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US troops could face disciplinary action over Qur'an burning in Afghanistan
the guardian ^ | 3/3/2012 | staff

Posted on 03/03/2012 6:00:24 AM PST by tobyhill

At least five US military personnel could face a disciplinary review following the burning of copies of the Qur'an by American soldiers in Afghanistan.

A joint investigation by senior Afghan and US military officials has concluded that although mistakes were made when troops at Bagram airbase, near Kabul, had burned copies of the Qur'an and other religious literature along with piles of waste paper, there was no intent to desecrate the Islamic religious texts.

A western official said the investigation could lead to a disciplinary review of at least five US military personnel involved.

But a different panel appointed by the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, to investigate the incident, has concluded that the burning of the holy books was deliberate.

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1 posted on 03/03/2012 6:00:26 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

I’d pin a Bronze Star on each one of them for eliminating the how-to manual for a 7th Century death cult.


2 posted on 03/03/2012 6:02:25 AM PST by twister881
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To: tobyhill

Every one of them should request a court martial by JURY. Not a damn one would be found guilty.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 6:04:11 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: tobyhill

Throw the UCMJ at ‘em - assign all of them to the Pentagon for 3 years!


4 posted on 03/03/2012 6:05:56 AM PST by Ken522
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To: tobyhill

BOHICA - Outstanding Leader is now going throw our troops under the bus ! What really p!$$es me off, no other country throws their soldiers under the bus. Time to throw these self hating American authority figures out ! It is also time to keep the media out off our military operations as well.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 6:06:25 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: tobyhill

Do they really want to see US riot now?!

This is insane!!!


6 posted on 03/03/2012 6:07:45 AM PST by fwdude
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To: tobyhill

Biden will probably make a speech and name names. Then Obama will probably fly them out in a helicopter and pass along info to the taliban what the route and time of passage will be so they can shoot it down.


7 posted on 03/03/2012 6:08:56 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: tobyhill

I believe this is a bridge too far.


8 posted on 03/03/2012 6:09:01 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: tobyhill
this the stuff that could give rise to mutiny in the ranks should these soldiers stand trial of any sort. Send them home out of harms way and those remaining in war zones stand tall and act like American troops always have.
9 posted on 03/03/2012 6:09:21 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: tobyhill

WHY DON’T THEY START WITH THE TOP COMMAND WHOSE CAREERS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN STANDING UP TO THAT SON OF A BITCH IN THE white hut?


10 posted on 03/03/2012 6:11:16 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: twister881
“I’d pin a Bronze Star on each one of them for eliminating the how-to manual for a 7th Century death cult.”

Although I would give them a C- for planning, stealth, and execution. How can they not successfully get away with burning a few copies of some crapo book? When I think back to my time in the military and some of my shenanigans we pulled off right under the nose of the brass, sssssshh.

It leads me to believe these guys actually DID do this by accident. If they'd been doing it on purpose, any competent enlisted grunt should have been able to pull it off without getting caught!

11 posted on 03/03/2012 6:14:03 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: tobyhill
Ridiculous!

These Korans had already been desecrated by the scribblings of Muslim prisoners.

Obama must be loving this...another opportunity for him to trash America.

12 posted on 03/03/2012 6:15:04 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. Barack Obama: Have Algae, Pay More, Be Weird.)
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To: tobyhill
Why doesn't our PC military just turn them over to the Taliban for trial and punishment?

I am so sick of our PC-hamstrung military leadership I could scream!


13 posted on 03/03/2012 6:16:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

No different than transporting terrorists and bombs in a marked ambulance.

Or firing rockets from a mosque.

Once you do, you lose your protection.


14 posted on 03/03/2012 6:17:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

I think its unlikely that these personnel will be “officially” charged with anything. That being said, their military careers are probably toast anyway. At a minimum, a letter of reprimand will end up in their personnel records.


15 posted on 03/03/2012 6:19:28 AM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: tobyhill
More PC BS from this admin and those whom it has appointed. People down the line should be refusing to follow these insane orders should they come.

The prisoners desecrated thje Korans. They used what we should have never given them in the first place, to pass messages and make plans.

These prisoners are irregulars. They should be interrogated until we can get no more out of them, including the use of water boarding, and then summarily executed according to the Geneva convention.

That's how they should be handled and any contraband or any other rmaterial found on them out side of their US military issued clothing should be confiscated, looked at, and then burned.

Obama means to lose this war, and he means to take America down. That is and always has been his "fundmental change".

WHAT I WOULD DO AS PRESIDENT

16 posted on 03/03/2012 6:19:41 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: tobyhill

Is anyone going to face murder charges for murdering our troops? Since when a soldier’s life has become less precious than a hate-filled book?


17 posted on 03/03/2012 6:20:54 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Travis McGee
Yep.

I think this whole matter is trumped up.

Just another case in which the enemy tries to probe our defenses, damage our morale, and confuse the clarity of our prosecution of this war.

18 posted on 03/03/2012 6:21:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. Barack Obama: Have Algae, Pay More, Be Weird.)
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To: twister881

It’s a layered screw-up. Some intelligence guys find coded messages in Qur’ans being handed around the prison. They confiscate the documents, and hand them to some superior officer. The officer reviews the case, and likely assigns his chief of staff the task of getting rid of the problem. This guy probably puts them into a box and sits on the issue for months, and then his replacement gets the box. The replacement guy probably doesn’t know anything, and just assigns Private Snuffy the job of burning the items (just like the fashion that we’d dispose of an old US flag). By the time you come to the end....it’s probably six to ten folks who had some part in this whole thing. Sadly, there’s probably not a single Army regulation that clearly says what to do with coded Qur’ans.

My advice in the future.....pack all these code Qur’ans up and ship them to the nuclear storage pit out in Nevada, and just let them sit 10k years until they dissolve. It’s best way to get rid of nuclear waste and coded Qur’ans.


19 posted on 03/03/2012 6:22:37 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: RoosterRedux

And the regime sides with the enemy. Always.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 6:22:53 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Before it is over they probably will.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 6:23:17 AM PST by sport
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To: RoosterRedux

“Just another case in which the enemy tries to probe our defenses, damage our morale, and confuse the clarity of our prosecution of this war.”

The enemy has a willing partner in our muslim, creepinchief,pos, poseur president. It certainly confuses the issue of who our true enemy is.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 6:23:59 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: tobyhill

The USA has been in National Stockholm Syndrome since 9/12/2001.

And that includes a lot of our idiot leaders in D.C.


23 posted on 03/03/2012 6:25:50 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: tobyhill

Judge Says Ok to Beat Someone Attacking Islam

ZombieMuhammadLast October, atheist Ernie Perce wore a zombie Muhammad costume to a Halloween event. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, confronted Perce about his costume, told him it was offensive and then started to beat him. The attack was caught on video.

Elbayomy was arrested and charged with assault. At the trial, there was testimony presented by an officer who witnesses the attack along with the video. Judge Mark Martin, then dismissed the case against Elbayomy and lectured Perce about the sensitivities of the Muslim culture. In court, Martin told Perce,

That’s right. Judge Martin, who served in Iraq, is a convert to Islam. His own personal Islamic beliefs definitely clouded his ability to interpret US and Pennsylvania law. His decision to throw out the case basically sends a message to all Muslims in Pennsylvania that they can physically attack anyone who offends their religion....

Read at:

http://godfatherpolitics.com/3937/judge-says-ok-to-beat-someone-attacking-islam/


24 posted on 03/03/2012 6:26:23 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: tobyhill

“But a different panel appointed by the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, to investigate the incident, has concluded that the burning of the holy books was deliberate.”

Great. Radical muzzies appointed by a radical muzzie comes to a radical muzzie conclusion.

Gee, who could have seen that coming? /s


25 posted on 03/03/2012 6:27:18 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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26 posted on 03/03/2012 6:28:50 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: tobyhill

I wonder what the punishment is for burning a book? Have we really come this far?


27 posted on 03/03/2012 6:29:13 AM PST by RC2
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To: tobyhill

Obama bowing again.

What will they be charged with—illegally burning trash?


28 posted on 03/03/2012 6:29:20 AM PST by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

“I will side with the Muslims”....


29 posted on 03/03/2012 6:29:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill

They’re going to be ‘Murtha’d’.


30 posted on 03/03/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill

To those demanding punishment: pee up a rope!


31 posted on 03/03/2012 6:31:21 AM PST by Rapscallion (The best way to enforce "fairness" is tyranny. Begone Obama.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama punishes patriots to appease traitorous “allies”.

Top down treason. I can’t believe this guy is considered a remotely viable candidate, even with the weak republican field.


32 posted on 03/03/2012 6:31:47 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: freeangel
The enemy has a willing partner in our muslim, creepinchief,pos, poseur president. It certainly confuses the issue of who our true enemy is.

Absoulute true...which is why I was dumbfounded when the SOB got elected.

Western civilization has been in an existential war with Islam since the time of Mohammed.

The fact that liberals are useful idiots here is just amazing. They would be the first to die!

One thing is certain. If Islam loses this war (and they will...the only question is how much blood will be shed), Western civilization (Judeo-Christianity) will be stronger and smarter by an order of magnitude.

33 posted on 03/03/2012 6:32:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. Barack Obama: Have Algae, Pay More, Be Weird.)
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To: tobyhill
They won't be obama's first political prisoner taken with advantages towards a muslim...

LAKIN3
34 posted on 03/03/2012 6:33:41 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: tobyhill

What item in the UCMJ did they violate? Tis is the most ridicululous thing that I have heard of recently.


35 posted on 03/03/2012 6:33:59 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: pepsionice
pack all these code Qur’ans up and ship them to the nuclear storage pit out in Nevada

Let them martyr themselves retrieving their sacred texts.

36 posted on 03/03/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by Rapscallion (The best way to enforce "fairness" is tyranny. Begone Obama.)
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To: FrankR

Of course Obammy is going to be mad at the good guy who only wanted to see a $12 piece of paper - however you should put the conservative on the right and the terrorist on the left ... and flop Bammy’s head.

;)

Great graphic describing our political idiocy, though.


37 posted on 03/03/2012 6:39:55 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: tobyhill

http://www.rightsidenews.info/2012022415686/editorial/us-opinion-and-editorial/proper-koran-disposal-apologies-and-murdering-innocent-infidels-in-afghanistan.html

yeah, they shoulda coulda woulda sent those defaced books to some imam to burn in his fireplace at home


38 posted on 03/03/2012 6:47:36 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: tobyhill
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Let these Obama "asshats" do their BEST against the "gallant" American warriors ...

Bring it on, I say ...



Then let President Newt Gingrich on the FIRST day in office:

1) Pardon and EXPUNGE the military conviction of these Men ...

2) Give them a "Battlefield Promotion" to Major General ...



And here's a BONUS QUESTION for all the Free Republic supporters of Ricky (Afraid of His Own Shadow) Santorum, Willard the "Evil Anti-Christian Mormom", or Dr. Winkie (Ron Paul):

Do you think that there's a CHANCE IN HELL that your guy would EVER protect these Men ?

Never ...




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39 posted on 03/03/2012 6:51:11 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: RC2
I wonder what the punishment is for burning a book? Have we really come this far?

Well it's ok to burn a U.S. flag, so you be the judge.

40 posted on 03/03/2012 6:55:14 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: tobyhill

They may convene an Articly 32 Hearing for “Show”, but nothing will come from it.


41 posted on 03/03/2012 7:01:28 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: rbg81

I don’r agree that their careers are toast or that they will be reprimanded. There most likely will be an article 32 hearing, but that is just for political cover. The hearing will find that no violation of the UCMJ was committed and the case will be closed without prejudice.


42 posted on 03/03/2012 7:01:39 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: CORedneck

Shiite always runs down hill.


43 posted on 03/03/2012 7:03:56 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: pepsionice

I’m going to start celebrating diversity with a weekly TGIF koran-a-que.


44 posted on 03/03/2012 7:24:30 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

It ain’t illegal to burn a “Holy” Queeran unless we are under Sharia Law and nobody told us.


45 posted on 03/03/2012 7:32:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: Travis McGee

He si siding with those he has so much in common. He is a Cummunist and a socialist that has only one agenda. To bring this country to its’ knees.


46 posted on 03/03/2012 7:33:16 AM PST by Busko
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To: Ken522
Don't throw the book at them, instead send them to Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay Kāne'ohe Bay, Hawaii or to Camp H. M. Smith, Marine Corps Base Hawaii ʻAiea, Hawaii or to Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay Kāne'ohe Bay, Hawaii for a nice 3 year R & R, for having to put up with all the Bull feathers from muslimland. Semper Fidelis! and Semper Fortis!
47 posted on 03/03/2012 7:44:00 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: tobyhill

I would like to see us get our people out of this literally God-forsaken country and destroy the poppy fields in a way that nothing would grow there for a hundred years.


48 posted on 03/03/2012 7:49:07 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: tobyhill

The military (AF anyway) just got a survey on the effects of the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT). While the effects on the avearge warrior are nil so far (not enough time for the real effects to become obvious, and the survey was probably timed with this in mind), issues like punishing our warrior heroes for doing their duty is having a real demoralizing effect. $hit rolls downhill and Obam has even a bigger supply of it than Clinton did as CinC.


49 posted on 03/03/2012 7:53:15 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: tobyhill

What a way to screw the troops. Get assigned a shit detail to burn trash and get brought up on charges because of Koranimal ravings.


50 posted on 03/03/2012 7:59:20 AM PST by PogySailor (Obama is a SCOAMF)
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