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Obama surprises with dividends tax
tvnz.com ^ | 9:45AM Tuesday February 14, 2012

Posted on 02/14/2012 2:15:14 PM PST by BenLurkin

Households earning more than $250,000 a year would see the tax they owe on dividends rise to a maximum of almost 40% next year, equal to the higher maximum income tax rate set to take effect in 2013. The current top income rate is 35%.

Obama again proposed raising the current 15% long-term capital gains tax rate to 20%

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1 posted on 02/14/2012 2:15:16 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

We don’t make $250K...but, someone, please, someone, please make Obomba go away!!!!


2 posted on 02/14/2012 2:18:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: BenLurkin

DOA


3 posted on 02/14/2012 2:20:02 PM PST by scooby321
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To: BenLurkin
Surprised?

Hardly.

4 posted on 02/14/2012 2:20:54 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: BenLurkin
Yeh...lets drive us into a deeper recession..and it's real important to grab it from millions of two worker families who are investing monies to put their kids through college and support their "no SS for you" retirement of the future.

Obama is just plain crazy and so are his bootlickers.

5 posted on 02/14/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: goodnesswins

We don’t make $250K...but, someone, please, someone, please make Obomba go away!!!!

You do know that Obama is never going away


6 posted on 02/14/2012 2:23:28 PM PST by molson209
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To: BenLurkin
I would have no problem with taxing dividend income as ordinary income, with one provision: The corporation can expense dividend distributions, so the dividends aren't doubly taxed by corporate income taxes.

I'd be willing to accept taxing long-term capital gains as ordinary income, too -- as long as the cost basis is indexed by the CPI.

Example: you buy a stock for $100/share in 2007. In the past 5 years, the CPI has increased 15% (not exactly, but I'm using that as an easy example). So, when you sell the stock in 2012, the cost basis is $115/share, instead of $100/share.

If you sell the stock in 2012 for $120, you only pay capital gains/income taxes on $5/share, not the $20/share that is primarily due to inflation.

7 posted on 02/14/2012 2:25:36 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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“I would have no problem with taxing dividend income as ordinary income, with one provision: The corporation can expense dividend distributions, so the dividends aren’t doubly taxed by corporate income taxes.’

Are dividend distributions taxed now?


8 posted on 02/14/2012 2:29:37 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: scooby321

I think that’s the point.

“See, the republicans oppose fairness”

I just wish some goper would get the nuts to shove “fairness” right back down his throat.

Fairness, as dictated by 0bama, enforced by government through the threat of violence, differs from communism how?


9 posted on 02/14/2012 2:31:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Rennes Templar
Are dividend distributions taxed now?

Yes, they are. They are considered profit/net income.

So, dividend distributions are taxed twice: once by the corporate income tax, and again by the individual income tax.

That's the real reason for the reduced individual income tax on qualified dividends, but that doesn't fit the narrative of "class warfare".

10 posted on 02/14/2012 2:34:27 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

Why would Obama tax dividend income then allow expensing of dividend distribution?


11 posted on 02/14/2012 2:39:38 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: BenLurkin

That’s great. So dividends issued on shares I purchased with money already taxed will now be subject to a 40% tax AFTER the corporations’ profits have already been taxed at 35%. When I took economics courses at university the consequences of tax policies, their impact on private sector capital and by extension employment and GDP were taught straightforward without any taint of partisnship. What must they be teaching now, twenty years later, when the people running the country are claiming THIS TIME we’ll get a different result by squeezing the private economy to engorge the public sector. Capital gains tax amounts to a double tax as well, an enormous disincentive for risktakers to invest.

Leftist activist economists (”-ist-ist-ists”) rewrite very well settled, previously incontrovertible, economic theory just like leftists rewrite history and judicial intent behind statutes and contitutions. The Nazis were famous for this sort of thing.

Thanks for the post.


12 posted on 02/14/2012 2:41:12 PM PST by fire and forget
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"...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security... - DOI, 1776

The founding fathers told us what to do in situations like we are now facing.

13 posted on 02/14/2012 2:49:17 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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Set off the claxons, go to defcon 1 and fire.


14 posted on 02/14/2012 2:55:40 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: BenLurkin

GOSH, that’s so... “***unexpected***”


15 posted on 02/14/2012 2:59:01 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: molson209

That’s the downside of his somehow miraculously losing in 2012—you know he’d be back for another term as soon as they could steal another election.


16 posted on 02/14/2012 3:13:13 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: BenLurkin
News from the future: Companies stop paying dividends again. Use stock buybacks to drive up stock prices to reward shareholders. (just like the last time there was a huge difference between top dividend tax rates and capital gains rates)
17 posted on 02/14/2012 3:21:56 PM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Mouton

I am waiting for a majority of the country to join me over here at insufferable. The wait is aweful lonesome.


18 posted on 02/14/2012 3:28:43 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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BRAINJAR
19 posted on 02/14/2012 3:39:52 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: molson209

I was always taught....”Never say never”....


20 posted on 02/14/2012 3:41:01 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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