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Freindly Fire: Why Romney will lose to Obama
The Delaware County Daily Times ^ | March 16, 2012 | Chris Freind

Posted on 03/30/2012 6:09:03 AM PDT by Josh Painter

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To: maryz

I can’t disagree: Mitt’s got statist tendencies. But that makes Romney sound a lot more like G.W. Bush, and I think you’ll agree, he was a lot better than Obama. Still hoping for a better choice....


101 posted on 03/30/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: dforest
nah, you will just be blamed for Obama winning. In the end, Palin will also support the orange juice can, just like Levin said he would.

You mean like she fell in line with the Murkowski-dominated Alaska establishment? It is not wise to predict what Sarah will do - she makes decisions based on her principles, not political expediency. Sarah might give Romney a luke-warm endorsement or she might just quietly sit this one out.

102 posted on 03/30/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: All

Why Romney (or any other candidate will beat Obama): he’s not an angry black thug who hates America and has an incredibly ugly wife who wants to tell Americans how to live...


103 posted on 03/30/2012 10:05:23 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: CommerceComet

Sarah has already said ABO not all that long ago. She has given no indication that she no longer thinks that.


104 posted on 03/30/2012 10:08:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: CommerceComet

http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/12/palin-ill-support-gop-nominee.html


105 posted on 03/30/2012 10:11:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest
Sarah has already said ABO not all that long ago. She has given no indication that she no longer thinks that.

I wasn't aware of that. However, her endorsement of Romney in the ABO mode exactly defines a lukewarm endorsement.

Conservatives need to stop resigning ourselves to accepting Romney and try to stop him from getting the nomination. An open convention might be the nation's last chance to avoid the choice between tweedledee and tweedledum. Conservatives have absolutely nothing to lose in an open convention - we couldn't do worse than Romney. Getting the nomination in such a fashion isn't going to damage the eventual nominee beyond Romney's already-damaged image. I think that the Republicans would rally around the nominee in way that they will never do for Romney. It would be a breath of fresh air to energize the party.

106 posted on 03/30/2012 10:22:16 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: CommerceComet

I agree it is lukewarm, but she has already said she would support the eventual nominee.

I don’t think that will happen until after the convention though.

I think she will probably start campaigning for potential Congresscritters and Governor candidates. I don’t know that as a fact, but I think she will do that.


107 posted on 03/30/2012 10:28:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: GBA

Bottom line? I can’t/won’t vote for mitt romney.

I’ve used up whatever it was that let me vote that way after voting for Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush and, *shudder* John McCain. It’s all gone. . . .

Funny, I said that about Nixon but voted for him. I said that about Ford but voted in the general for him. I said that about both Bushes but voted for them. While it really sucked I even said that about McCain but voted for him. If a Republican ever loses an election by one vote, it won’t be mine.

Romney is not my cup of tea but he has to be better than McCain.

A statement was made earlier about right or left of center, it was a wise remark. Being anything right of center is better than left. A little success is a lot worse than none.

The sad thing is that we moan and groan about Romney. Who else has worked as long and hard at it? In 2009 what Republican do you know that was working on trying to beat Obama? How about 2010? If Michelle Bachman had put in as much effort as Romney for as long as Romney perhaps she would be in an entirely different position than she is now. The same can be said of Santorum and certainly Gingrich.

Almost everybody wants to be President, and almost every Republican wants to get Obama out of office. But like him or not, at least Romney has worked hard at it. I wish he were Bachman but he isn’t. I’ll go with the best we have on election day instead of sucking on sour grapes.


108 posted on 03/30/2012 10:55:52 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: CommerceComet
Conservatives need to stop resigning ourselves to accepting Romney and try to stop him from getting the nomination.

We've been trying. But no matter how much some of us said it would help take delegates from Romney if we were down to one alternative, meaning either Newt or Rick has to drop out, people stubbornly refused to have one of those guys drop out. Hence they will split the vote as they did in Alabama and Illinois, allowing the winner-take-all rules to favor Romney and give him more delegates. Some states give WTA if one candidate gets above 50% of the vote. We can't do that with two conservatives in the race. And some states award WTA delegates to whoever gets the plurality of the vote, meaning Mitt can get them all with 30% of the vote while the other candidates with 29% get zero.

109 posted on 03/30/2012 11:14:56 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: JAKraig
Romney is not my cup of tea but he has to be better than McCain.

In what way? McCain was solidly pro-life and anti-gay marriage. Romney is the opposite. McCain also knows way more about military issues than Romney and was willing to make bold steps like the Iraq troop surge even if they were unpopular. Romney wouldn't do something like that in a million years. I've never had a problem voting for any Republican presidential candidate before this, which would cover the last 20 years or so. Romney is in a liberal league of his own. Implementing a socialized health care system with abortion coverage and being the first governor to willingly grant homosexual marriage licenses is going way too far to still qualify as a Republican. McCain looks like Rush Limbaugh compared to Romney.

110 posted on 03/30/2012 11:20:48 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Josh Painter

because Romney is a whiter version of Obama...so why vote for the fake when you can get the real thing.


111 posted on 03/30/2012 11:30:21 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Josh Painter

100% dead on the money.


112 posted on 03/30/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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To: JediJones

Romney is not my cup of tea but he has to be better than McCain.

In what way?
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McCain says he is opposed to abortion but can apply no litums test

McCain is a defender of illegal immigration
McCain/Feingold
McCain supported all the bailouts
McCain wants a $5000 tax credit to buy Chevy Volts
McCain is a Global warming nut
McCain wants to find ways to reduce CO2
McCain Supports high tax rates for wealthy
McCain wants to get rid of our nuclear weapons
McCain supports gay rights although not marriage


113 posted on 03/30/2012 1:36:16 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
Romney is not my cup of tea but he has to be better than McCain.

Maybe so, but McCain beat Romney the last election and how did that game plan go against obama? And now they want to run their B team against him? The guy who lost to their A-team guy who then lost to obama? Why?? Because it's his turn, ala Dole?

Check the primary view screen, Uhura. His own party doesn't like him. Looks like he and the establishment can buy the primary, but where is the love?

The truth is, the love is out there waiting, unrequited, but the ruling class fear those who inspire the love that comes from real populist, grass roots American support.

And here we are. Anyway, best wishes to you and your vote.

I guess it depends on what you can stomach, but those sour grapes, if that's how you truly see it, are better for my digestion than that tainted kool-aide the GOPe keeps passing around.

Cheers!

114 posted on 03/30/2012 5:57:14 PM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: JediJones

He can release it but the markets are not stupid and the drop in gas price would be 30 to 40 cents which is not nearly enough to the comfort zone of the majority of voters who would also see it as clear political game before the elections...


115 posted on 03/30/2012 8:07:10 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: GBA

Why?? Because it’s his turn, ala Dole?. . . . .
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If it was a matter of turns perhaps I could live with that, I don’t believe in turns.

What I can’t stomach is 4 more years of Obama the Marxist. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is a Marxist. I realize that the talking heads say he is progressive, his not, he is simply a Commie, plain and simple.

Of all the candidates running, only Paul is far enough is far enough to the right to make me happy. I realize that Paul could never win in a general election. I realize that I am pretty far to the right and I am not the average person. It is me that is different. I think everybody should think the same way as me, they on’t not because they are stupid. They are uninformed, ignorant of the truth.

The same is true of Romney supporters. They have a right to their wrong ideas and policies. In our country, for now anyway, the majority makes the decisions. We can think that Palin is loved by the majority all we want but wanting it doesn’t make it so.

The only way I could ever vote for Romney and be happy is if he did something in his first term that was so out of character that it surprized me.


116 posted on 03/31/2012 9:16:25 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
I have not forgotten how strong my apprehensions were about each of the demonrats I was voting against in that decision moment in the booth.

Dole is the reason I'm an Independent and not a Republican. I couldn't believe they had run such a weak candidate after those first 4 years of Clinton.

I'm way beyond apprehension these days. The thing that scared the bejeezus out of my parents' and grandparents' generations just about has us.

If I'm a coach, this isn't the game to put in my third string, unless you're betting on the other team.

The closer we get to the election, we'll see more opportunities for chaos stirred up. The economic attack of 2008 lead to obama. Keep a cool head and watch out for what's coming next.

117 posted on 04/01/2012 6:21:45 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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