Posted on 02/19/2012 5:33:17 PM PST by John W
JERUSALEM — The U.S. and Britain on Sunday urged Israel not to attack Iran's nuclear program as the White House's national security adviser arrived in the region, reflecting growing international jitters that the Israelis are poised to strike.
In their warnings, both the U.S. joint chiefs of staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, and British Foreign Minister William Hague said an Israeli attack on Iran would have grave consequences for the entire region and urged Israel to give international sanctions against Iran more time to work. Dempsey said an Israeli attack is "not prudent," and Hague said it would not be "a wise thing."
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That's not going to happen. You've heard of the Samson Option?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1]
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Real Americans urge Israel to flip 0 the bird and do whatever is necessary for her survival.
Nobody in their right mind would seek out war, but when the situation presents itself and there is no alternative outside of surrendering my freedom, I would put emotions behind me and take the appropriate course of action, even if it means millions of “innocents” will have to die.
That is the point I was trying to get across. If Iran has to be wiped off the face of the planet, so be it. I hope it doesn’t come down to it, but it seems to be inevitable (War in the ME with Iran as the focal point).
Sanctions will not deter the Iranians. Russia, and to a lesser extent China, have decided to help enable this situation in the Middle East, and their motives are neither benign nor wisely calculated, IMO.
This whole situation has a high probability of spiraling out of control when the dance starts.
I don’t have any objection to any country destroying any missile sent its way.
My objection is twofold:
1. I don’t want Americans involved in an Israel-Iran war
2. There ARE innocent little ones with the misfortune of living in Iran, and those who embrace the video games view of “yeah, let’s turn all of Iran into a flaming pit!” are voluntarily selling their souls on a very unholy altar.
Destroying a missile coming your way isn't going to be enough. Annihilating an aggressor is my preferred response to such an attack, and if it includes innocents that is regrettable, but perhaps unavoidable.
Israel is an ally, and when Iran starts the dance, I absolutely want America to join the fight. To leave Israel on its own in such a situation would be wrong, period.
If Israel is nuked, I would have no problem ordering all of the major cities in Iran nuked in retaliation.
Let's hope this does not come to pass.
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."
That quote speaks for itself.
To be honest this run up to another war; the fact that it puts such irrational beliefs on the front burner; and creates the potential that the outcome could cause the destruction of humankind; should concern every member of the human race and of every country.
Those who are permitted to possess nukes must possess first of all, an empathy and understanding and overriding responsibility to all of humankind, and not just to the desires of their own nation. The destruction of the world is bigger than the destruction of any nation.
If a single nation does not grasp that our global society, Mother Nature, the Earth, and survival of all of humanity must supersede the irrational whims of any single nation, that nation should not legitimately possess nukes. This is not about politics or other beliefs, it is about the survival of humankind.
We have three problems when it comes to war.
1. Too many Americans have never served. That’s because we have a volunteer military and only they and their families sacrifice.
2. Americans don’t pay for war either, except as an abstract complaint that our debt is too great.
3. Hollywood video games make war sound like fun just as intended.
We need to focus, reduce our debt, rebuild the USA, and tell other countries to deal with their own problems and sacrifice their own and as George Washington said - eliminate entangling alliances.
Americans have been sacrificing for 10 years and it is more than enough. If Israel wants to sacrifice their citizens and IDF then go for it. I do not support the USA getting involved period. If Israel goes nuts and nukes and destroys the world’s oil supply, then they will face the massive consequences of negative USA and world public opinion as they should. Owning nukes means having responsibility and not a hair trigger.
And, if Iran obtains nuclear weapon capability, then what?
It would be nice if the Iranian people rose up and replaced the Islamist regime, but they have not. It would be nice if the Islamist regime in Tehran stopped developing nukes, but they have not. The question then is will the west pre-empt and Iranian nuclear attack, or will we turn Iran to glass after an Israeli or American city is nuked. Preventing an Iranian bomb will cost a few hundred civilian lives to save millions. Those seeking peace at all cost are no getter than genocidal loons, just stuck in a different pathology.
You do know that Iran wants to destroy the “Great Satan”, American, right? Thus Israel’s fight is our fight.
As for your next post, why would Israel nuke the worlds oil supply? What planet do you live on?
I'm more hopeful that sanctions will work, although I know that the support from Russia and China makes it a great deal less likely. Or, as has been suggested elsewhere on this thread, sanctions and negotiations might spin things out a bit longer, more time for the covert action combat teams of the world to take out the Iranian nuclear potential. That's not as good as a peaceful settlement, but anything that works.
The White House is not being shelled on a daily basis.
Neither is the British Parliment.
The White House is not being shelled on a daily basis.
Neither is the British Parliment.
The White House is not being shelled on a daily basis.
Neither is the British Parliment.
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