[Mariner]

"You should check your facts. All indications are that Zimmerman (the shooter) was screaming for help, as Martin (the deceased) was on top of him, violently beating him. This is what the only known eyewitness has stated."

The facts are this:

An armed citizen attempted to illegally detain and threaten an unarmed minor who was not committing a crime of any kind. The teen found it necessary to beat the sh!t out of the crazy ba$tard in order to re-establish his freedom of movement on the public street.

As a result the armed citizen shot him to death.

This is a NO BRAINER.

Murder.

[Ratman83]

An armed citizen attempted to illegally detain and threaten an unarmed minor who was not committing a crime of any kind.

Where did you get this from? I have not seen this reported anywhere.

[Above My Pay Grade]

You have no understanding of the facts of this case, the law, or common sense.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman attempted to detain or threaten Martin. Unless he physically assaulted Martin, or threatened to do so (and there is no indication of either of these things), Martin had no right to attack and beat Zimmerman.

The full facts still need to come out, but as it stands now it is indeed a no brainer, Zimmerman was acting in self defense and is not guilty.

If additional facts come to light showing this was not the case, I will change my opinion.