Skip to comments.Nine months in trade school. Job guaranteed.
Posted on 03/18/2012 8:37:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Will check into this. My husband worked at a heavy manufacturing for decades. Certified as welder now even.
Sadly, have to move to CHICAGO????
Ugh. But desperate times calls for desperate measures.
Do people use Linkin to make networks for blue collar jobs? If not they should. Or someone should start a blue collar version of it.
$Million idea there folks.
I have been telling the high school kids that if they learn how to operate the new computerized lathes and milling machines they will find good work immediately.
LinkedIn that is.
How long does it take to train someone to operate one of those?
Also... I have to express BS detection in this cheerleader CNN article.
But hoping for the best.
If your husband is a certified welder and you’re willing to relocate, I’d recommend looking into employment opportunities related to Marcellus Shale extraction in Pennsylvania. That region has been desperate for skilled welders for a while now.
This is good but I’ll bet these jobs don’t pay very much.
$45K plus OT.
We have a few specialty machine shops around this area.
One that works with specialty alloys is in the process of expanding for the third time in about 6 years.
Usually 10-20 highly trained machinists, making $15-25/hr.
My mom was a teacher (a good one) for 25 years. It was apparent to me that more than a few kids she was teaching were going to college because it was ‘the thing to do’ when it would better serve them to go to a technical school to learn a skill. It used to be that a college degree opened doors that led to good, high-paying jobs. A college degree is no longer as much of a guarantee as it was ‘back in the day’ ..... having a ‘working with your hands’ skill has been something our society has been losing, to our detriment.
The student they show won’t have any trouble getting hired.
I assume that ‘22’ refers to her waist...
Seriously, women do very well in these jobs and are treated well by their coworkers.
Janitors and housecleaners make $20.00 hour.
My cousin years ago got “accidentally” on the college waiting list as he claimed he paid and submitted the proper forms and grades to get to college. The registrar told him to get lost..
Pissed off, he wanted to study in the fall and looked for schools. He found PLUMBING in the adult education center. He never looked at himself as a plumber but tried it.
Years later, he holds the contracts for the top condominiums in the downtown area and makes more money than his university-education liberal brothers.
Not a homeschooling article, but this could be the beginning of something positive. It indicates an alternative to the useless high schools we currently have.
Your BS detector is working just fine. A cursory check of MS Kavilanz "credentials" reveals two interesting facts: she Journalism major, not an economist; she is reported to have been "excoriated" by a senior CNN writer for making up a quote by a "doctor" about his salary. In other words, just another "I wanna change the world" left-biased (but "balanced") reporterette.
This mirrors my recent thinking. There are so many kids with degrees who are lucky to find a job in retail, even. A friend’s daughter has a master’s in the Japanese language (!), and is currently going for her doctorate, working part-time at our community college, and living at home. I wonder if she will ever stop being a student and be able to earn a good living.
Meanwhile, as an opposite example, our long-time auto mechanic owns a VERY thriving garage-—it’s growing constantly-—and is rumored in the community to be a millionaire. Yes, he gets his hands very dirty during the day. But he cleans up well, and if you happen to see him out in the evenings, he looks like any other well-to-do gentleman. Plus, if the economy ever collapses, he’ll have an in-demand skill that can be used to barter.
It’s really too bad kids think they’re too good for blue-collar work.
The main problem is boys and modern life. When I grew up boys were building model airplanes in their youth, working on cars (hot rods) in their adolescence, and by young adulthood were quite capable with their hands. They could move into a manufacturing job with ease, and there were lots young guys to fill them.
Today kids don't build anything. And cars are almost impossible to work on - not to mention that hod rodding is financially unreachable for most kids. As a consequence, trying to find someone that even knows which end of tool to pick up is difficult.
And I can't say for every field, but I can assure you that in aviation, someone that is REALLY good at sheet metal will be paid as much as a entry to mid level engineer. A move might be required, but there are companies paying BOUNTIES for top quality sheet metal people. As kids grow up less and less quipped to use their hands, I only expect that increase.
Chicago, home of the Obama crime machine. CNN, the home of any lie that helps Democrats.
Not picked up dummy, baby boomers that can afford too are retiring.
"It's not just in Chicago. Factory work has picked up considerably nationwide, making skilled workers a valuable commodity...
I can believe this, because they're learning employable skills that can help a company make a profit.
As opposed to those liberal arts degrees that college students are getting to debt for $80,000+ for.
3 to six months, most community colleges and engineering schools have training available. Also depends on how good you are at math.
"Sadly, have to move to CHICAGO?"
There has been a shortage of certified welders for years. The economic downturn and reduction in commercial construction have lessened the impact of the shortage, but there is still a shortage.
While some locations may have limited opportunities, there are other locations which have extreme shortages.
You do not necessarily have to move. Many welders travel to construction jobs at their employer's expense. My brother in law is a certified welder. He lives in the middle of nowhere and travels to construction sites in major cities in the U.S. and Canada.
If you do consider moving, consider the oil patches of North Dakota or Texas.
We had something in NYC called trade schools. You went there as an alternative to high school.
More than that.
The smart ones do.
I’m not “blue collar” by any means, but I sure know the value of LinkedIn. It’s an invaluable tool. I’m in the supercomputing field (high performance computing, aka HPC). I’m connected to nearly 1000 heavy-hitters in the HPC arena on LinkedIn. Unbelievable the folks I’m directly connected to and can readily communicate directly with due to that site.
OTOH, I was watching my local access TV station the other day and the hot new activity in the local high school is robotics. They robotics club/team is going to CA for a competition (we are in GA).
They are looking for welders in the Marcellus Shale areas in PA for sure.
You’re both correct, but it is even more than that.
When I was growing up, like most kids in the neighborhood, my Dad did most of the upkeep around the house himself out of financial necessity. We needed a large tool shed for the back yard, we built one. Another light and switch in the hallway, we installed one. By time I left home at 18, I don’t think I could build a house from scratch, but there was very little about the process that I didn’t know something about.
Now days, with so many single households and the like, young men get almost NO experience with their hands, or how to repair anything. A neighbor near us (less than half my age) got burned terribly by some “home improvement” company. When he told me the story, my first thought was - how could you be so stupid, I knew better than that when I was ten years old. But I said nothing because how little he knows is not unusual, and just a sad fact of modern life.
Best of luck. There are so great areas around Chicago. I have family in Lincolnshire and Arlington Heights. Two pretty nice areas.
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This actually might be of interest to homeschoolers. I know many homeschoolers try to decide what to do about high school. This sort of an idea could be something to work from.
I’m looking at going back to school to pick up something else. CNC is something I will look into. Other ideas are electronics maintenance/repair and industrial robotics.
Well supercomputing engineers are by definition “the smart ones”.
Seems there is a squeeze going on here. The value of the work needing to be done apparently isn’t worth the expense of training someone to do it. And where it is there’s no guarantee the company will be the beneficiary of the cost since the employee is free to go work for a higher bidder. And the manufacturers don’t want to offer long term contracts for these guys because business might require them to lay them off at any time.
Big problems mean big opportunities for someone clever enough to solve them.
I spent a couple of weeks with some relatives of friends in Arlingeton Heights back in the mid 80s when I was a teen. I really enjoyed the time there.
And you should see the fees our current HOA pays the guy who picks up the dog crap in our community. He's putting himself through college on what he's earning by picking up after the college graduate students who refuse to pick up after their own dogs. We have a ton of grad students living around here, they all have dogs, and they all think someone else should pick up after them.
It's all about your attitude and energy level. Making lemonade out of lemons.
And yes, I DO KNOW what I'm talking about. I was a "certified" welder before I became a pipefitter and I currently carry 8 welding certs for pipe welding.
yup, I’ve encouraged both of my sons to get in the garage and build stuff. As a result I can never find my tools when I need them but they both have the common skills that don’t seem to be that common anymore.
I should have went the trades route too looking back but I was bitten by the technology bug back in early 90s.
Tech jobs are dry in my area and I admit I don’t really love it any more. Fixing people’s stuff on the side has declined a lot too. Computers are near disposable items.
I fooled with package conveyors, winches, davits, hoists, and dumbwaiters among other things while in the Navy. It never dawned on me to look into elevator mechanics.
At one tech job, I supported trades people and one of them was a senoir elevator mechanic. He got me looking into it and could use him as a reference to get started in the trade. The economy blew out and so did that idea.
I just went through the local tech college continuing ed short course stuff for electronics. I may go that route since there aren’t so many hoops to go through and I don’t need a ton of esoteric stuff again.
I’ve fixed computers and related for years and done some low level board part replacing here and there plus I tend to learn fast and get bored with slow paced conventional classrooms.
The other path is enrolling and doubling electronics and robotics (fair amount of overlap) certificate programs. I plan on doing the enrollment stuff this week and see what is what. Enrolling at the little tech college has a lot of hoops mainly to justify some useless jobs I guess.
Oz is sounding better and better.
As annoying as that can be, it could be MUCH worse. At least they won't move back home at 40 because they are unable to find work.
Just think of the poor parents that are more than a 100k in debt so that junior could spend four years at UCLA getting a degree in, “Queer Musicology.”
Once we have Obamma and all these college only "edjumacated peoples" who will people have fix their plumbing, heating electrical and carpentry.
I have been plumbing for 32 years and haven't picked up tool in 15 years but applied myself and directed my skills toward 3D drawing and fixing all the "college edjumacated peoples" mistakes. Their mistakes are so numerous that one has to wonder how they ever graduated as engineers and architects. Most of them belong designing stairwells and parking garages.
It is time American parents started explaining to kids that college is not for everyone and that a damm good living can be made by working with your head and your hands. As for what the wages are i would say 90 to 120 dollars an hour is what they are worth because one has to keep in mind that after 35 years of climbing ladders and jumping into ditches one body is shot.
Here in Detroit, Project Hope is a training facility to teach young people manufacturing jobs such as welding, tool and die....etc.
I knew a guy who was a supervisor there for a brief period of time until my company hired him. He said the students had no discipline, no work ethic, no real desire to learn a trade and they showed up when they wanted.
The only reason they were tolerated was because of the state and federal grants the facility was being paid per student........
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