Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible"

Reuters ^ | Samuel P. Jacobs

[hinckley buzzard]

Although Rick is correct about Obama, he is coming off as a Preacher, not a Candidate for President. We know what he means, but the average Voter only knows the Media interpretation of what he said.

Word.

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

Look at his campaign website. Just take a look.

I am a social conservative. I applaud Rick's stands in those arenas. I don't shrink from it. But you ask me to go to Rick's website. OK. I did. (And I would be willing to be that I have been on his website far more than you have.) Others who go will find out that Rick is more than just a social conservatives. Among the issues that some might contend fall primarily outside of that realm, here is some of what I found:

Unleashing America's Domestic Energy America’s energy policy is critical to our national security and economic growth. Dependence upon foreign sources of oil limits our national security options, undermines our interests, and raises the cost of doing business in America. Unfortunately, President’s Obama’s approach has facilitated foreign dependence by restricting oil and gas drilling, making it more difficult to get nuclear permits, and picking winners and losers through failed pet energy projects. We must employ a policy that makes energy more affordable, makes our nation more secure by lessening dependence on unreliable or adversarial foreign sources, and increases conservation through efficient use and diverse energy sources. An effective energy policy will expand economic development and create high-quality jobs, resulting in a strong economy for America’s families and workers. It is time to get serious about unleashing America’s domestic energy sources. Read More ...

Immigration Reform: Securing And Strengthing America As the son of an Italian immigrant, Rick Santorum values the important role immigrants have played and continue to play in shaping our nation. One thing that makes America exceptional is that anyone from any part of the world can become an American by embracing our ideals and following our laws. Moving forward, America needs fair and robust immigration policy that will continue to protect Americans, reward lawful citizens, and help grow our economy. Rick Santorum believes that the key to a strong immigration policy begins with securing the American border. For America to grow and prosper, developing a strong immigration policy must become a priority. Unfortunately, President Obama has not only failed to reform America’s broken immigration system, he has also failed to secure the border against serious threats that imperil all Americans. His first visit to the border was two and a half years into his term; not exactly border first. Read More ...

ObamaRegs Versus Freedom Healthy families and a strong economy go hand in hand, each reinforcing the other. Now more than ever before, the size and scope of federal regulation threatens the ability of Americans to create goods, provide services, and choose the household products that best suit their needs. Federal regulations extend to every aspect of modern American life, so it’s certainly no surprise that they have a very high cost for American families, including those in South Carolina Read More ...

Appointing Constitutionalist Justices and Judges Who Refuse to Legislate from the Bench Rick Santorum is no stranger to the issue of judges. As a U.S. Senator, he stood against activist judicial nominees time and again. As a Republican leader in the Senate, he was pivotal in the fight to confirm U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito. Rick Santorum knows what it is like to take on the left and to win on judges. He is the only Republican Candidate for President to have done so. In addition, in 2004 when activist judges sought to legislate from the bench and redefine marriage, Rick spearheaded the debate in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment. When the Partial Birth Abortion law was improperly struck down by the Supreme Court, he led the charge in Congress to send it back to them to get it right which they did the second time, ending a horrific procedure. He believes that the time has come to break up the 9th Circuit and send a message that judicial activism is not acceptable and to provide other Western states appellate judges that better reflect their values and the U.S. Constitution. Read More ...

Defending 2nd Amendment Rights Coming from Pennsylvania, a state with a rich heritage of hunting and fishing, Senator Santorum understands firsthand the importance of preserving our constitutionally protected rights found in the 2nd Amendment. Senator Santorum fights to preserve this tradition, and will work to ensure these rights are not infringed upon. As a Senator, Rick Santorum opposed frivolous lawsuits against the gun industry by supporting legislation (The Protection of Lawful Commerce Act) that would protect law abiding firearms manufacturers and dealers from frivolous lawsuits attempting to hold them liable for criminal acts of third parties. Read More ...

Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with Patient-Centered Healthcare Every American should have access to high-quality, affordable health care, with health care decisions made by patients and their physicians, NOT government bureaucrats America needs targeted, market-driven, patient-centered solutions to address the costs and underlying causes of being uninsured rather than a one-size fits-all, government-run health care system Read More ...

Spending Cuts and Entitlements Reform Reining in Spending and Reforming Government Entitlements for Sustainable and Better Solutions for America’s Families and Future Read More ...

Response To Iran President Barack Obama naively and cavalierly once declared Iran as a “tiny country” that did not pose a serious threat. However, this week’s report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) now shows that these radical Islamists are on the verge of having a nuclear weapon. If Barack Obama has taught us anything, it’s that experience matters. Rick Santorum has that experience – serving 8 years on Senate Armed Services Committee, authoring the Iran Freedom and Support Act in 2004 and the Syrian Accountability Act. In fact, Rick Santorum has recognized the looming threat of Iran’s nuclear ambitions for nearly a decade – standing tall against both Republicans and Democrats who have discounted and dismissed the reality that this radical theocracy is intent on destroying Israel and western civilization. Read More ...

Defender of the Taxpayer Rick Santorum believes that to have a strong economy, we must have strong families – because the family is the first economy. Our government must recognize this and create an environment for our families, our small businesses, and our communities to thrive. Senator Santorum believes we are a land of opportunity where all Americans have the chance to rise on their own merits and hard work. Sadly, President Obama has done just the opposite by using class warfare to divide America and limit opportunity for all. Rick Santorum is committed to reviving our economy, restoring economic growth, and creating jobs in America again by unleashing innovation and entrepreneurship through lower and simpler taxes for American businesses, workers, and families. He also will roll back job killing regulations, restrain our spending by living within our means, and unleash our domestic manufacturing and energy potential. His vision for America is to restore America's greatness through promotion of freedom and opportunity for all. This is just the start. A plan made in America to promote America’s families and prosper its businesses. Read More ...

Believer in American Exceptionalism Rick Santorum understands that the events of September 11, 2001 brought to our front door the uncomfortable truth that attacks on our soil are not merely a distant possibility, but a harsh reality. To combat this threat, Rick refused to back down from those who wish to destroy America. Rick Santorum understands that those who wish to destroy America do so because they hate everything we are – a land of freedom, a land of prosperity, a land of equality. Rick knows that backing down to the Jihadists means that we are only putting our foundational principles at greater risk. As an elected representative, Rick knew that his greatest responsibility was to protect the freedoms we enjoy – and we should not apologize for holding true to these principles. Read More ...

10 Steps to Promote Our Interests Around the World … In too many places, we have let allies across the world down, and we have given enemies cause to doubt our resolve. Much of this stems from a political leadership that has serious and systemic doubts about America’s role in the world and the purpose of our moral authority in it. “Leading from behind” is the phrase one of the president’s own advisers recently used to describe the president’s foreign-policy approach. It couldn’t be more apt. It’s an approach that views America not as an exceptional leader but, rather, as just one more country in the sea of nations, not intrinsically better or worse than any other nation, not intrinsically better prepared to lead than any other nation. It is an abdication. Read More ...

[Colofornian]

(Me): "Santorum elected to cover this angle (at least for today) -- and you critiqued him for it."

(You) You darn right I did. That's a valid political critique. You still have not cited an example of me attacking his religious convictions.

Mariner...what if I said to you:

Mariner elected to cover this supposedly "negative" angle about Santorum (at least for today)
-- focusing on Santorum speaking theologically re: his political foe --
...& Mariner got critiqued for posting this (???)

Mariner...it seems to me...that the critiques aimed at you on this thread come from a well-integrated posture of theo-political.

Posters aren't simply reacting negatively only to your political comments, but rather your seeming worldview of how theology & politics apparently don't mix in your eyes.

So, just as the critiques coming your way aren't "hermetically sealed" as only conveying political campaign priorities, I would surmise that your critique of Santorum comes across as a similar mixture...IOW, it, indeed appears to be based from a political-theological admixture.

(I'm certainly willing to listen to you tell a different tale...since I don't know you all that well)

I'm simply being forthright on how your comments have come across...

For example, had Santorum spent a few seconds mentioning something you deem as less vital on the campaign trail...
-- say, unhealthy recipes being used by the White House cooks...
...While I perhaps could see how you might post a thread 'bout that, I'm not sure you would be so vested in critiquing Santorum's "recipe comment" to the point that you would launch 15 posts about that in a little over an hour!

Recipe comments couldn't be that much of a target, could it?

Oh, and just to be sure that I'm not guilty myself of downplaying theology, surely, Mariner, we could agree that God and what God values ranks a bit more consideration than "trivial" White House recipes. Does He not?

Other than that...See my tagline Q

[BereanBrain]

So you don’t like Santorum — who do you suggest?

[Christie at the beach]

>And many of those will be Republican women.

You got that right. I know 6 of them in my family alone.

It will turn out to be the election about HIM, not about the REFORMS that we NEED. He does not have the "it" factor.

[4rcane]

obama can say his agenda is based on bible
but its not okay for others to point out that its not?

[anglian]

ROTFL! Rick's campaign speech. "Rick Santorum believes that the key to a strong immigration policy begins with securing the American border. For America to grow and prosper, developing a strong immigration policy must become a priority.' In a January 24, 2011 interview, Sen. Santorum said the United States is in need of more foreign workers. “I do think we need more people coming to this nation who want to be Americans to grow this economy. You want to fix the Social Security problem? Let’s have more workers producing and helping out the situation.... For me, I’m willing to allow increased immigration to this country...”

[suijuris]

Santorum is an idiot for getting into this... another red herring issue. Sorry, but he is not presidential timber.

[Kickass Conservative]

I really haven't done much commenting about Rick Santorum.
Either he or Newt would be an vast improvement over Obama. Romney would be a placeholder who would be blamed along with the Republican Party when it all collapses. He would just usher in another Liberal Democrat POTUS in 2016.

There's a reason Mitt didn't run for reelection as Governor of MA, and his Lieutenant Governor paid the price when he went for the Office instead. And yes, I know Santorum’s reelection record as a Senator.

Managing the decline is how Newt put it, and he was right on. That would be one of the best lines to use against Obama in the Campaign, except Newt would have to point out that Obama expanded the decline as well.

Newt is numero uno for me and Santorum is a far second.

FR Posters have no problem with Rick telling the truth about Obama, but FR Posters do not make up a majority of the Electorate either.

I like to say I Preach to the Choir but the Pews are empty. Outside of FR, I believe that's true. My Faith is the only thing that will get me through this Election.

Like an Asteroid, Obama being reelecting is a Planet Killing Event.

[Apollo5600]

Of course, listening to Santorum, you’re going to more likely hear about the stuff in his top Pornography article long before you’ll hear anything about energy independence or much else.

And once you get to actual policies on social security, tax reform, etc... well, you don’t get to much that hasn’t been offered before by previous campaigns in this country.

You have to come to the realization that the family stuff has a far too huge a role in his platform, and that it is covering up legitimate questions and doubts about his platform. Namely, that he doesn’t have a strong tax or anti-entitlement platform at all, amongst many other things he doesn’t even begin to discuss.

We see all these policy discussions with Newt Gingrich for half an hour or longer, just talking policy, answering questions, offering ideas.

How come whenever I see a speech by Santorum, it’s talking about family, unity, the American way, religion, blah blah blah, but we never really get a whole lot on actual policies or debating those policies or analysis of those policies compared to his opponents?

The sooner you understand the answer to that question, the sooner you’ll realize why I get so ticked off listening to this guy preach all the dang time.

[Mariner]

Thank you for your fair and reasoned critique, which this time was without name calling.

I understand that many join the moral and political as one.

[bramps]

If Santorum brings out this kind of dissension on a conservative website, he doesn't have a chance of winning the all important independent vote and would get ruined in the general election.

[Mariner]

"If Santorum brings out this kind of dissension on a conservative website, he doesn't have a chance of winning the all important independent vote and would get ruined in the general election. "

According to CNN poll last Tuesday Romney leads Santorum among GOP women by 9 points.

[bramps]

GOP women by 9 points.

---

note: I said the ‘independent vote.’

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

We see all these policy discussions with Newt Gingrich for half an hour or longer, just talking policy, answering questions, offering ideas.

Rick held more than 400 town hall meetings in Iowa alone. And these weren't the Michele Bachmann hit and run type, where she appeared in order to log a county on the list the week before the election. Word is that these meetings typically lasted for an hour or two and Rick stayed until all questions were answered.

In the years since he lost his last Senate race, he wrote a weekly article called "The Elephant in the Room". Rick has spoken or written at length about a multitude of issues. He hasn't been hiding anything.

You don't like Rick. We get it. You probably don't like some of the things that he is emphasizing. We get that, too.

[Colofornian]

Have you even read his web page? (Mariner, post #74)

(ME to Mariner & Apollo5600) Prove it that this [His comments about THEOLOGY & VALUES] is a full-blown “campaign”...and if you can’t, then you & Mariner need to reconsider the gossip straw men you so easily toss around.“

(Apollo5600): Yes I can. Look at his campaign website. What are the first “Issues” on his positions page? I’ll give you a hint. It’s about pornography. The next one is about his grandpa and being a coal miner and believing in America and blah blah blah.Now compare that to the campaign website of Herman Cain, or Newt Gingrich, or the former website of Rick Perry. What difference do you see here?

In post #82, engraved-on-his-hands posted 11 of the 18 issues on Santorum's Web site issues page...and there's OTHER issues on the front page that are "roving" -- including a couple of energy issues. (You, Apollo5600, reduced his Web site to simply opposing porn & coal miner stuff...rather pathetic attempt @ dismissal, IMA)

And 'tis even more pathetic that you deem porn as only a theological-based issue (remember, THEOLOGY WAS the umbrella issue under discussion). I guess those less theologically focused feminists who oppose porn aren't allowed to do that for less-than-theological motivations, eh, Apollo?

And if THEOLOGY was so much at the "forefront" (a term used by Mariner TWICE now to describe Santorum's theological focus), tell us Mariner, why is "Faith & Families" #15 on a list of 18 things on the issues page of his Web site? Shouldn't it be -- to fulfill your misguided caracature -- #1?

And why does most of that discuss his "family" (rather than his faith) before it shifts to pro-life content tucked away in those 2 short graphs?

Do EITHER you care to PROVE your straw-man contention that Santorum has built some elaborate prominent theological campaign that's at the daily "forefront?" Or do you always go around ruining your credibility as well as forfeiting your integrity with such statements?

And Mariner, since your rabbit-trail reference on post #74 doesn't defend your comments on post #47, my challenge in post #70 still holds. Please address it, lest you also assume a reputation of doing cartwheels to avoid your increasing tag of being one our leading FReeper strawmen-constructors.

Here...let me try to help you both out:

..On #17 of that 18-point site list, I did find this one theologically-derived line buried in his pro-American exceptionalism stance: "Rick knows that backing down to the Jihadists means that we are only putting our foundational principles at greater risk."

Yup! You got it! EVERY reference to Jihad & Jihadists made by politicians & journalists & posters alike is indeed a reference to a theology! (Well, at least a theology as promoted by Muslims & their Quran!)

But I suppose if Rick mentions too much about Muslim theology by mere reference of the word "jihadist" or "jihad" we'll get continued knee-jerk reactions from both of you (+ Hinckley Buzzard) on how Santorum should discuss other matters than words rooted in somebody's "theology." (God forbid God gets ANY mention in these campaigns!)

[Toespi]

It is not a matter of not liking Santorum. We are in desperate trouble and I do not believe he is articulate enough to go toe to toe with obama. I also do not think he is qualified to lead this nation. I do believe Newt Gingrich meets every criteria and more to take on this crisis and win not just the election but our future.

[jazzpatriot]

I don’t think Santorum is incorrect when he says Obama’s theology is not based on the Bible, but it’s difficult to know what he was referring to specifically. Was he referring to his association with the strange, anti-American theology preached to him by his mentor, the Rev Wrong for over 20 years. I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is referring to the fact that liberals like Obama always think redistribution of income is the essence of morality. They never can grasp the point that biblical injunctions for being your brother’s keeper and helping the poor have to do with individuals not governments. If that is what he is saying he is not preaching his religious beliefs but genuine conservatism which is the message that all our candidates must be focusing on if we have any hope of defeating Obama

http:jazzpatriot.blogspot.com

[westmichman]

Like I said in a previous post, those that are that easily swayed by the media will be swayed by them against any candidate we put forward.

[ncalburt]

Ron Paul nutter
Who are fooling with the Reagan angle !
Your hatred of Rick S and his faith is beyond twisted !
You peddle non stop left wing attacks from the left coast