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British doctors endorse radical solutions to organ shortage
BioEdge ^
| 2/18/12
| Michael Cook
Posted on 02/19/2012 12:27:32 PM PST by wagglebee
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Elective ventilation was criticised by Professor Nadey Hakim, of Hammersmith Hospital, as "bizarre and unethical". "It's not ethical keeping someone alive," he said. "They're brain dead and you have to remember there's a family next door in tears. I find it bizarre that the BMA wants to push for something so unpopular. This is how we kill any desire for people to become donors." And the solution will be to make donation mandatory.
The "Brave New World" is here and it's horrifying.
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02/19/2012 12:27:43 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:28:30 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:29:27 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:30:47 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:31:53 PM PST
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narses
To: wagglebee
“Among the measures it proposes are:
Elective ventilation: keeping patients alive solely so they can become organ donors,
Retrieving hearts from newborn disabled babies,
Using body parts from high-risk donors including the elderly, people with cancer, drug users and people with high-risk sexual behaviour.”
If this were the plot outline for a horror movie, the critics would be laughing at the absurdity.
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:35:47 PM PST
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WilliamofCarmichael
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To: wagglebee
OMG. How scary. And people snub their noses at me when I tell them NO WAY IN HELL would I sign my name on my driver’s license or put in my will that I want to be an organ donor.
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:39:06 PM PST
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peggybac
To: wagglebee
Next thing they will be “suggesting” that organs be retrieved from living prisoners, starting with people on death row ... with the application of pressure and sufficient time, all convicted felons will be candidates for “ventilation!”
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02/19/2012 12:40:48 PM PST
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Ken522
To: wagglebee
Dear God, wagglebee, I was afraid to read he article and I was right.
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02/19/2012 12:41:42 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:42:21 PM PST
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Using body parts from high-risk donors including the elderly, people with cancer, drug users and people with high-risk sexual behaviour.A few years ago, there was an organ harvesting scandal in New York/New Jersey region.
Funeral homes were harvesting organs and body parts for transplants.
Probably the most famous person who had parts harvested was Alistar Cook,who died of cancer.
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:43:10 PM PST
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mware
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To: onyx
Retrieving hearts from newborn babies is still an experimental procedure. Life support would be withdrawn from disabled children and their heart would be removed about 75 seconds after it stopped beating. This is INFANTICIDE!
And just wait until someone decides to start removing organs from adults with disabilities.
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02/19/2012 12:43:22 PM PST
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wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
But I expect that views will gradually change.The horrible evils are accelerating.
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02/19/2012 12:43:59 PM PST
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little jeremiah
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To: wagglebee
A careful explanation of the way in which death is diagnosed will be needed and an explanation that a heart that has stopped beating can be restarted after the person has died and used for transplantation. That begs the question of why the heart isn't restarted while it is in its owner's chest, instead of removing it to restart it in someone else's chest.
I still fail to see the rationale behind organ transplantation. When a person is so ill that their organs are failing, perhaps it's time for them to say goodbye, instead of hoping and praying for a healthy person to die so they can get the organs? As immoral as it is merely to hope for another person to die, isn't it far worse to hasten another person's death in order to harvest their organs?
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02/19/2012 12:46:47 PM PST
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02/19/2012 12:48:32 PM PST
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mware
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To: little jeremiah
Protesting the policy will move you to the top of the list
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:51:52 PM PST
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driftdiver
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To: Ken522
“Next thing they will be suggesting that organs be retrieved from living prisoners, starting with people on death row ... with the application of pressure and sufficient time, all convicted felons will be candidates for ventilation!
Wait until new organs can actually extend a persons life beyond a normal lifespan. Larry Niven talked about this in some of his sci-fi, and not in a good way. From wiki:
...the problem led to a repressive society almost unrecognizable by todays standards. Since the average citizens wished to extend their lives, the world government sought to increase the supply by using condemned criminals to supply the organ banks. When this failed to meet the demand, citizens would vote for the death penalty for more and more trivial crimes. First violent crimes, then theft, tax evasion, false advertising, and even traffic violations became punishable by the organ banks.
He was talking about organ legging back in the late 60s.
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:54:54 PM PST
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Ransomed
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These are the end times for Dewey Crowe.
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posted on
02/19/2012 12:55:55 PM PST
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gusty
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