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Was Florida shooter a vigilante or diligent neighbor?
AP via Washington Times ^ | M>arch 22, 2012 | Mike Schneider

Posted on 03/22/2012 5:48:28 AM PDT by libstripper

George Zimmerman once took criminal justice classes at the community college and was practically a one-man neighborhood watch in his gated part of town, calling police close to 50 times over the past eight years to report such things as slow-driving vehicles, strangers loitering in the neighborhood and open garages.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flshooting; zimmerman
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To: aruanan

More like “F-word POS” ~ bringing things up to date. However, my local informants tell me the “Coon” expression is commonly used by Hispanics in this area.


81 posted on 03/22/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The only thing worse than the misery pimps who are using this for political purposes is the spectacle of those who, in attempting to oppose the misery pimps, end up claiming that Zimmerman did nothing at all wrong and invent secondary and tertiary hypotheses to explain away his lack of common sense, restraint, and ignoring both police and Neighborhood Watch guidelines, all of which resulted in the death of someone the police say had been doing nothing wrong.


82 posted on 03/22/2012 7:50:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Dead Corpse
You need have only a fear for your life. Zimmerman had demonstrated that he was willing to follow and then chase Martin.

Martin had no reason to believe this guy was going to go away.

Remember, Zimmerman never once told Martin why he was there ~

Cold rain, dark of night, strange Hispanic man following him closely in a pickup truck ~ ............. I think Martin had every reason to be fearful.

A reasonable man would think he was being set up for a robbery.

Anyone find Martin's cellphone yet? Last time anyone had anything about the cellphone is that the police property report for Martin did not report a cellphone. It did report the Skittles!

83 posted on 03/22/2012 7:52:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Zimmerman probably started the trouble."

One stranger following another, could be "starting trouble".

Other important questions would be...
Was Zimmerman's vehicle marked in any way, lights, door sticker etc... .
Was Zimmerman wearing any kind of jacket that said 'security' or 'neighborhood watch' etc. Since Zimmerman was clearly dedicated to the cause I'd be surprised if he didn't 'look' the part when 'on duty'.

84 posted on 03/22/2012 7:52:17 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: dfc1

Martin’s father has since changed his mind. He now says it’s his son’s voice.


85 posted on 03/22/2012 7:55:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You’ve done a wonderful job of convicting Zimmerman while assiduously ignoring the most important piece of evidence: Zimmerman, corrorborated by at least one witness, has stated that he boke off his attempted pursuit of Martin and was returning to his truck when Martin jumped him. Even under a “stand your ground” law an assailant is not justified in attacking his adversary once the adversary has broken off the confrontation. At that point the onus is on the assailant, which Martin appears to have been. That, along with Martin’s brutal assault on him, gave Zimmerman the right to use lethal defensive force.


86 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Dead Corpse
Regarding the shooting ~ you'd think that if they were in close quarters combat, with Martin pummeling a squalling Zimmerman, that Zimmerman would have gotten a large amount of Martin's blood on him when he fired.

Or was he standing off a bit ~ no longer in contact with Martin ~ and then he shot him straight through the heart?

The "witness" who claims to have seen everything refused to show his face to the reporters ~ wonder how he'd do in court ~ he has to explain that part ~ so, George, time to give yourself up. No good skulking around there in hiding. People want to talk to you.

87 posted on 03/22/2012 7:59:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

My, my a changed story by somebody who stands to benefit massively from the changed story. Really credible.


88 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:24 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
Read my post immediately following yours. If Zimmermen wasn't drenched in Martin's blood then the shooting took place AFTER contact had ended.

That'd be a big no-no in your analysis regarding Martin's responsibilities. Then, too the law clearly differentiates between lethal force and less than lethal force.

If Zimmerman wasn't beaten to a pulp, and he'd drawn on Martin, he still didn't have a right to shoot him.

Besides, Zimmerman had Martin TRAPPED in a courtyard. That's at least Kidnapping!

89 posted on 03/22/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: libstripper; mickie
The Hollyweird/Entertainment/Media celebrity crowd has now loudly taken up the cause for "justice" for the victim. Steel yourself for the usual "racist" bombardment to come.

Looks like this leftist bunch has finally given up on "Save Mumia", the twenty-year fervered celebrity drive to absolve and free a murderer who, unfortunately for them (and him), is still doing life without the possibility of parole.

Michael Moore is one of those leading the charge in the Florida case. I see another of his propaganda documentaries in the making....these types of causes celebre are how he makes his slimy living.

Leni

90 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: WakeUpAndVote

His dad’s girlfriend lived there with his dad


91 posted on 03/22/2012 8:06:06 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: libstripper
The cops didn't want to release the recording of the 911 call, and once it was released, it was readily seen that events transpired differently then George Zimmerman said they had.

That demonstrates that he was EVASIVE, and once you demonstrate that every little particle goes under intense scrutiny.

This guy is toast.

92 posted on 03/22/2012 8:06:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ZULU

“There are legitimate reasons for people to go about armed. I support this. But whnever somebody abuses that right,”

Sorry, “words mean things”. You said “legitimate reasons”. You are incorrect. Zimmerman has the Constitutional right and the laws of the state of Florida, allowing him to go about armed for no reason at all. He didn’t need a “legitimate reason”.


93 posted on 03/22/2012 8:07:19 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: lacrew

His dad’s girlfriend was the homeowner, his dad lived there with the girlfriend, the kid had a right to be there, whether or not Zimmerman liked it


94 posted on 03/22/2012 8:10:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: muawiyah

you are right


95 posted on 03/22/2012 8:11:37 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: muawiyah
Martin’s father has since changed his mind

Unexpected

96 posted on 03/22/2012 8:13:19 AM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: muawiyah
You need have only a fear for your life.

As witnessed, a guy walking away from you is no threat.

Also as witnessed, a guy sitting on your chest beating you IS a threat.

You lose again.

97 posted on 03/22/2012 8:15:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: libstripper
Then, for one reson or another, Zimmerman chose to break off the contact.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

98 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:13 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: muawiyah
Witnesses do not need to talk to reporters. Only to the cops. they did and the cops declined to charge Zimmerman.

A fact you can't seem to wrap your tiny little mind around.

99 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:30 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: muawiyah
..and Martin did not go hunting for Zimmerman.

Not according to the Police. If there was not enough evidence Martin returned from hiding to attack Zimmerman, Zimmerman would have been arrested.

Clearly the police know Zimmerman. He's alerted them an average of 5 times per year since 2004. If that history had been problematic, Zimmerman would now be under arrest.

100 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:38 AM PDT by moehoward
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