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NYT/CBS poll shows conservatives consolidating behind Santorum
Hotair ^ | 02/14/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/14/2012 6:47:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Consider this a corroboration of Gallup and Pew, both of which have recorded a surge for Rick Santorum that makes him the national frontrunner — if not in each state. The CBS/New York Times poll shows Santorum gaining 14 points in a single month, eclipsing Mitt Romney by three points (still within the MOE), whose support stayed virtually unchanged from January. Almost all of the gain comes at the expense of Newt Gingrich, who dropped to fourth place behind Ron Paul among Republican primary voters:

Rick Santorum has pulled slightly ahead of Mitt Romney in Republican primary voters’ preference for the presidential nomination, a national CBS News/New York Times Poll shows.

Ron Paul is now in third, followed by former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

Among self-described conservative voters, the shift has been fairly dramatic. A month ago in this poll series, conservatives were equally split between Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum at 25/25/24 respectively. Now, however, Santorum’s support in this demo has risen to 38%, while Romney has remained steady at 24% and Gingrich dropped by about half to 12%. The same thing has happened to Tea Party support and evangelicals. The dynamic seems to be a movement away from Gingrich and a consolidation among conservative voters behind Santorum as the alternative to Romney, at least for now.

There are a few things to note about this poll, however. This is a poll of registered voters, not likely voters, which is not as predictive a model and is a curious sampling choice in the middle of the actual primary voting. These results come from a larger survey, most of whose results will be announced later. The overall sample was 1,064 registered voters, but only 331 of those planned to vote in a Republican primary. At least a few of those will be independents rather than Republicans, so the partisan split of the overall survey is likely to be highly skewed to Democrats. That doesn’t matter for these results, but a sample of 331 registered voters for a national poll is on the small side. Keep that in mind.

Now that Santorum has become a legitimate force in the race, he’s getting some attention from the usual suspects. Member of Occupy Tacoma tried to crash a Santorum event, and Politico reports that Santorum responded by calling them agents of “true intolerance”:

Filling the front row at the Washington State History Museum where Santorum spoke, a group of Occupy protesters disrupted the event, forcing Santorum to engage them. Occupy Tacoma, the local branch of the Occupy Wall Street movement, is camped out right next to the museum, and advertised Santorum’s visit on its web site.

“I think it’s really important for you to understand what this radical element represents, because what they represent is true intolerance,” Santorum said, after two protesters were taken to the ground and placed in handcuffs by police.

The protesters, Santorum suggested, “instead of standing here unemployed, yelling at somebody” should instead “go out and get a job.”

Santorum’s supporters roared their approval, chanting “get a job” back at the Occupiers.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then


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To: ohioWfan

Banned?? In you dreams.

Not wise to make ASSumptions about people you don’t know.


181 posted on 02/15/2012 10:03:28 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
You just can't avoid the obscenity can you? More signs of gross immaturity, at a number of levels.

And once again, good luck in surviving on a conservative forum while espousing the evil Obama over any Republican.

It's in black and white. NO big deal to have the country completely destroyed.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were posting at DU.

182 posted on 02/15/2012 10:10:58 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
Oh.......in my list of Obama's evils, I forgot to mention SC Justices.

You are now on record as PREFERRING another Sotomayor or Kagan over any conservative Justice that Santorum would select.

So not only do you PREFER the 'officially evil' Obama's military hatred, violation of religious freedom, and all out war on human life, old and young, but you PREFER another sick, leftist SC Justice over a conservative one.

Yep. You sure are a conservative, madmaximus. Indeed you are.....

183 posted on 02/15/2012 10:58:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

assumptions is an obscenity?? That’s news to me.

You really like making stuff up, don’t you??


184 posted on 02/15/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Again, why do you insist on putting words in my mouth??


185 posted on 02/15/2012 11:04:19 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

I didn’t say any Republican, I said Romney, Santorum or other RINOS. I already said I support Gingrich or any other conservative.

Can you even read??


186 posted on 02/15/2012 11:05:48 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: Born to Conserve
As far as many Santorum supporters can recall, there was a lot of talk that Rick was Romney's stalking horse and was working for Mitt Romney...
Now the shoe is on the other foot, live with it.
187 posted on 02/15/2012 12:02:42 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: madmaximus
Again, why do you insist on putting words in my mouth??

The words came off your finger tips, boy. I didn't make anything up.

I've decided that you're not bright enough to be a Gingrich supporter. They're smart conservatives who love the country, and you don't seem to be any of those things (plus, you're unbelieveably dishonest and vapid).

I think you're either a closet Paulite, or a DU troll. Nothing you say fits what a conservative would say.

So begone troll. There's work to be done, and you're clearly not going to do it.

Enjoy your "Having Obama is better" fantasy. YOUR words. Not my putting them in your mouth.

Sooner or later you may learn that words mean things, and when you say "Having Obama is better" there are going to be a lot of bright people who think you're either nuts, or a troll........or both.

Perhaps at some point, you can defend why Obama's choice for a SC Justice is "better" than Rick Santorum's would be. I think a lot of us would love to know the "logic" behind that.

188 posted on 02/15/2012 2:16:44 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
I already said I support Gingrich or any other conservative.

I know that's what you've said. That's your cover.

NO Gingrich supporter prefers Obama to Santorum. Not one. They may not like Santorum, or even hate him, but not a single one of them thinks that Obama is "better" than Rick is. Not one.

Can you even read??

Yes. Very well, thank you.

That's why I'm still here. Because I can read what you've said, and that includes that "having Obama is better than having Santorum" as President.

It's because I can read and think that I know you're a phony and won't let your little "I'm a conservative" charade go without being challenged.

You could end this by taking back your stupid words, you know? You could say that you don't really mean the stupid words you posted.

Then we could both let this thing go.

But as long as you insist that having Obama is better, you'll get a fight from actual conservatives. (That would be me).

189 posted on 02/15/2012 2:23:20 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

You are so full of crap. And there you go again, twisting my own words for your own BS.

I don’t owe you a god dang thing. You can KMA, cuz I really don’t give a crap what you think.


190 posted on 02/15/2012 6:58:27 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, boy, I’ve decided that you’re not bright enough to be a conservative. You’re unbelievably dishonest, cowardly and stupid.

You’re the one acting trollish, so you can go take a hike.


191 posted on 02/15/2012 7:00:51 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: xzins

Two surprises in this election cycle. (1) That Santorum is “in the running” to a degree, and (2) Many on our forum strongly dislike “Saint Rick.” I suppose I have been hoodwinked to a degree, for I don’t think Rick is as fiscally conservative as I would have liked, but honestly who else is there? The apple has already dropped on Newton’s head.


192 posted on 02/15/2012 7:28:12 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“I see, so all the things the Newt supporters have said about Rick Santorum was not ?”

Huh? Did I say they ‘was’ not?

There is a lot of opportunity to learn to think and speak if you look for it.


193 posted on 02/15/2012 7:30:02 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Theodore R.
The apple has already dropped on Newton’s head.

Still have to count the votes of some 40 plus states, oh, and someone needs to get to 1100 plus delegates, the leader currently has how many?

194 posted on 02/15/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“Now the shoe is on the other foot, live with it.”

I’m living with it just fine, whatever ‘it’ is. You on the other hand seem to be offended by people with differing opinions.

How’s this: I think everything you think is really stupid.

There, does the fact that someone you’ve never met says such a thing really bother you?

This is too easy.


195 posted on 02/15/2012 7:35:05 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: madmaximus

Agree! Santorum will never be the nominee. Have been reading a lot of blogs, news sites and tweets and there are a lot of conservatives that will not support RS


196 posted on 02/15/2012 7:48:58 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Born to Conserve

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204062704577223583032248366.html


197 posted on 02/15/2012 9:00:08 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: madmaximus

“I am very pro-life and pro-family, and so is Gingrich, who is also fiscally conservative.”

So why is Santorum for the Ryan plan, the plan that Newt denounced as right wing engineering?


198 posted on 02/15/2012 11:05:01 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: madmaximus
I've said all I can say to intellectually refute your spurious claim that having Obama is better than having a Santorum presidency. I have enumerated the reasons why your contention is vapid, wrong-headed, and not consistent with conservatism, and I have done so repeatedly.

Therefore, I will conclude this 'discussion' with you, mad one, using words befitting your intellectual and emotional level......

Your mother wears combat boots.

Have a great life. :)

199 posted on 02/16/2012 6:27:29 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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