Skip to comments.Tulsa police reportedly make 2 arrests in North Tulsa shootings
Posted on 04/08/2012 3:57:09 AM PDT by Nickname
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After that, who knows.
Glad they apparently caught the scumbags. If found guilty, let ‘em hang.
Wait....wait.....they included the RACE of the perps. I thought that was off-limits.
Oh....my bad; that’s only if the perps are black. Dopey me.
This ain't good coming on the heels of the Trayvon shooting.
Wonder how long it will be before our Dear Leader issues a statement and the Justice Brothers ("Reverend" Al and Jesse) head down there to stoke the fires of racism.
Come, come, dear sir. You are supposed to reflexively spring to the defense of your racial brethren.
There need not be random shootings of someone because of the color of their skin. Truth be told, most of us are mixed...at least many of us.
And we’re all God’s people. The race baiters are evil, no matter the amount of pigmentation in their epidermis. :)
This race riot that Obama and Holder started is sickening. I feel so sorry for all my friends in America that remember what our country used to be.
So glad we've cleared all that up :-\
Looks like both had a facebook page
Check out some of Jake’s comments.
Could one of the series of “incidents”
be this one?
It happened in Tulsa, too.
Strong stomachs required to digest the horror...
That’s good news.
Looks like new details are being added to the initial story I excerpted, as none of that was included in the original article.
Also, I wonder if the two men are related because it’s always odd to me when there’s such a disparity in age. A 19 year old and a 32 year old hanging around together?
Good sleuthing. Those comments are disturbing. But, of course, these people might not be the ones arrested, and the ones arrested are only suspects.
We do. Executed one a couple weeks ago.
It appear’s Jake’s father was shot and killed by a black man two years ago.......
England says on his Facebook page that his father was shot and killed by a black man two years ago. And there is a death of a woman that is the mother of his son only two months ago. Didn’t say how she died...
Don’t know if the press will even mention it.
However, random killing of innocent people is so wrong regardless of the motive. England must pay with his life if guilty.
Seems like Jake’s father Carl England was murdered exactly 2 years ago Thursday by a Pernell Jefferson.
I think we have a motive.
It's just what Obama wanted too. Another way to divide the country, and this is all part of his grand re-election scheme.
Think about it, if he loses he'll blame all the racist whites and spark the final wave of a giant race war in this country.
This thread needs a link to:
Let us not take our eyes off the ball folks. If we are going to save our nation we need to elect a Conservative to occupy the White House. Not obomba or Romney but a Conservative.
On a side note. Happy Resurrection Day.
If it weren’t for Thought Police, we could just hang these guys up for murder if they are convicted. Sadly, tax payer time and money will be spent focusing on if it is a hate crime because he used the “n” word or if it was an alcohol-induced revenge.
Good advice from your link:
“You do not want to live as a trapped and cut-off minority in what might become enemy territory. If you live amidst your civil war enemies, as defined and located within the CW2 Cube, you will be in mortal danger even if your immediate neighbors know, love and respect you.”
It's a been a small scale guerrilla war for now. The shootings in Tulsa show that the whites have begun to engage.
Look out this summer. A hot summer, high gas and food prices, possible government shutdown over the debt ceiling, war in the mid east, financial meltdown in Europe. Throw in a presidential campaign where the incumbent seems perfectly comfortable orchestrating a racial Götterdämmerung. They'll be lucky to keep the trucks rolling and the interstates open.
Just to make it clear for all, you know that the author of that, Matt Bracken, is FReeper Travis McGee, right?
I remember the first hand-sketched version of the meta-cube getting posted here.
>>They’ll be lucky to keep the trucks rolling and the interstates open.
Fortunately most cities have bypass/perimeter highways these days.
Given England used the n-word to describe his father's killer on his Facebook page, you don't have to wait long for the hate crime investigation.
I’m in agreement with his advice. If you live in an enemy camp, get out now. You and your group will be the first ones to suffer casualties when CW II goes hot.
I’d say that it’s imperative that people study his cube analysis to determine just where they stand.
I don't have a doubt in my mind Zippo is going to be forced out and that's when all hell is going to break loose.
Maybe we get to rebuild the holes they live in
and make it a better place? Jeez, I don't even
It’s interesting how his father was killed. May have been BOW crime.
The police identified the arrested men as Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32. They were taken into custody from a home in Tulsa. Police now believe that both England and Watts were in the truck at the same time during the shootings, Brooks said.
Gracias para el linko.
Looking at the one facebook photo of him he is most certainly either “white Hispanic” or “white Native American” or “white African American.”
There’s some sort of reference to England being of Native American descent on his Facebook, which certainly is likely based on being in Oklahoma, and of course the posted picture.
Killing suspect is arrested at Tulsa hospital
Tulsa World (OK) - Thursday, April 8, 2010
Author: MATT BARNARD World Staff Writer
A ex-convict who is implicated in a deadly shooting was found at a hospital Tuesday seeking treatment for injuries he reportedly received in a fight just before the slaying.
Pernell Demond Jefferson is accused of shooting CarlEngland , 47, during an ongoing fight at the Comanche Park apartment complex Monday night. England went to the complex to help his daughter after Jefferson tried to break into her apartment, according to his arrest report.
Jefferson, who records show is either 37 or 38, suffered head and arm injuries in the scuffle and sought treatment at St. John Medical Center the next day, police said. Someone spotted him there and called the police, who arrested him about 2:20 p.m., the report states.
Officer Jason Willingham said a murder complaint against Jefferson is pending.
The shooting reportedly stemmed from a scuffle between Jefferson and Damien Neal, who is England ‘s daughter’s boyfriend.
Neal told officers that he hit Jefferson with a baseball bat before the attempted break-in, police said.
Jefferson then left to find a gun, saying he would come back to “settle the dispute,” the report states. Meanwhile, England arrived and went looking for Jefferson with Neal.
The men soon found him, and another confrontation unfolded. England struck Jefferson with a stick, and Jefferson shot him after falling to the ground, police allege.
England was shot in the chest and died at a hospital. His death was Tulsa’s 11th reported homicide of 2010, police said.
Jefferson is in the Tulsa Jail on complaints of attempted burglary, possession of a firearm after the former commission of a felony and an outstanding traffic warrant.
If the photo does in fact show Jacob Carl England, I don't believe that "white" would be an apt racial categorization of England.
Might be at least part American Indian. To me he looks a bit like Joba Chamberlain (Yankees pitcher from Nebraska and a good guy).
If the suspects' race is going to be made into a big deal here, then the MSM should take care to get it right this time -- unlike what they did in reporting George Zimmerman's background.
“It appears Jakes father was shot and killed by a black man two years ago......”
Read news article here:
An ex-convict who is implicated in a deadly shooting was found at a hospital Tuesday seeking treatment for injuries he received in a fight just before the slaying.
Alvin Watts, however, looks to be of 100% “White Idiot” descent.
Maybe this will turn out to be a missing piece of the puzzle as to motive ... possible revenge for the killing of Jacob England's father?
Tulsa's version of the DC Snipers.
>Check out some of Jakes comments.
Any chance you could post some of the comments here? Facebook wants me to sign up to view anything about him.
I will not be joining facebook.
Jodi Crosby Flatt He is strong minded and he’s responsible for so much at such a young age. He’s always been that way. It’s his Indian heritage! Bless you Alvin-you’re the best. You know where I am if you guys ever need anything, even just a hug.
Thursday at 12:25pm
She is survived by her fiancé Jacob Carl Jake England; children Madysen Haley Wilde, Devin James Wilde and Jacob Carl England, II;
In this country at least trash comes in all shapes,sizes,colors and genders.and yes,that includes "white male".
Jefferson is in jail but apparently was never charged with murder or manslaughter, it seems - just on drug and firearm possession. Presumably due to self-defense?
Now THAT’S interesting - not that it excuses England but I bet it contributed to his rage.