Ariz. officials revisit Obama's birth certificate

Associated Press ^ | Wed, Mar 14, 2012 | JACQUES BILLEAUD

[nosf40]

PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona officials are jumping back into a persistent, yet debunked controversy over President Barack Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to hold office. A legislative committee on Wednesday endorsed a proposal that requires presidential candidates to swear that they meet the qualifications to be the nation's chief executive. ...

In the past, political parties drafted their own certification documents that Arizona officials say didn't consistently address the issue of qualifications.

"There has been a lot of media attention devoted to this, so we wanted to make sure there is a standardized form," said Matthew Roberts, a spokesman for Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett...

[iontheball]

I cannot see how this bill does much.
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While it is OK to give citizens standing to challenge a candidate, the primary responsibility should be on the Secretary of State. These officials need to do their job, make a determination of eligibility, and strike the name of anyone who is ineligible. When Obama had his April 27th news conference, he took on ownership of a document which is now determined to be fraudulent. Probable cause to believe he is a felon is clearly sufficient to remove his name from the ballot.

[SatinDoll]

I’m surprised neither of you seen this photo - it has frequesntly been on Free Republic.

I don’t save photos and do not know how to link to them when posting.

I’ll ask around and see if anyone has a copy.

[Ratman83]

the primary responsibility should be on the Secretary of State. These officials need to do their job,

The problem is they did not do their job and then let the courts say that citizens have no standing. I think it could be a conspiracy.

[visually_augmented]

From the article:”There has been a lot of media attention devoted to this, so we wanted to make sure there is a standardized form,” said Matthew Roberts, a spokesman for Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett.

It’s unclear whether other states require such forms. Attempts by The Associated Press to reach Democratic National Committee officials for comment were not immediately successful.

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I am very curious if this reporter ever followed up on this. This stupid reporter might actually fall upon some real investigative reporting and realize that Obama was not actually vetted by the DNC or that the DNC was complicit in the cover-up of Obama’s inelgibility...

[TexasVoter]

SatinDoll sez: “There is something here we are all missing in this situation, and at this point I’m certain it involves national security. Could Obama be blackmailing the Federal government?”

Thanks for airing the CIA facet of this saga. I rarely see much exposition from that perspective, but it makes the most sense to me, given how widely and thoroughly this farce has been perpetrated. It seems to me the CIA long ago became too big to fail. And by long ago, I mean back when JFK died soon after reportedly making plans to disband the CIA.

[bossmechanic]

Eventually the truth will come out.
A lot of people are complicit(sp?) in this and there’s gonna be a lot of fallout.

[matt1]

i’ve been thinking the same thing. when you look at the situation with obama, it isn’t merely one or two documents that are missing or altered, it’s basically his entire history which is a total mystery. we don’t know who the man really is. in fact, we don’t even know his real name. in addition, when whole swaths of documents on a government microfiche goes missing, passport records are missing or altered, selective service documents are altered, etc., this signals there’s some major cover-up going on. further, in addition, when there’s no reasonable explanation (other than cowardice or political bias) as to why no one in congress, the senate, the media, etc. wants to even bring the subject up much less launch an investigation, it just seems plain weird. as in REALLY weird.

[rolling_stone]

the picture is on the long thread and been discussed in detail...including name of the schoool which i forget

[rolling_stone]

http://stuartbramhall.aegauthorblogs.com/2011/04/08/the-president-with-no-past-part-iv/

[TexasVoter]

matt1 sez: "it isn’t merely one or two documents that are missing or altered, it’s basically his entire history which is a total mystery."

That's a great placard, matt1...

OBAMA'S HISTORY = MYSTERY

What this tells me is that the ONLY way to defeat this fraud is to make a very BIG stink on the order of the Vietnam War or Civil Rights protests. Short of that, I don't see this thing ever going away.

Arpaio is correct when he says this thing is 10x bigger than Watergate (or Lewinsky, for that matter and that story ended with impeachment).

As Selwyn Duke recently suggested in the American Thinker, isn’t ONE of these statements TRUE?:

• Arpaio is correct (and an investigation is due from higher authorities who have sworn an oath to the Constitution to determine if a usurper has assumed the Presidency).
  
  
• Arpaio is incorrect (and an investigation is due from higher authorities who have sworn an oath to the Constitution to resolve the issue and restore people’s confidence in our government).
  
  
• Arpaio is lying (and an investigation is due from higher authorities who have sworn an oath to the Constitution to prosecute a law enforcement officer who egregiously abused his office to mount a political attack on the President of the United States).

THINK ABOUT IT: Even the military wouldn't lift a finger in this matter to save the neck of one of it's brightest, most accomplished, honored and honorable officers. In fact, they refused Terry Lakin the right of discovery at his court-martial over a document that Barry purportedly released after being publicly hounded by The Donald. Doesn't the military have an obligation to protect and defend the Constitution? How much probable cause is enough?

I'm telling you: This won't go away until Birthers march in the streets in massive numbers.

[john mirse]

I have wondered about President Obama's birth certificate since the 2008 presidential campaign.

1. There is the June 2007 stamped short form birth certificate that we saw during the 2008 presidential campaign.

2. Why did then Senator Obama obtain a short form in 2007?

3. That is, what happened to the birth certificate that he talked about in one of his books, the one he said he found accidentally when he was a teenager along with his health shots documents?

4. Was the one he found a long or short form birth certificate?

NOTE: I would think that his mother walked out of Kapiolani Hospital with a long form birth certificate, not a short form.

5. Did the Senator from Illinois and Harvard law graduate simply lose it?

6. Did the dog eat it?

7. Was it so damaged that he felt that he needed a new one in better condition?

8. Why did he order a short form, when, at the time, a person could easily order a long form, a long form like the one he ordered in April 2011?

9. If in 2007 all that then Senator Obama had was a short form birth certificate that he ordered from Hawaii in 2007, it means that we have no idea how many days, months, or years passed from the time he lost the long form birth certificate that his mother had when she left Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 to the time he obtained a new long form in April 2011.

10. So I'm still wondering why the Senator from Illinois, the Harvard law school graduate, and Chicago law school teacher ordered a short form birth certificate in 2007 and long form in 2011 if he already had a short form or long form in his possession.

11. The only explanation I can think of is this: He had to order both a short form in 2007 and a long form birth certificate in April 2011 because he lost the one he talked about in his book.

12. NOTE: I would think that most people order new birth certificates only when they lose the one they had.

[TexasVoter]

“The only explanation I can think of is this: He had to order both a short form in 2007 and a long form birth certificate in April 2011 because he lost the one he talked about in his book.”

Another possiblity: He’s withholding the one he talked about in his book (duh) and he knew this could be a problem with his campaign so he got the short form thing trumped up in advance of his 2008 campaign.

[Seizethecarp]

“More likely he worked for the CIA as both his grandparents worked for the CIA.”

I strongly disagree. CIA are patriots, not Marxists and fellow-travellers, like the Dunhams and BHO Sr.

Gramps was an associate of KGB asset Frank Marshal Davis and Gramps had a huge extensively redacted FBI file...not what you would expect from a patriotic American CIA person.

Disclosure: I went through the complete CIA security clearance and subsequently received a “SECRET” clearance from a different agency. IMO there is no way that Barry could survive such and clearance, but there is no evidence that the FBI or any intelligence agency actually investigated Barry or that there is any statutory basis for such an investigation.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Link?

[afraidfortherepublic]

I have NEVER seen that photo before, and I even own BOOKS on Obama’s family. I have read a great deal about them. Somehow, I have missed that chapter of their lives altogether. They look quite happy, don’t they? In fact, that is the best looking picture I have ever seen of them.

I also missed the whole Berkeley chapter of their lives. How long were they there? Why were they there? Did Berkeley come before Mercer Island?

I lived in Berkeley between 1956 and 1968 and nearby thereafter.

[rolling_stone]

Stanley Armour Dunham=grandpa went to Berkely a short time after WWII...
here is some info dont know how reliable it is
http://www.researchandideas.com/index.php?title=Stanley_Ann_Dunham

[afraidfortherepublic]

Thank you. All said and done, this is a very odd family. What was Stanley Armour Dunham doing in Berkeley, and where did he work? Did Madelyn reside there with him? They must have gone back to Ponca City, OK, after Berkeley. From Ponca City to Mercer Island? Or, from Ponca City to Beirut?

[rolling_stone]

Im not sold on the Lebanon part..we had extensive discussions on one of the long threads its like 8-10000 posts long When I get time I will see if I can find it. One of the comments below the pic is a person saying that the school did not have female students till the 1970’s....

You can try googling Obama timeline there are dozens of different sites with their conclusions of timeline...

[Theoria]

The photo depicts Stanley Ann Dunham, Stanley Ann Dunham in a school uniform with the insignia of College Notre Dame de Jamhour, a private Jesuit school in Beirut.

Yeah, Madsen covered the CIA angle a while ago.

[john mirse]

Another possiblity: He’s withholding the one he talked about in his book (duh) and he knew this could be a problem with his campaign so he got the short form thing trumped up in advance of his 2008 campaign.

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Yes. I agree with you.

I think that Senator Obama from Illinois, Harvard law school graduate Obama, and 2008 presidential candidate Obama was too smart to lose such a very document such his original 1961 birth certificate from Kapiolani Hospital.

My point is this: I believe that when Senator Obama ordered a new Hawaii birth certificate in June 2007, he already had his original long form birth certificate from Kapiolani Hospital but he was too scared to show that one to the public, because he knew that it contained details that could be damaging to his presidential campaign.

So I believe that President Obama now has at least three birth certificates: The long one his mother received in 1961 from Kapiolani Hospital, the short one Senator Obama from Illinois ordered in June 2007, and the doctored long one President Obama ordered in April 2011 and showed to the public with great fanfare.

My question is this: Why hasn't a reporter asked President Obama why he ordered the short form in 2007 and the long form in April 2011?