Posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors
Wow...good find. This is really weird. I wonder if any similar EO has been executed before by another POTUS.
Is this for enemies foreign or domestic? Rooting out bitter clingers? Planning martial Law in advance of the election? Resisting an imminent coup d’etat? Or implementing an internal communist coup d’etat to completely overthrow the Constitution? Getting ready to fill FEMA camps with FReepers and Red Staters?
Draft?
Let them try. It won’t go.
I’d help in the Draft Dodger movement. Very little of the BS is now about protecting the U S.
For reading at an hour that is not 2AM.
You just know there’s something buried in here.
Threat against the people?
later
Thinking the same thing.
Read it when I’m more awake.
Think you might be interested.
Not just a draft. A civilian draft, of “persons of outstanding experience or ability” without compensation. If they think they need you, they can compel you to work for the government for nothing.
A quick scan leads me to believe POTUS can nationalize everything w/o congressional oversight.
I found one by Clinton in June 1994
although section 301 the wording looks a little bit different.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/12919.htm
You mean “Planning martial Law in advance of CANCELING the election?”
They won’t get far. Unless they control the food.
Lucky for me it’s not 2am where I am. The EO allows the nationalization of pretty much the entire country even in peacetime if they so desire. They can, under this order, restrict civilian travel by any mode, including (probably) foot travel. They can ration food. They can restrict water usage, even from private wells. They can ration any and all drugs, including OTC and vitamins. They can collectivize farms. They can take over all energy production, including home solar units.
It also allows for drafting civilians. If they have need of your skills, they can compel you to work for no compensation.
All this not in a time of war, but in time of “National Emergency” (several EO national emergency states already in place) or even in Peacetime.
I’ll be become narcoleptic
That’s in there:
Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:
(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;
(e) “Food resources” means all commodities and products, (simple, mixed, or compound), or complements to such commodities or products, that are capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals, irrespective of other uses to which such commodities or products may be put, at all stages of processing from the raw commodity to the products thereof in vendible form for human or animal consumption. “Food resources” also means potable water packaged in commercially marketable containers, all starches, sugars, vegetable and animal or marine fats and oils, seed, cotton, hemp, and flax fiber, but does not mean any such material after it loses its identity as an agricultural commodity or agricultural product.
(f) “Food resource facilities” means plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm), and other facilities required for the production, processing, distribution, and storage (including cold storage) of food resources, and for the domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer (excluding transportation thereof).
They can take charge of all aspects of food production and processing.
Threat against the people?
To protect the State/Regime >from< the people.
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| Algae? -------------------- Sec. 201 ... -------------------- Sec. 801. Definitions. (b) "Energy" means all forms of energy including petroleum, gas (both natural and manufactured), electricity, solid fuels (including all forms of coal, coke, coal chemicals, coal liquification, and coal gasification), solar, wind, other types of renewable energy...
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Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 309 days as of March 17, 2012.
I would suspect it might have more to do with some sort of gas and fuel rationing.
The Fedz can fix a price and ration a set amount to individuals at that price, then have commercial users and those individuals who want more than their alotted amount pay a premium that makes for the heavily subsidized rationed amount.
Just the sort of thing Barry would do to show he's going to punish corporations and that evil 1% while taking care of the "little guy". Anything FDR got away with, even in the middle of WWII, Barry will feel free to do as a way to bolster his campaign and help him win reelection.
Than again, maybe it's some sort of routine revision and we're all nuts after so many years under a fascist dictator in Chief.
JMHO
Thanks for the particulars. Yep, they can even do what
Stalin did and starve large segments of the population.
I wonder how many orgasms Obama had while he was signing this...
In my naivete I have wondered what happens if you are drafted or "compelled to work" but refuse. OK, you are picked up, taken to the rock camp and told to break rocks. You refuse. Then they start water boarding you or what?
Presumably that’s when the NDAA comes into play, and they send you off to the Gulag as an enemy of state, never to be heard from again.
Late Friday dump ping.
“The Disappeared” in Latin America.
Pfl.
Wow! I'm sure I heard somewhere that George Washington fought a war over this type of thing.
I halfway expect that.
An EO has force of law, by "a civilian defense force that should be larger and more powerful than the military", until rescinded by Congress. Good luck getting it past the Senate. Then The Kenyan would veto it.
It would take 2/3 in both houses unless a Pres agrees to sign.
yitbos
Here’s your Civilian Military Force (Brown Shirts?)
PART V - EMPLOYMENT OF PERSONNEL
Sec. 501. National Defense Executive Reserve. (a) In accordance with section 710(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(e), there is established in the executive branch a National Defense Executive Reserve (NDER) composed of persons of recognized expertise from various segments of the private sector and from Government (except full time Federal employees) for training for employment in executive positions in the Federal Government in the event of a national defense emergency.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue necessary guidance for the NDER program, including appropriate guidance for establishment, recruitment, training, monitoring, and activation of NDER units and shall be responsible for the overall coordination of the NDER program. The authority of the President under section 710(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(e), to determine periods of national defense emergency is delegated to the Secretary of Homeland Security.
The first time I read that, I interpreted “executive” to mean something like a C-level or other senior management position. But, re-reading it, I see it is called the “Executive Reserve” presumably referring to the Executive Branch, and thus “executive positions” might just be an obfuscating term for positions in the executive branch, at any level.
Brownshirts indeed.
No wonder gun sales are up...
I sure hope there are generals out there somewhere for our side..
“activation of NDER units”
Using the term “units” is a huge red flag to me.
No, no. Brown Shirts were SA (Röhm), wiped out by the SS (Himmler) in Night of the Long Knives.
National Defense Executive Reserve - the executive/party personal body guards - Waffen SS.
Thirty-eight divisions should eventually do it.
yitbos
An “I SO need to read this later” ping.
I offered this up in more detail about a year ago, and one particular FREEPER told me I was wearing a tinfoil hat. Going to find that post and send him a copy of the E.O. in Freep Mail and ask him what he thinks, now. But, before I do, I'm sending it to my two RINO Senators and lazy-ass Congressman, who threw the Tea Party (who elected him in a huge sweep) under the bus as soon as he got a comfy office in DC. (It's everyone's understanding that his wife runs the office and tells him what to say and do. Think he's on his third complete staff turn-over right now.) I will also be calling them Monday and Tuesday, should they even decide to show up for "work". Just an e-mail gets you added to the LATEST campaign contribution mailer list and a form letter saying how much he has done for ME. >>>> V-O-M-I-T <<<<
I too would not be surprised by some move like that.
13th Amendment—
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
“If they think they need you, they can compel you to work for the government for nothing.”
I guess whoever drafted this has never been a parent. Good luck with that!
Thinking about one, maybe two more next week. One for me, one for my wife. Yes, even my wife, the loving, nurturing mother of my children said she is now interested in getting a handgun, training, and a CC permit. I'm thinking of finally following through and getting a Mossberg 12 GA pump with an 18.5" barrel for close encounters.
Makes one wonder if he is trying to pull a “Hugo Chavez” (for the ones who been leading a sheltered life and pay little attention to the news, Hugo is more or less the socialist dictator of Venezuela and an inspiration to a “Want to be” Hussein)
Never, ever say it could not happen here!
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE, March 16, 2012.
In other words, "Never Mind".
My hubby encouraged me to get the training and CC permit. Now, I go with him to the range from time to time. Your wife will feel much better over time. It took me years to have interest since my dad kept his guns put up from us kids. My hubby said to tell you he had the same Mossberg. He liked it. He gave it to our son in VA when we moved away. Every time Obama does something, I get an uneasy feeling.
An executive order giving all power to the President in a time that he deems appropriate. Wonder if this is being prepared for the first Monday of November.
Nah....they just make life harder for your fellow inmates and tell them it's because of your recalcitrance. Then they start a pool on how long you'll live.
tomorrow
It seems that is what they intend..
Lock and load people, here it comes.
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