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Charles Manson, now 77, gets new chance at parole
Q13Fox.com ^ | 4:09 p.m. PDT, April 5, 2012 | Charles Manson, now 77, gets new chance at parole Shelby Grad and Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 04/06/2012 8:43:12 AM PDT by jmcenanly

LOS ANGELES—

This post has been corrected. See the note below.

After 11 failed bids for freedom, notorious killer Charles Manson, now 77, is up for parole later this month. The parole board rejected his bid in 2007, saying Manson [For the record, 9:42 a.m. April 5: An earlier version of this post incorrectly gave the killer's last name as Mason.] "continues to pose an unreasonable danger to others and may still bring harm to anyone he would come in contact with."

Manson refused to participate in that hearing, describing himself as a "prisoner of the political system." He also declined to participate in any psychological evaluations in 2007.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: celebritycriminal; charlesmanson; manson; parole; parolehearing; prison
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To: SamAdams76
I agree SA.

But I find this rather stunning...Some of my neighbors are in the early 70s, and look nearly 20 years older than Charlie.

To be honest, Vincent Bugliosi looks nearly dead in comparison to Manson.

Yes, life if better on the outside, however, it's becoming inordinately clear, the stresses of living in today's America, are through the roof and heading straight up.

Both born the same year.

51 posted on 04/06/2012 11:07:20 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jmcenanly

Has Bill Ayers sent him a birthday card?


52 posted on 04/06/2012 11:13:36 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 4yearlurker

While it is true that Manson didn’t kill anyone at the Tate or Labianca residences, it was reported by witnesses that old Charlie did murder a few people out at Spawn ranch.

If memory serves me, Gary Hinman was killed by Charlie and buried in something like 7 different graves.


53 posted on 04/06/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007

Manson didn’t kill Hinman, it was Bobby Beausoleil who stabbed Hinman to death.


54 posted on 04/06/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: a fool in paradise
Since Manson did not actually stab anyone or cut their throats, that makes him “not a nice man” and not bad enough to put to death?

Really?

Without his leadership it is possible that none of the others would have murdered anyone. I think he is the *most guilty of the entire group and the *most deserving of being put to death.

55 posted on 04/06/2012 11:43:46 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: dragnet2

I was wrong on the name, but I do remember reading in Helter Skelter that the biker guy that helped Bugleosi (sp?) build a case against Manson said that Charlie had killed a Black Panther guy and some other guys at Spawn ranch.

I don’t think Manson is completely guiltless of murder. He’s got blood on his hands personally.


56 posted on 04/06/2012 11:52:42 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007

No, Manson did not kill a black panther.

It was a guy named Crowe, who Charlie thought was a BP, and Charlie only wounded the guy, but did not kill him with, I believe he shot Crowe with a .25, but did not kill him.


57 posted on 04/06/2012 12:10:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jazusamo

Obama’s new “ Prison Czar “


58 posted on 04/06/2012 12:24:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: a fool in paradise

LOL!! He’d fit right in looking like that!


59 posted on 04/06/2012 12:56:04 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: dragnet2

I’ll read Helter Skelter again. Last time was in 1978 when I was in high school. But I believe you’re wrong.

Manson did kill the black panther according to a witness and I remember reading that Manson also drove around in a dune buggy with a sword and used that sword to kill someone else. Another death attributed to Manson was of the hired hand at Spahn ranch, I think the guys name was Shorty. He was a witness to the Family’s evil and was going to serve as a witness so Manson killed him. It was his body that is supposed to be buried in 7 different graves because Manson cut him up with his sword.

Like I said, I read the book decades back, but I do remember a witness telling the DA that Manson did kill.


60 posted on 04/06/2012 1:23:02 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“What’s funny is everyone thinks of grandmothers as kindly old ladies, like their own grandmother. Yet they were young and slutty and violent and drunken and vicious once too.”


We certainly were! Those were the days,my friend.


61 posted on 04/06/2012 1:29:28 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: SamAdams76

“. ——— keep the kids from fighting in the backseat—”


Forgot about that and those auto trips from hell.

We had some great vacations though.


62 posted on 04/06/2012 1:33:31 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Jack Burton007
But I believe you’re wrong.

I don't think so Jack.

Manson didn’t kill Hinman, it was Bobby Beausoleil who stabbed Hinman to death.

And Manson did not kill a Black Panther either.

It was a guy named Crowe, who Charlie thought was a BP, and Charlie only wounded the guy, I believe he shot Crowe with a .25, but did not kill him, only wounded.

If ya don't believe me, feel free to look it up Jack.

63 posted on 04/06/2012 2:15:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ditter

William Ayers’ wife applauded the cultists murdering “pigs” in their home, including a pregnant woman, and then eating their food.

The Weather Underground did kill people and commit treason against this nation on behalf of the North Vietnamese military in a time of war.

THOSE hippie punks are still walking the streets free, committed THEIR last known act of violence in the 1980s (a bank robbery) and have been welcomed by the current occupant of the White House.

Manson harbored murderers and approved of the killings. He did not kill anyone himself in this case (although there were rumors of bodies being buried at the ranch, the land was turned into a housing development if I recall and I do not recall any stories of “more Manson victims” being discovered).

There are more demonic figures from the 1960s who haven’t been called half the boogey man that Charles Manson is.

I do not advocate his release. But in faireness, you shoudl recognize that prosecutor Bugliosi is just as mad about G.W.Bush’s “murders” as he is about Manson’s.


64 posted on 04/06/2012 2:28:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: dragnet2
To be honest, Vincent Bugliosi looks nearly dead in comparison to Manson.

And both have weird religious beliefs they'd like to impress upon others.

65 posted on 04/06/2012 2:36:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: a fool in paradise
There is no “fairness” across the board, all guilty people should be tried for their crimes and punished accordingly..... but they aren't.
66 posted on 04/06/2012 2:40:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Some not only skate for their murderous crimes, like Ted Kennedy and the Underground folks, but are even CELEBRATED by the Left as HEROES.

A lot of demons walking free and being supported by public paying jobs. And they don’t just do a little clerical work and keep quiet about the things they once did. They actively work to make things BAD for the entire nation.

Manson’s impact is blown out of proportion compared to some villains of the 1960s and 70s.


67 posted on 04/06/2012 2:51:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: SkyDancer
I’m for paroling him as soon as those he killed come back to life.

Who did he kill?

68 posted on 04/06/2012 3:02:24 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

I don’t think Charlie Manson himself killed, but his ‘family’ did, they’re still in prison for the murders. It’s like saying Hitler really didn’t kill anyone. Personally.


69 posted on 04/06/2012 3:24:38 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: a fool in paradise
Notorious killer? Who did he kill?

Shorty Shea - one of the cowboys from the Spahn Ranch

70 posted on 04/06/2012 3:39:35 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Trial? Evidence? Confession?

Or can we string him up next to Zimmerman?

Nixon pronounced Manson guilty before trial just as Obama has nearly done in Zimmerman’s case.

Again, were bodies found on the Spahn Ranch?

If there are more crimes to charge Manson with, go right ahead.

I am bothered when someone is prosecuted for ONE charge out of multiple murders (on separate occasions) and then the criminal tries to get off death row on a technicality for the prosecution or witness testimony. Multiple convictions mean they will stay behind bars or get the needle.

Gary Graham had a big round of celebrity support to try to bust him out even though he shot a man (who lived) through the jaw while attempting to steal his car. If that case had been prosecuted, the victim would have seen some justice in his case.

Rumors and innuendo of other unsolved murders does not a conviction make.


71 posted on 04/06/2012 3:46:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: a fool in paradise

They did find the body

There were witnesses

he was already on death row - why waste the money prosecuting him


72 posted on 04/06/2012 4:12:46 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

He is not on death row. His sentence was commuted to life. That’s why he’s up for parole again.


73 posted on 04/06/2012 4:49:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: a fool in paradise

I read your second sentence and the third one twice. That’s what’s wrong with sentencing.


74 posted on 04/06/2012 4:56:24 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

He wasn’t single out for commutation. It was a temporary suspension of the death penalty. He could be charged for another murder case and given the death penalty. But some think that’s a crazy concept since he’s already in jail.

If he butchered someone, he should be charged with the crime.

For now, he sits in prison with a death sentence for a criminal conspiracy charge that entailed some gobledygook about the Beatles’ White Album by a prosecutor who made national news and remains a celebrity to this day with books on everything from crime to international politics and religion.

The Wonderland murders were as brutal and the prosecution let the perps walk. The drug kingpin behind them was eventually sentenced for some kind of financial crime rather than sending a goon squad and a celebrity porn star to butcher 4 people at home. The drug kingpin was connected with city officials.

LA is a corrupt town. Has been a long time. Jack Webb had the LAPD tap his wife’s phone during their divorce proceedings.


75 posted on 04/06/2012 5:06:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: a fool in paradise

pardon my simplistic view. People on death row should be executed. People who have the sentence of life, should not be granted parole.

May not need to be said. I am neither a lawyer or a politician.


76 posted on 04/06/2012 5:10:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

It was considered “cruel and unusual punishment” to reinstate the death sentences for those who’d had their sentences commuted during the suspension.

The law is a ass.


77 posted on 04/06/2012 5:12:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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