Posted on 02/23/2012 12:40:00 PM PST by wrrock
New revelations that Republican rising star Senator Marco Rubio was a Mormon as a child may create a major obstacle for his political future.
Viewed by many as a likely- and popular- vice presidential candidate in the upcoming elections, the admission that Mr Rubio was an active and enthusiastic Mormon from ages 8 to 13 may hinder his chances because of the negative connotation many conservatives have with the religion.
And, if Mitt Romney- who is arguably the country’s best known Mormon- wins the nomination, Mr Rubio’s chances of being put on the ticket are slashed even further.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Obama was born into Islam, and converted to Christianity at age 27.
And what you’re doing isn’t hypocritical? You can’t say what religion Obama was raised in is important but what religion Rubio was raised in isn’t. Both are important. These are a person’s formative years and it may have relevance as to what their world view is. Since it’s often impossible to trust what a politician says, it’s important to know all the verifiable facts about them that we can.
27, yikes.
Amazing isn't it Kenny. This appears a tactic like running McCain, to provide cover for Obama. We have learned that precedent doesn't mean much, seeing that judges can make up nonsense while ignoring Minor v Happersett, precedent confirming the common law. Both parties are complicit, and Ron Paul is a distraction. He has deliberately avoided addressing Constitutional eligibility, and will let Israel destroy the Middle East by itself if it must, to survive.
The law is so clear, and the avoidance so clear, that it is also clear that government of, by and for the people is a myth. What appears a political process is a distraction for the proletariat.
I think you misunderstood. When I said “it didn’t matter because it was so long ago” I was referring to the fact that the press said that about Obama in 2008. I am not being hypocritical at all. I am saying it either matters in both instances or it matters in neither, I didn’t state an opinion on that. My point is that it either matters/doesn’t in BOTH cases. It can’t matter for one and not matter for the other.
-PJ
Finally, an explanation for his tremendously misguided love of all things Romney.
You must have never worked with or come across any Lutherans.
No wonder he quit. Cuban coffee is just too intoxicating to avoid. Anybody else out there ever drink Cuban coffee? And for that reason you will find few Cuban Mormons.
According to YOU. If any such case were brought before the Supremes, it would be LAUGHED out of court within minutes. There are only TWO types of citizens: Natural Born and Naturalized. No make believe third type.
This is a big to do over nothing. Who is behind this crap: Liberals or the GOP establishment?
What, you mean you haven’t seen all those attacks on Christian religion by the Mormons??? Calling it false, etc?
Me either.
And then there is this:
WALTER RUSSELL MEAD: Mormon Theocracy Meme Debunked.
Bigotry is bad; how hard is that to remember?
Apparently, very hard for a lot of American liberals who have allowed their dislike and suspicion of Republican politics to lower their defenses against cheap and ugly religious bigotry. Nasty, ill-founded slanders against alleged Mormon plans for theocracy are spewing forth from news organizations and writers who, when the better angels of their nature are more fully in control, recognize the vicious and evil nature of religious bigotry in other contexts.
Well Walter, that’s not just coming from liberals, I hate to have to tell you.
Disclosure: I don’t and won’t support Romney. My reasons for non-support are not related to his Mormonism, that’s all. There are plenty of political reasons to not support Mitt Romney.
Rubio actually enthusiastically endorsed Huck (as far from Mormonism as you can get) OVER Romney in 2008.
And endorsed no one since Huck decided not to run this cycle.
The DOpiest thing about this article is that who the hell at the age of 8 has any real knowledge of specific religious doctrine? I mean I remember at that age asking my father why they were always talking about “parties” on the radio and tube and he had to explain to me about political parties not being the same as birthday parties.
Please.
On the other hand, we have someone who had an atheist mother, a muslim father, a muslim step-father, non-practicing Christian grandparents, spent 20 years in a Black Liberation Theology church and describes himself simply as "Christian". There are a million questions to be asked here and no one seems to be interested in the answers.
Incorrect. Santorum is a practicing Catholic. Rubio is not unless he reverted in the last 18 months.
Whether or not Mr/Ms Comix is an Obot, though the allusion to ridicule -"LAUGHED" - is a strong hint of "Obot", don't be confused. We will keep trying to clarify while telling the truth doesn't put us in reeducation camps. There are just two classes of citizen, as Comix says, and Mr. Rubio is a naturalized citizen. It was a statute, a naturalization law, that made Rubio a citizen. The law originated in Congress, and was ratified as an amendment, but an amendment that never mentioned natural born citizenship, citizenship based upon natural law, whether cited by Vattel, Grotius, Pufendorf, Bynkershoek, Locke, Wolff, Leibniz, Cicero, or Aristotle. Chief Justice Marshall thought Vattel's definition was the most concise, and cited in The Venus, 12 U.S. 253. Here is one of the most clear declarations of the common-law definition, but with no citations, because Chief Justice Waite fixed the definition as precedent, to be "held" by subsequent courts. Remember, there are essentially no definitions is the Constitution. The Constitution was written to be understandable by literate citizens, and depended upon the common language and law at the time of its framers.
Here is Chief Justice Morrison Waite explaining who are natural born citizens, and pointing out that there were many doubts about who were the naturalized citizens, just enabled by the 14th Amendment ratified less than ten years before Minor v. Happersett. Just try to follow who is a citizen to see that naturalization has always been a moving target. But natural born citizenship has never been altered, and Congress has no authority to interpret Supreme Court or Constitutional definitions:
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
Being a Mormon is only a negative when it applies to a conservative. When it is applied to a RINO, it is a badge of honor.
?????????
Romney certainly gets a lot of grief for being a Mormon, so if he's the RINO you're talking about, you're wrong.
Harry Reid doesn't get any trouble from the media for being Mormon. Neither did the Udalls. But I doubt anyone's pinning a medal on them for that.
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