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Santorum Pronounces Zimmerman Guilty Before Trial, or Charge
Big Government ^ | March 25, 2012 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 03/25/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republican presidential contender Sen. Rick Santorum appeared on CBS' Face the Nation this morning and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder in the first degree.

Admitting that he was "not privy to what’s going on in someone’s mind," Santorum nevertheless said that Zimmerman, who shot and killed teenager Trayvon Martin while participating in a neighborhood watch last month, "has a very sick mind who would pursue someone like this." He added that Zimmerman's motive had been "malicious."

The mental state of the alleged perpetrator, the motive, and the question of whether he pursued the alleged victim, are both critical in determining guilt. Santorum's conclusions are consistent with first-degree murder under Florida law....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; santorum; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 03/25/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe he liked the gold teeth:

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer


2 posted on 03/25/2012 6:57:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum spoke - stupidly.


3 posted on 03/25/2012 6:57:27 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lazlo in PA; Steelfish

You wish.

At the end of the day, Santorum’s popularity with the voters will STILL exceed that of Newt. So you obviously must be shilling for Romney.


4 posted on 03/25/2012 6:58:28 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My spidey sense has been right about this guy all along. I wouldn’t want a guy like him for mayor, let alone, president.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 6:59:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 03/25/2012 6:59:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Toast is right!

I'm surprised to see that Santorum hasn't learned that nothing you read in the media is ever very close to correct. Especially, when involves an incident where they can play the race card.

7 posted on 03/25/2012 6:59:18 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Enterprise

Sorry that I voted for him. It won’t happen again. I thought we were innocent till proven guilty.


8 posted on 03/25/2012 6:59:50 PM PDT by kempster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same with Newtie accusing Zimmerman of choosing a dangerous hobby.


9 posted on 03/25/2012 7:00:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not good! But certainly not as bad as Obama injecting his personalized racism into the mix "before Trial, or Charge!!!"

I think both were trying to gain some political mileage with their non-equivaltent comments!!!

10 posted on 03/25/2012 7:00:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Santorum is on the right track with this case.

I've noticed Drudge keeps running the piece on the "Secret Witness" even though we all know the guy saw nothing ~ so, is it the case that the Mitbots are taking up the cudgel on behalf of the Hispanic guy, and the other folks are supporting a far more likely scenario?

Interesting that a killing like this could show the divisions among Republican voters.

11 posted on 03/25/2012 7:01:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an dip$hit Santorum is. He’s afflicted with the hubris which Obama has.

What a terrible president this pompous bastard would have been. Romney has is faults but hubris is not one them. I can’t say the same for Newt. He’s pretty full of himself too.


12 posted on 03/25/2012 7:01:33 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And now, a few words from the “Not Ready for Prime Time Candidate, Rick Santorum”.. !!!


13 posted on 03/25/2012 7:02:38 PM PDT by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Enterprise

Santorum is starting to disappoint me. I was hoping he was conservative and a Romney alternative, but he too often speaks reactively, without obvious thought. Sort of finger in the wind stuff. He is playing to the camera and press and forgetting to layout reasons why he should be elected.

Gingrich has a much better grasp of what to say to explain his core views and to show how Obama is wrong for the USA. Too bad Gingrich has fallen so far in the polls. Maybe we need a brokered convention and forget primary season.

usa.


14 posted on 03/25/2012 7:03:25 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum’s mind is that of a male feminist. That’s why his fans dislike Gingrich so much (not a big spender). BTW, isn’t Zimmerman getting up in the years—68 or something like that?


15 posted on 03/25/2012 7:06:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: parksstp
...you obviously must be shilling for Romney.


16 posted on 03/25/2012 7:07:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, that’s what staying around does for you.

I’ve always said that Rick Perry is the most ham-tongued, numbskull sounding, clueless speaker when someone sticks a mic in front of him and asked him to talk unscripted.

Sorry Rick, looks as if you have been dethroned. Not even on your worst day would you have stepped in this bad.


17 posted on 03/25/2012 7:07:54 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I gave up on Santorum with the really stupid Romney-is-Obama statement the other day. We already have stupid in the White House. We don’t need Stupid with White race guilt in 2013


18 posted on 03/25/2012 7:08:05 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: muawiyah

Secret witness (and other 911 calls)

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html


19 posted on 03/25/2012 7:08:22 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: parksstp

“At the end of the day, Santorum’s popularity with the voters will STILL exceed that of Newt”

You are probably right but it makes no sense to me. Newt is the far better person to be POTUS.


20 posted on 03/25/2012 7:09:30 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Seriously now, the difference between Romney and Obama is as clear as the difference between Trotsy and Stalin.

And for the same reasons, and therein lies the problem.

21 posted on 03/25/2012 7:10:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Santorum is stupid, aO Bama is evil.


22 posted on 03/25/2012 7:11:39 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I watched the interview and he was going by what information he had at the moment and lets face it, it didn't look good for Mr Zimmerman—but the story is still developing.

But regardless, I am amazed at how fast the Romney people have grabbed this story and disingenuously hyped it into a major Santorum smear campaign.

Read my tag line cuz it is the facts on the ground the real realpolitik and Mitt has many covert operatives here disguised as Newt people (if Gingrich had a snowball's chance I could understand the attacks) you can tell them by the mean-spirited glee when they hate on Rick.

23 posted on 03/25/2012 7:11:53 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("With Newt now hopelessly out of the running, all who bash Rick are in the tank for Mitt.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum’s idiocy is beyond belief. It would have been SO easy to say, lets wait till all the evidence is in, or lets wait till the trial before making a judgement. He is definitley not ready to be Prez.... he is not even ready for dog catcher yet.


24 posted on 03/25/2012 7:12:01 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (.)
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To: RicocheT
Maybe we need a brokered convention and forget primary season.

I've already forgotten the primary. Center-right voters have shown me that they haven't learned a damn thing from being ground under Comrade Obama's boot heel.

Like you, I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe a brokered convention will somehow produce a worthy candidate. If not, I'm writing in Sarah Palin and telling the world to FOAD.

25 posted on 03/25/2012 7:12:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RicocheT

I supported Santorum in the Iowa caucuses, just because he had the fewest negatives. I’ve always thought it is a gamble for conservatives to support a staunch Roman Catholic. No telling when Christian compassion will express itself completely inappropriately. Just say I’m disappointed and angry about Santo conviction of Zimmerman, but not surprised. At least it’s before he’s the nominee.


26 posted on 03/25/2012 7:12:50 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: muawiyah

Interesting that a killing like this could show the divisions among Republican voters.


Tells us a lot about you.


27 posted on 03/25/2012 7:13:24 PM PDT by TwoSwords
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To: parksstp

So it’s everyone elses fault that Santorum can’t keep his pie-hole shut? Wasn’t he a lawyer? Shouldn’t he know better?


28 posted on 03/25/2012 7:13:24 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: cripplecreek
Newt said we all had to wait and let the investigation proceed. Newt Never said that Zimmerman was guilty before his rights were even given to him. Big difference.
29 posted on 03/25/2012 7:14:22 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: parksstp
You need to unlock your lips from Santorum's butt just long enough to see how utterly stupid that comment from Santorum was.

And if you keep your head up for a little while longer, I'm sure Santorum will come up with another inane remark about something he knows nothing about.

30 posted on 03/25/2012 7:15:26 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Happy Rain
I watched the interview and he was going by what information he had at the moment...

No adult who is worthy to be president would jump to the conclusion that Santorum did. Much less, on national television. The man does not have the judgment required to handle the biggest job on earth.

Neither does Obama, but that's beside the point. We need a real leader in the White House again, and Santo ain't it. Not even close.

31 posted on 03/25/2012 7:16:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: muawiyah; cripplecreek; Lazlo in PA; Steelfish; Yaelle; Mountain Mary

right track, wrong track, who gives a damn? All Rick did was give his OPINION, which last I checked was a 1st Amendment Right. Nothing he said today will have any bearing on what or how the Sanford Police Department conducts their investigation. It will be according to pre-established rules. Since Rick is not a resident of FL, he has 0% chance of sitting on the jury and wouldn’t be selected anyway.

Look at the Casey Anthony case. Grounded and Pounded for years by Nancy Grace, yet the jury acquitted her. People’s OPINIONS have no bearing, but there is no rule that says there can’t be a court of public opinion.

People here are just being stupid because they have an agenda to push Newt and bash Rick for whatever and whenver. Rick didn’t play the race card like some want to pretend he comments implied. He focused on the mental history of Zimmerman that has been reported as a guy who’s had a history with police and watching too many CSI/COPS drama shows.

It isn’t working. The REAL people that are voting for Rick still support him, and we represent a whole lot of more people than the Newt ankle-biters. Rick will finish no worse than 2nd in WI and MD, well ahead of Newt. So the only logical explanation for continuing to bash Rick is to prop up Romney.


32 posted on 03/25/2012 7:16:58 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: muawiyah

Also find it interesting there were no witnesses to Zimmerman chasing Martin down the street, except the ones on the internet who claim Zimmerman is a lying racist.


33 posted on 03/25/2012 7:17:09 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: Christie at the beach

And Newt declared that Zimmerman had stepped outside the law.


34 posted on 03/25/2012 7:17:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I’ve gotta agree with you. Rick Perry may get tongue-tied and slip gears once in a while, but his mind and heart are (mostly) in the right place.

Some of Santorum’s recent statements show that he’s a different animal altogether. He’s not slipping gears. This is who he is.


35 posted on 03/25/2012 7:19:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: parksstp

Personal opinions aren’t admissible evidence in a court of law. Neither is hearsay.


36 posted on 03/25/2012 7:20:03 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: parksstp
-- At the end of the day, Santorum's popularity with the voters will STILL exceed that of Newt. --

The best help Santorum supporters can provide their candidate is to alert him that his conclusions are premature; and that it would benefit him to notice that fact, and back down from them.

Digging in and justifying making conclusions on bad and/or incomplete information is a sign of immaturity.

37 posted on 03/25/2012 7:20:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: parksstp

Santorum=Electoral Disaster (for the GOP)


38 posted on 03/25/2012 7:20:20 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Windflier

Santorum is prone to gaffes like Biden.


39 posted on 03/25/2012 7:21:09 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: TigerClaws

So... if the Black Panthers begin patrolling areas of Florida and provoking confrontations with unarmed people... any resistance can be met with deadly force in the name of self-defense?

Zimmerman needs to be arrested.


40 posted on 03/25/2012 7:21:24 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pushing more Romney propaganda again .
No one fell for the Romney AstroTurf in LA !
In fact , Mittens smears helped Rick !

I recall how you smeared Perry non stop too .
Do you get paid for your AstroTurfing ?


41 posted on 03/25/2012 7:21:56 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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Pollack is worried about this, but not Obama’s birth certificate.


42 posted on 03/25/2012 7:21:56 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: RicocheT; kempster
As you guys know by now, there was a valid and credible police investigation.

1. The scene was taped/roped off.

2. Crime scene investigators processed the scene.

3. Investigators canvassed the neighborhood for witnesses that night, and for several days afterwards.

4. Zimmerman was handcuffed, transported to the police station, and interviewed. His gun was booked into evidence and it has not been returned to him. After being interviewed, he was released.

5. Zimmerman's statement was corroborated by at least one eyewitness. The physical condition of Zimmerman, and the evidence on his clothing and at the scene also corroborated Zimmerman's statement.

6. The results of the police investigation were forwarded to the District Attorney's office. After reviewing the case, the DA declined to file charges.

And in a moment of unbelievable stupidity, Santorum had the gall to go on TV and render both a legal opinion and psychological opinion, neither of which has been proved in a court of law by expert criminal investigators nor experts in psychology.

Santorum is beginning to look like ONE DUMB SON OF A BITCH.

43 posted on 03/25/2012 7:22:06 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rick’s evidently feeling the stresses of this long primary season because he sure has been making some ill-advised comments lately.


44 posted on 03/25/2012 7:22:33 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: hole_n_one

ah, that’s more like you people, resorting to the personal attacks when the facts are against you. Couldn’t be done any better by the liberals.

You know, for calling Rick out for whining, you Newt people sure do whine a whole hell of a lot. Admit it, it just gets under your skin that primary after primary and caucus after caucus, Rick is blowing your guy out of the water. And you haven’t a clue why. So you blame the “stupid” voters or “socon-only” voters.


45 posted on 03/25/2012 7:22:33 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: parksstp
"So you obviously must be shilling for Romney."

And there you have it, the only argument you have left if your a santrum supporter.
46 posted on 03/25/2012 7:23:25 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: muawiyah

It’s insane to watch... I’m literally watching people turn into the OJ jury.


47 posted on 03/25/2012 7:23:39 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Santo keeps yapping away and not thinking fast enough to beat a snail is another good reason for Newt to stay in until the convention starting Aug 27th. That’s a long 5 months away and Santo keeps eating his foot with regularity. He may talk his way back to his 2% of the vote.


48 posted on 03/25/2012 7:24:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WE don’t have any good candidates. We’re the toast.


49 posted on 03/25/2012 7:24:48 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Santorum spoke stupidly. That said--Romney has PLENTY of hubris. He has presented himself as the only one, the presumptive candidate from the git-go in 2008. He has used his money to back it up and has been as dishonest as the msm in attacking the other candidates.

Although they all have warts, Newt has the best ideas and is best able to analyse, plan and execute.

I would love to see him rebound.

vaudine

50 posted on 03/25/2012 7:24:57 PM PDT by vaudine
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