-Romney-a-Super-Hero hairs-by-changing-the-details-eighteen-years-after-the-fact hairs.

I'll be helpful. When you repeat this story the next time? Tell them that Romney personally built a special Batman-like light in his basement and free-climbed the outside of the Empire State building to mount it on the top, so it would shine a photo of the missing girl and a number to call on the clouds over Gotham City. Since that lie wouldn't matter as much as whether FDR ever single-handed-ly won the 4x400 relay in the Olympics.

334 posted on 02/03/2012 6:36:24 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
Apparently it was important to the people who rewrote the story 18 years later to say that it was Romney himself who made the calls. There was no reason to add that to the story . . . except to make Romney look better. Just as it was important to the people who rewrotethe story so that Romney by himself who shut down Bain, rather than a vote of all of the Managing Directors. There was no reason to change those facts . . . except to make Romney look better.


 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


335 posted on 02/03/2012 8:46:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Ramius
What is it that you think a Governor could have done?

Ah, the I'm just the guy in charge excuse, what can I do?

People from all walks of life TRY to save these babies, and sometimes they succeed. What did Romney do? He didn't try anything.

Massachusetts has a law that allows newborn babies to be deposited in safe havens -- fire stations and hospitals -- throughout the state, free of legal responsibility. The problem is there are no signs anywhere, so young women have forgotten the law. Romney could have gone on television, talked for 5-10 minutes, and demanded the legislature pay for signs. He didn't. He did go on television, a lot, but he always talked about something else, like green schools. Just one of a million missed opportunities of what Romney could have done merely in his capacity as a prominent private citizen.

The powers of the Governor of Massachusetts are significant in appointing executive and judicial branch officials and also setting the agenda for the legislature. Did Romney appoint conservative judges? No.

There is plenty of common ground, at least in public speech, for programs to help unwed pregnant girls and reduce abortion. Did he propose any meaningful policy reforms in this area? No. Did he call the legislature back to session to have them deal with the most trivial and popular pieces of pro-life legislation? No.

Finally, did he veto the law which put Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts on the state health board? No. Did he even try to veto the law which provided $50 abortions? No. Did he propose any conscience clause solutions which would have kept Catholic Charities in the adoption business and the Catholic hospitals in the state health network? No.

Not only did he fail, he didn't even try.

336 posted on 02/04/2012 8:39:31 AM PST by cmj328
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To: cynwoody
Class warfare belongs on the DUmp.

The Planned Parenthood agenda is class warfare and Romney is all in for it.

Look at his ingenuity in finding a missing girl as a private citizen and businessman. Who can find a missing, unconscious girl somewhere in the New York City metropolitan area? Romney can.

If he can do that, he can figure out how to save a life or two from abortion.

You think a scared, pressured girl going into a clinic to get an abortion wouldn't stop to talk to Mitt Romney?

Shame he wasn't there. Not even for five minutes on a Wednesday in August.

337 posted on 02/04/2012 8:46:07 AM PST by cmj328
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To: going hot
I would be interested in those numbers compared to Romney's numbers prior to using it as a club to beat him.

The point isn't how many he didn't save, it's how many he tried to save: Zero.

338 posted on 02/04/2012 8:49:25 AM PST by cmj328
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To: JimWayne

Not suitable? What would make him suitable in everyone’s eyes? What qualified Obama?


339 posted on 02/14/2012 9:29:05 AM PST by blacktofu
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