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Rep. Steny Hoyer to Sandra Fluke: You should probably sue Rush, you know
Hotair ^ | 03/06/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/06/2012 6:46:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Given the insane mileage Democrats are getting from this story, he could probably get David Boies to represent her pro bono. Anything to keep the headlines coming.

Someone, I forget who, tweeted a few days ago that they’d happily bet ten grand that Fluke will get a cameo speaking appearance on one of the first nights of the Democratic convention. Anyone want to take that bet? Bear in mind, Obama’s already dialing up women’s colleges and inviting himself to speak at commencement in hopes of squeezing every last drop of war-on-women goodness out of this fiasco. At the rate we’re going, Fluke might introduce him at his acceptance speech.

“I’d like to see her take him to court,” said Hoyer, who was in Selma for the annual Bridge Crossing Jubilee. “She is not a public figure and, for that reason, she should be able to sue for slander, libel or whatever else might be involved.”…

Joseph Lowery, former president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, said he is familiar with “vintage Rush Limbaugh.”

“(Fluke) has ample room to sue him and I hope she does because he’s gotten rich off the mess he causes,” said Lowery, who joined Hoyer and other national leaders in condemnation of Limbaugh.

She’s got two problems trying to beat him on a defamation claim. One: Hoyer’s probably wrong when he says she’s not a “public figure” for First Amendment purposes. Courts will treat someone as a “limited-purpose public figure” under certain circumstances; according to the EFF’s summary of the law, typically that applies to someone who “(a) voluntarily participates in a discussion about a public controversy, and (b) has access to the media to get his or her own view across.” Fluke voluntarily testified before Congress and, lord knows, she has all the access to the media she could ever want. Assuming she’s a “limited-purpose public figure,” that means she’d have to show that Rush was more than just negligent in calling her a “slut” but acted with reckless disregard for whether it was true. Not an impossible standard to meet but more difficult, and his extended apology today may affect the calculus. The other problem is that, at bottom, he was making a crude joke more than a sincere accusation of fact. His point was that if you want someone else paying for your birth control then you’re kinda sorta being paid to have sex, in which case you’re kinda sorta a prostitute. That analogy is obviously different from claiming earnestly that someone’s promiscuous, but Rush did go on and on and on with it, especially in riffing on the absurdity of the $3,000 figure, so who knows how a jury would disentangle it. Would the line, “She’s having so much sex it’s amazing she can still walk, but she made it up there,” be viewed in the larger context of the point he was making or would it be viewed as a bona fide assertion of fact? I don’t know. Defamation lawyers, any insights?

You’ll be pleased to know that Bill Maher, the chief villain in Kirsten Powers’s j’accuse of liberal men this weekend, has a nifty new HuffPo post up talking about what it’s like to grow up a poor man and then donate $1 million to Obama’s Super PAC, Priorities USA. Among the people circulating his post on Twitter: Bill Burton, senior strategist and co-founder of … Priorities USA. You know, I’m starting to think they might not give back the money.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: altereddate; limbaugh; rushlimbaugh; sandrafluke; sandytheslut; stenyhoyer
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To: SeekAndFind

yesssssssss.... sue him

Let’s see how she stands up to some LEGAL scrutiny


41 posted on 03/06/2012 7:54:36 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sue on what grounds?

And is anyone else concerned that a sitting member of Congress is advising lapdogs to go after private citizens?


42 posted on 03/06/2012 7:56:31 AM PST by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: Sherman Logan

—The term “slut” has no precise meaning. So proving it as defamation would be pretty tough.—

Yeah. That thought was in the back of my mind while I was posting. Regarding the “prostitute” remark, if he can demonstrate that she took money for ANYTHING sex related from the government, it proves the point he was trying to make - that us paying for anything she uses in the sex act equated to her being a prostitute in a backhanded way.

And to be fair, the way he said it was to imply that she was admitting to stuff that would technically make her the equivalent of a prostitute. His words there would be hard to either attack or defend in a court of law. It is solely an opinion about the global meaning of what another person was saying.


43 posted on 03/06/2012 7:58:24 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Lady Lucky

That would open a line of discovery as to whether Ms. Fluke qualified as a public figure under libel law. I really don’t think she wants to go there.


44 posted on 03/06/2012 8:03:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe

Hoyer’s wrong.

Limbaugh never said “Fluke’s a slut.”

He asked if getting others to pay for your sex doesn’t make you a slut or a prostitute. I think the transcript will bear me out on that one. I heard it.


45 posted on 03/06/2012 8:10:51 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Tzimisce
And is anyone else concerned that a sitting member of Congress is advising lapdogs to go after private citizens?

Very excellent point. This is absolutely a thug administration and the Democrat party has now been taken over and run by THUGS!

46 posted on 03/06/2012 8:13:07 AM PST by Sal (BHO is serving America--SERVING US RIGHT UP ON PLATTER!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Given the insane mileage Democrats are getting from this story is proof that reporters are still in the bar this week.


47 posted on 03/06/2012 8:15:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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