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Visiting Marquette Univ., Justice Kagan tells of hunting with Scalia
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 4 April 2012 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 04/04/2012 5:59:19 AM PDT by bjorn14

Though she's not running for anything, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan almost sounded as if she were trying to score points with Wisconsin outdoorsmen Tuesday during a conversation at Marquette University.

Kagan, a New York City native who had no experience with guns when she was named to the court in 2010, said she's now used them several times with colleague Antonin Scalia.

"He's made a huntress out of me," Kagan told Mike Gousha, host of "On the Issues" at Marquette's law school - and about 240 law students listening in on their talk. The justices have bagged pheasant and quail, and plan to go after bigger game out West this fall.

"He insists I'm going to shoot myself an antelope," Kagan said. That's fine with her, she said, because she's come to view hunting as "really good fun."

Displaying the ease and charm that carried her to confirmation, and probably makes her popular at cocktail parties, Kagan shared her impressions of her career and the court. She was in town at the invitation of Marquette Law School Dean Joseph Kearney, who said the two met at a conference for new law deans in 2003. He invited her last year to judge Marquette's 2012 moot court competition, which was held Tuesday night.

In an hourlong discussion with Gousha, Kagan talked about how her prior experience as a teacher, Harvard Law School dean, solicitor general and White House adviser informs her work as a justice. She of course did not go anywhere near last week's historic argument on the Affordable Care Act, and the audience knew better than to ask.

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1 posted on 04/04/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

Dick Cheney’s on the mend.She can do a little hunting with him.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 6:01:31 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: bjorn14

Kin ah git me a huntin license he-ah?

Sheesh, now wacko lib Supreme Court justices pretending to be “regular guys” — just so you won’t be hacked off when they make you buy broccoli.


3 posted on 04/04/2012 6:04:00 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bjorn14

How adorable. Hope this “news” reaches all the tree hugging, liberal PETA supporters she has. I’ll bet if you look hard enough, you can find papers she has written calling for the outlawing of hunting.


4 posted on 04/04/2012 6:05:04 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: bjorn14
"He insists I'm going to shoot myself an antelope," Kagan said.

I like most of this quote very much ... all the way up to where she starts talking about antelopes.

5 posted on 04/04/2012 6:09:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Farmer Dean; STARWISE; maggief; onyx; Liz; LucyT

Yelp Cheney got a heart
Kagen is showing signs of getting a brain

Now if the SCOTUS gets some courage
Maybe a house will fall on BhO.


6 posted on 04/04/2012 6:13:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: ClearCase_guy
"He insists I'm going to shoot myself an antelope," Kagan said.

Actually, his exact words were: "Cripes! Be careful! You're going to shoot yourself, you stupid cow!!"

7 posted on 04/04/2012 6:14:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: bjorn14

Way to go Scalia.. The only way to transform someone’s life is to be a part of it. It is the original Christian model. Not to mention the Garden of Eden model. If we could all do this, instead of isolating ourselves into our VWR corner. I am soo guilty of that as well. Being around liberals makes me nauseous. Any pointers Scalia?


8 posted on 04/04/2012 6:14:51 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: bjorn14

I guess Scalia isn’t as good a shot as Dick Cheney...

; - )


9 posted on 04/04/2012 6:15:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOL....you’re probably right!


10 posted on 04/04/2012 6:16:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: hoosiermama
Yelp Cheney got a heart Kagen is showing signs of getting a brain

nah, she's got a pair. Just one of the boys.

11 posted on 04/04/2012 6:20:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: liberalh8ter

As of today, the US Government has stopped allowing hunting of the dama gazelle & two other exotic African antelopes & has given them full protection under the federal Endangered Species Act. Texas ranchers have been raising the antelopes for hunting - now, they can’t afford to keep the herds, can’t legally kill them and they cannot release them. The ranchers can apply for federal permits to continue the hunts, but most won’t because they say it is government intrusion. The animal activists are happy.


12 posted on 04/04/2012 6:21:44 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: bjorn14
"He's made a huntress out of me,"

o, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, you huntress, you!

13 posted on 04/04/2012 6:23:37 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: momincombatboots

Don’t feel bad, it’s easier for the elite on the right who are sheltered from the worst repercussions of liberal government(ie, exempting themselves from ObamaCare). We live down here at the bottom of the power hill. I know I despise and can’t stand to interact with liberals. Through their ignorance or apathy, they make life for us a constant struggle to retain our God-given freedom and right of self-determination. It’s hard to deal with people who do that to their fellow citizens.


14 posted on 04/04/2012 6:25:37 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: bjorn14

Justice Kagan had better not turn too quickly, or she might get a load of birdshot in the face....


15 posted on 04/04/2012 6:25:55 AM PDT by alloysteel (It is hard to get a man to understand, when his pay depends upon his not understanding something.)
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To: momincombatboots

>> Way to go Scalia.. The only way to transform someone’s life is to be a part of it. &etc

Amen, and well said.

I think Kagan might end up surprising us. She’s liberal but she’s far from stupid. IF the conservative world view is in fact the righteous world view — and at least you and I must believe it is, ‘cause we’re here on FR — then it stands to reason that a thinking person with integrity can be swayed to abandon liberalism and embrace conservatism.

FRegards


16 posted on 04/04/2012 6:27:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: bjorn14

Maybe Scalia will also teach her to respect the Constitution.


17 posted on 04/04/2012 6:31:31 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: MissMagnolia
If I were a Texas gazelle rancher, I would load my herd into my stock trailer, drive them up to Washington, D.C. and open my trailer door on K Street.
18 posted on 04/04/2012 6:31:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick
I think Kagan might end up surprising us. She’s liberal but she’s far from stupid. IF the conservative world view is in fact the righteous world view — and at least you and I must believe it is, ‘cause we’re here on FR — then it stands to reason that a thinking person with integrity can be swayed to abandon liberalism and embrace conservatism.

Wouldn't it be a blessing if Kagan turned into the Left's David Souter?

19 posted on 04/04/2012 6:34:58 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: bjorn14

Whatever it takes to save the 2nd.


20 posted on 04/04/2012 6:36:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bjorn14
She of course did not go anywhere near last week's historic argument on the Affordable Care Act, and the audience knew better than to ask.

Which she should have recused herself from....

21 posted on 04/04/2012 6:39:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: momincombatboots

Bingo! Scalia is educating his urban colleague who has grown up thinking guns are used exclusively by soldiers and criminals. Now she knows - owns it in her heart and mind - that such a view is wrong.

It must be said that no justice rises to that position without first being immersed in the progressive urban culture (law schools, law firms, and courts are all lop-sidedly progressive urban environments), so they need no such tutelage from liberal colleagues (but a conservative justice can educate liberal colleagues just by participating in progressive urban cultural occassions and demonstrating that conservatives are not ignorant - we simply reject crap because our noses work).


22 posted on 04/04/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (If you are free, thank a lawyer and a vet.)
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To: bjorn14

I chuckle at the very thought of Justices Scalia and Kagan bouncing along in a pick-up truck in western South Dakota hunting antelope or better still stopping by a local bar in some small west river town. Word of advice when stopping by a bar in small town South Dakota do not order a glass of white wine or worse still a Cosmopolitan. Perhaps they should get in contact with Rep. Kristi Noem (R-SD) whose family operates a hunting guide business in western South Dakota.


23 posted on 04/04/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: momincombatboots
If we could all do this, instead of isolating ourselves into our VWR corner.

What's VWR? Vast wing right...very wascally Republican...nope, can't figure it out.

24 posted on 04/04/2012 6:47:47 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“”He insists I'm going to shoot myself...”

Aha, if only that was the end of that sentence.

25 posted on 04/04/2012 6:54:48 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: JediJones

I was thinking vast right wing.... but I like your interpretation much better. Now I have Elmer Fudisms bouncing through my head.


26 posted on 04/04/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I like it! I’m waiting to see what will happen because you ‘don’t mess with Texas’ - they may not be able to get around that law regarding hunting, but they’ll think of something.


27 posted on 04/04/2012 7:03:21 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: John O

Warriors, err, Golden Eagles Bump


28 posted on 04/04/2012 7:04:29 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: PGR88
Maybe Scalia will also teach her to respect the Constitution.

He's got a good start on the 2nd Amendment!

29 posted on 04/04/2012 7:10:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: The Shrew

Dad has said since her nomination hearings that Soto will be the Left’s Souter.....Hopefully both will surprise BO.


30 posted on 04/04/2012 7:12:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: MissMagnolia
I think they'll defy the Fed and fight it.
31 posted on 04/04/2012 7:14:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: momincombatboots
Libs need to convert themselves, and some do.

I spoke to a lib yesterday and spoke about corruption at the highest level of government and in the oval office.

He told me in unmistakable and explicit terms that getting the most corrupt and merciless SOB into the oval office is a desired goal for Democrats. He reasons that if they can do this he would be the most difficult to defeat in the policy arena.

While we search for the most Honest man, they look for the most deceitful, nastiest SOB in the party.

So forget about Kagan or any other lib. It's all show. She'd probably shove a fork in your eye if it furthered her communist agenda. When we get upset about Obama not having a BC, they view it as turn on that he got away with violating the constitution. The Democrat party has gone full blown communist.

32 posted on 04/04/2012 7:26:21 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: bjorn14

Less than 3 minutes to the first tasteless Dick Cheney reference. I see everyone has had their caffeine this morning.


33 posted on 04/04/2012 7:27:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bjorn14

I believe Scalia has also taken Ginsberg shooting several times.


34 posted on 04/04/2012 7:31:28 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: PA-RIVER

I suppose I was referring to rationale liberals who have been brainwashed and asleep. Even “conservatives” I speak to have no idea of the depth and breadth of problems with foreign policy, economic policy, etc. These are committed conservatives I speak to. They are just as asleep and vote like lemmings no differently than liberal lemmings. There are those who refuse rationale thought and debate, they are lost, move on. Some people just like to argue, having never gotten past the rebellious teen years.


35 posted on 04/04/2012 7:42:43 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: hoosiermama

Soto and Kagan had to promise to do everything in their power to destroy the united states in order to get the job from Obama. Anything she or Kagan says that sounds pro American is simply cover.


36 posted on 04/04/2012 7:42:43 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: hoosiermama
Dad has said since her nomination hearings that Soto will be the Left’s Souter.....Hopefully both will surprise BO.

Can you imagine the bile and hate filled rants that those like Maher will vent on them if that turns out to be the case? You can write the speeches now. We don't have to wait. May they decide with this decision to vote the Constitutional Law they both have studied instead of the drivel that most leftists focus on.

Regards,

TS

37 posted on 04/04/2012 7:58:09 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: liberalh8ter

I can decide between this post and #5 as my favorite of the day.

I’m just picturing Scalia and Kagan dressed in camo with their rifles hiding behind trees on the National Mall with the gazelles in the crosshairs.


38 posted on 04/04/2012 7:58:54 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: momincombatboots

If they Identify themselves as Democrats, I usualy find they are entrenched. They are the counter revolutionaries, the Marxists that want individual freedom to be extinguished. They hate George Washington, they hate America.

I have relatives that publicly state on facebook that they hate America. I know why they voted for Obama.


39 posted on 04/04/2012 8:05:09 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Nervous Tick

‘When I was first introduced to Obama, he said: “Oh, you’re the gun guy.” ‘I responded: “Yes, I guess so.” “I don’t believe that people should be able to own guns,” Obama replied. I then suggested that it might be fun to have lunch and talk about that statement sometime. He simply grimaced and turned away, ending the conversation. That was the way numerous interactions with Obama went. “

John Richard Lott Jr. He spent five years as a visiting professor (1994–95) and as a fellow (1995–99) at the University of Chicago.

authored five books, including More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics.

http://charlesrowley.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/a-failing-grade-on-barack-obama-from-chicago-law-scholars/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Most people who are knowledgeable enjoy a hard discussion of their work.

With Obama not so much.

At this level of discussion it’s a sporting event.
In my opinion, if you cannot defend your proposal, you do not belong there.

Don’t forget that Kagan wants to turn Scalia her way.


40 posted on 04/04/2012 8:06:19 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: ALPAPilot
LOL....I think post #5 is spot on!
41 posted on 04/04/2012 8:07:29 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: The Shrew

Would think that NBC/ABC issue if handled appropriately might stick a sock in a few mouths. A link to posting an FCC complaint was posted yesterday. Had trouble getting it downloaded. Site may have been busy.


42 posted on 04/04/2012 8:09:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: PA-RIVER

Maybe we could make an even trade with Mexico. Send them your relatives in exchange for a few farm workers.


43 posted on 04/04/2012 8:14:18 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: DUMBGRUNT

>> Don’t forget that Kagan wants to turn Scalia her way.

That’s a good point. However, wherever true conservatism is understood and practiced, it *works*, because it’s not based on emotion, it’s based on *truth*. At its root truth is the law of God and His creation. Therefore conservatism appeals to those who “hunger and thirst after righteousness”. Most intelligent beings with integrity want to know the real *truth*. And liberalism is a false “truth”.

I really believe that.

Therefore I have faith that if either of them “turns” the other, it will be Scalia turning Kagan and not vice versa.

FRegards


44 posted on 04/04/2012 8:18:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: PA-RIVER

Can’t pick our relatives. I some entrenched and some who are just plantation slaves. People who use the word hate often are simply being argumentative. That normally means, they have no facts for their case. Freedom to go to another country. I usually ask what country they admire. It is always a country of death and of political repression.


45 posted on 04/04/2012 8:31:00 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: bjorn14

Pretty amazing...

Urban lib Jewish female progressive hunting with arch righty

Guess Woody Allen is on their next Safari


46 posted on 04/04/2012 8:35:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: bjorn14

Because of what I used to do for a living I came in daily contact with some pretty staunch liberals who were anti-gun.

If I discovered that they had never fired a weapon I would tell them that it wasn’t very open-minded, nor progressive to dismiss an unknown without first experimenting and then I would invite them to a range. Why not.

After the first trip at least half of them had a totally different opinion. Give me three trips to the range or an organized hunt and I can turn around a lot of opinions on guns and gun ownership.

Most people just don’t know what they are talking about.

Another thing I’ve found: Some of the libs I took to the range became a lot more open to all kinds of conservative viewpoints afterwards. Baby steps.


47 posted on 04/04/2012 9:07:19 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: bjorn14
Kagan's already on the bench for life. I can't fault Scalia for making an effort to give her some life experience with firearms. It might balance her perspective on future 2nd Amendment issues. A trip to the range turned Dr Laura from a rabid anti-gun liberal into a pro-gun conservative. It was refreshing thing to see the transformation. No guarantee that it will work every time, but certainly worth making an effort.
48 posted on 04/04/2012 9:15:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nervous Tick
That’s a good point. However, wherever true conservatism is understood and practiced, it *works*, because it’s not based on emotion, it’s based on *truth*. At its root truth is the law of God and His creation. Therefore conservatism appeals to those who “hunger and thirst after righteousness”. Most intelligent beings with integrity want to know the real *truth*. And liberalism is a false “truth”.

I really believe that.

I agree. Hence my tagline.

Regards,

TS

49 posted on 04/04/2012 9:40:28 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: hoosiermama

You have a wonderful wit!

The MSM are the flying monkeys!


50 posted on 04/04/2012 1:36:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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