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San Jose faces $3.5 billion debt for employee retirement programs
Contra Costa Times ^ | 3/3/12 | Daniel Borenstein - Staff columnist

Posted on 03/04/2012 1:37:34 PM PST by SmithL

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1 posted on 03/04/2012 1:37:38 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Can’t they just raise taxes and promise higher wages to counter them?


2 posted on 03/04/2012 1:40:32 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SmithL
a shortfall that works out to about $11,000 for every household in the city.

And for them, that's just "city". Those residents still have state and federal to worry about.

As for retiree health benefits, only small amounts have been set aside for future benefits.

It was plundered.

3 posted on 03/04/2012 1:41:36 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: SmithL

Harry Dent, in his recent book, “The Great Crash Ahead” speaks about this issue and it’s happening in cities, and states, all over the country. And it’s much worse than they’re letting out. The public employee pension issue is a huge time-bomb waiting to go off.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 1:43:32 PM PST by Signalman
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To: SmithL
Make bondholders take a haircut. It's all the rage these days.
5 posted on 03/04/2012 1:46:16 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Signalman
No kidding. Its only gonna get worse.

To Pay New York Pension Fund, Cities Borrow From It First

6 posted on 03/04/2012 1:56:52 PM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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7 posted on 03/04/2012 2:04:26 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Signalman
The public employee pension issue is a huge time-bomb waiting to go off.

The courts have upheld the employees right to the pension as promised and we will be forced to pay much higher taxes so a few can have their retirement.

This one more item that will cause "life as we know it" to unravel.

8 posted on 03/04/2012 2:08:38 PM PST by Taylor42
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To: martin_fierro

Oh well! Stupid People will be left to pick up the thievery.


9 posted on 03/04/2012 2:12:31 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: SmithL

Somehow, when push comes to shove, I feel us people here in Missouri, will be paying for the decades-long, fiscal insanity of Commiefornia.


10 posted on 03/04/2012 2:16:19 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To quote Michael Lewis, from "Boomerang":

     On the way back to the elevators I chatted with two of Mayor Reed's aides. He'd mentioned to me that as bad as they might think they have it in San Jose, a lot of other American cities have it worse. "I count my blessings when I talk to the mayors of other cities," he'd said.

     "Which city do you pity the most?" I asked, just before the elevator doors closed.

     The aides laughed and in unison said, "Vallejo!"

W00T!

11 posted on 03/04/2012 2:23:58 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: EyeGuy
I am sure that you Missourians will be busy paying the pensions of your own retired government workers. It is an issue for every state that has guaranteed pensions for its employees.
12 posted on 03/04/2012 2:52:58 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: SmithL
Does Barry know that fewer babies will mean less health costs? He sure has been adamant in keeping borders open to anchor babies.
13 posted on 03/04/2012 2:59:19 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Signalman

Here’s how they want it to work:

Public employees, teachers, union goons get to retire in their late 50’s - with full benefits. The rest of - who by law must pay for their ‘retirement perks - get to work until we die.


14 posted on 03/04/2012 3:01:18 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-media complex—buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew')
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To: Taylor42

The courts ruled the cities have to pay them. Does the court say where the cities can go to get the money?

If not, I’m sure it won’t be long before congress will be borrowing more money to bail out the cities “Because the courts told us to”. And they’ll just prolong it a little while.

We’re sliding down a slippery slope. And obama is pooring water on it making it more slippery which means we’ll get to the bottom faster. If a republican gets in all he’ll be able to do is borrow some dirt from China to throw on it hoping it will create some friction and slow it down. But we’ll still get to the bottom. I don’t see how we can climb out of this.


15 posted on 03/04/2012 3:08:46 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: SmithL

“Do you know how to pay in San Jose?”

Great song.


16 posted on 03/04/2012 3:19:33 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL

This has been talked about for years in CA. I read 4 or 5 years ago that in future years the state of CA wouldn’t be able to bring in enough $$$ to pay JUST retirement benefits...amounting to billions annually.


17 posted on 03/04/2012 3:32:16 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

No question, but since California is much further down the curve, they would get the Federal bailout FIRST.


18 posted on 03/04/2012 3:39:47 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: EyeGuy

We Californians salute and thank you Missourians.

Signed,
Ex-Missourian (Mizzou ‘73)


19 posted on 03/04/2012 3:52:26 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: EyeGuy
I feel us people here in Missouri, will be paying for the decades-long, fiscal insanity of Commiefornia..

If Baraq wins another term, I can definitely see federally guaranteed state bonds for the BIG 3 - Cal, Ill, and NY.

The joke is that by sometime in that next term, the US credit rating will be so degraded it won't make much difference.

20 posted on 03/04/2012 3:57:31 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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