Posted on 04/05/2012 12:17:18 PM PDT by marktwain
As someone from Arizona, I object to the statement "No state is second to Florida when it comes to embracing second amendment rights."
Arizona is far superior to Florida in our support of the Second Amendment. Arizona has Constitutional carry, where no permit is required for either concealed carry or for open carry. Florida still bans the open carry of firearms.
Still, I have hopes that Florida will strive diligently to rise to Arizona's level.
I’d say the spike came about three years ago, not two. That’s when I got my permit. The class was packed to the rafters and it took almost a month longer than the time allowed by law to get to me. Go figure; I took my class right about when Obama was sworn in.
My concealed carry permit arrived about a week after my baby did. I don’t carry because I’m afraid or violent: I carry because I have a God-given duty to protect my child.
So, 168 out of 700,000? Next to none. Then, define "gun crime".
To have this become law, they had to add a clause that they would track ALL permit holders for crimes committed, and not just those with a gun, from the beginning. The cost was upwards of 10 million dollars a year to do so.
What they found was that less than 1/1000th of a percent broke ANY laws. After 10 years, this reporting was stopped.
My numbers may be slightly off, and perhaps some Florida FReepers can add to this, but the numbers were ridiculously low.
What the Fluke does the Dept of Agriculture have to do with regulating CCW permits?
They forgot to duck.
An unintended consequence, not foreseen by the lynch mob.
they employ all fish and game officers...fish and game officers have jurisdiction anywhere in the state vs police officers.....
Florida at least is a shall issue state regardless if they have a funny way regulating it.
That’s a .024% revocation rate. Not six sigma, but good enough for government process purposes.
I guess that makes sense. Kinda.
I never thought of DNR officers as having the same resources as police.
You do not want an agency adamantly opposed to an action to be the one that grants permits for that action. When you do that, you get things like the ATF and the EPA.
In Arizona, the DPS runs the permitting process. They followed the rules, but any slightly gray area was ruled against permissive CCW. Eventually someone headed up the CCW shop that realized what a spectacular moneymaker for the state it could be, but by then it was too late. They had pulled enough bonehead stunts that the reaction resulted in Arizona passing constitutional carry and loosening up the rules from the legislature.
IN FLA they have total jurisdiction....seems strange but that is the way it is....
Better them then some agency with an agenda against guns.
Besides, up until a few years ago the guy in charge of the Dept of Agriculture's name was Charles Bronson. So everyone's carry permit was signed by Charles Bronson. :-)
Our fish and wildlife officers have more resources than anyone, equipment wise. And there are many agencies that have statewide jurisdiction including campus police.
I have my FL CCW and I live in VA.
Another bit about Arizona is that you can own anything short of a howitzer and there are public lands available where you can shoot it. In Florida, if you don't own land or know someone who does, you are basically SOL.
For perspective it would be nice of the liberal media to also report how many criminals killed people during this 2007_2009 period to see which group really is the real threat to society.
Can’t report the truth, though, right liberal media?
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