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This is What a President Looks Like
Townhall.com ^ | February 21, 2012 | John Ransom

Posted on 02/20/2012 7:52:28 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/20/2012 7:52:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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Lincoln certainly did not waffle on the question of whether it’s constitutionally permissible for states to abandon the union. But some rednecks (and I say to all rednecks: be proud of that neck) and Southrons [sic] even yet beg to disagree with what went down. The fact that chattel slavery based on kidnapped slaves and racial bigotry was heavily tied up in the economies of a lot of the South doesn’t make them look all that good (and I would wholeheartedly agree with theologians who aver that the South was cruising for a divine bruising on that matter and that the Civil War was probably it), but Lincoln being less than totally altruistic didn’t free the Northern slaves together with the Southern ones but waited. It is a checkered history. Still, it’s sad that the Republican party in the Land of Lincoln is a faint shadow of its old idealistic self.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 8:01:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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and today SNL would be doing skits on how ugly he was...The MSM would be doing story after story on his crazy wife....and he would never win


3 posted on 02/20/2012 8:04:25 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Moonman62

The Civil War certainly became a bigger issue than just “quit shooting and give us back the Federal property and then go your way in peace.”

Fremont was a child molester... who knew.


5 posted on 02/20/2012 8:18:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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Lincoln being less than totally altruistic didn’t free the Northern slaves together with the Southern ones

But he did try to promote a plan of compensated emancipation in the Union slave states which was rejected.

6 posted on 02/20/2012 8:22:13 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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and today SNL would be doing skits on how ugly he was...The MSM would be doing story after story on his crazy wife....and he would never win

True, but consider this really odd coincidence: somebody has decided that Abraham Lincoln would make for a good action hero and they are spending a lot of money to do so:

Abraham Lincoln : Vampire Hunter

Official Trailer (released last week)

Comes out in June of this year. Seems silly as hell, but they are making it serious. Johnny Cash's spoken Revelation bit from 'The Man Comes Around' in the the trailer helps sell it.

I loathe Fox and anything associated with Rupert Murdoch, but I'm going to have to see this one on opening weekend.
7 posted on 02/20/2012 8:23:00 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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Sounds better than Twilight


8 posted on 02/20/2012 8:30:28 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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I disagree with the characterization of Lincoln as “humble.” People of great intellect are never really humble. For example, Lincoln was once asked about why he almost never read newspaper accounts of the war. His answer was along the lines of “Why should I? I know more than they do.”

I think that in Lincoln’s case the humble bit was a clever political ploy.


9 posted on 02/20/2012 8:33:18 PM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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When I cry for this nation which is our “Constitution and Bill of Rights”, Mr Lincoln tops that list. The loss of states rights has done as much damage as allowing people to vote who do not pay taxes. Lincoln was not a great President. Not even close. He nearly destroyed the greatest nation God has allowed to exist in 1865. Today the absence of states rights may still doom us and will be the scumbag Lincoln's true legacy.
10 posted on 02/20/2012 8:46:03 PM PST by liberty or death
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Lincoln nearly destroyed the Union?

What do you think would’ve happened if the Confederacy had succeeded?

France almost conquered Mexico in 1863 (cinco de Mayo) as it was.

North America would look just like South America, a collection of poverty-stricken 3rd world hell-holes. None of us would even be here now.


11 posted on 02/20/2012 8:54:45 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Moonman62

Ouch!


12 posted on 02/20/2012 8:55:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: liberty or death

It was the 16th and 17th Amendments more than all else combined that eviscerated states rights.


13 posted on 02/20/2012 9:00:37 PM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: OldPossum

Sounds to me like he was just telling the truth. He WOULD know more about the war than the press.


14 posted on 02/20/2012 9:06:44 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Sounds like a great double-bill with Iron Sky, if it could be arranged.

I’d escape reality for long afternoon or evening to see those.


15 posted on 02/20/2012 9:18:48 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Sounds to me like he was just telling the truth.

Lincoln spent many, many hours in the telegraph office in Washington getting the latest info from his commanders in the field. There was very little the press could have added.

16 posted on 02/20/2012 9:18:48 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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Our generation's Lincoln
17 posted on 02/20/2012 9:30:08 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Thank you. A nice read on President’s Day.


18 posted on 02/20/2012 9:35:29 PM PST by starsstripesflags
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It was the 16th and 17th Amendments more than all else combined that eviscerated states rights.
Exactly! Enacted by President Woodrow Wilson!
19 posted on 02/20/2012 9:39:22 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: OldPossum

I disagree that “people of great intellect” are “never really humble.” I think intellects have their fair share of pompous asses and salt of the earth people just like every other group or category of folks out there.


20 posted on 02/20/2012 9:42:39 PM PST by starsstripesflags
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