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State Attorney Decides NO Grand Jury In Martin Case
BayNews 9 ^
| 9 April 2012
| Staff
Posted on 04/09/2012 9:00:31 AM PDT by rarestia
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; grandjury; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: snarkytart
"Exactly. This could be a way for this wench to press charges knowing an anonymous grand jury would likely not find a reason to indict. "I don't think so- I think that she knows that prosecutors can easily lead a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, and with all the pressure on this case, that's exactly what will happen. Besides, it doesn't matter- Holder WILL prosecute regardless.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:43:30 AM PDT
by
matthew fuller
(The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
To: rarestia
Sounds like she’s going to prosecute.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:44:13 AM PDT
by
rockabyebaby
(We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
To: rarestia
Grand Juries have another function heretofore ignored on this thread ... they can be used for discovery ... to gather evidence.
Refusal to use a grand jury can mean in this case that the special prosecutor basically has all of the facts that will be forthcoming. In other words, at this point in time, she's assembling pieces of the puzzle and working on her reports and/or filings.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:46:21 AM PDT
by
Zakeet
(Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
To: GOPJ
Zimmerman said the shooting was in self-defense. Sanford police didn't arrest Zimmerman based on its investigation... Emphasis yours - but Sanford PD legally couldn't arrest Zimmerman based on its investigation. Not just wouldn't.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:46:21 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Support the NRA!)
To: snarkytart
Yeah, 'dozens'...LOL
Young college students are the holy grail of the democrat 'we're cool' bullsh*t meme.
Since dems aren't attracting the young, they hire them off Craig's List - and no, they didn't walk over from Daytona Beach... For reason's unknown (/s) the MSM never catches democrats at these easy to discover lies...
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:46:39 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: a fool in paradise
There is also talk of a civil trial for violation of civil rights. State attorneys have nothing to do with Civil Trials unless the state is suing, and that's usually a case of state vs city.
It is almost never state vs person, unless it's a traffic ticket with civil infractions.
There might be criminal statutes of "violation of Civil Rights". Usually that is from the feds and reserved for government officials, so I'll be irate if that charge is filed by the feds. I'll join those claiming a witch hunt if that happens.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:47:58 AM PDT
by
Darren McCarty
(Time for brokered convention)
To: Dan Nunn
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:48:33 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
To: rockabyebaby
I have a feeling that Zimmerman has disappeared so far underground that the law will never find him. Peru, maybe.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:48:41 AM PDT
by
Ciexyz
To: Ciexyz
I’m sure the police know where Zimmerman is - he’s hiding from the Black Panthers KKK group - not from the law.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:50:20 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
To: Dan Nunn
Emphasis yours - but Sanford PD legally couldn't arrest Zimmerman based on its investigation. Not just wouldn't. Don't read too much into that. All that means is that after Zimmerman was detained for the manslaughter investigation, they did not have probable cause to hold him. You can not arrest without probable cause of a crime. At that time (pre-forensic testing, etc), there wasn't probable cause.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:50:51 AM PDT
by
Darren McCarty
(Time for brokered convention)
To: Dan Nunn
“This doesnt mean he wont be charged.”
Agreed, I think it means the prosecutor intends to charge. They didn’t go the Grand Jury route because they knew the evidence was insufficient to get an indictment.
The prosecutor is almost forced by the situation to charge Mr. Zimmerman, although he/she knows that a trial is a waste of time. Zimmerman will not be found guilty of manslaughter by a jury. The “beyond a reasonable doubt” will keep that from happening.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:52:19 AM PDT
by
Sola Veritas
(Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
To: rarestia
This was not unexpected. A FREEPer who lives near Sanford posted a few days ago this was very likely..but the brain dead media, awaiting to be spoon fed, is acting like this is a big deal.
Meanwhile, the Florida and national media, by and large, IGNORE Al Sharpton’s LIE about being in Sanford on Easter.
To: GOPJ
Why is that? Presumption statutes. In common law, self-defense is considered an affirmative defense of a crime and the defendant claiming it has to prove it was self defense based on a preponderance of the evidence (a level less than probable cause and much less than beyond a reasonable doubt). In some states's like Florida, the prosecution has to prove it wasn't self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:54:06 AM PDT
by
Darren McCarty
(Time for brokered convention)
To: rarestia
This means that the prosecutor has decided that she can bypass the Grand Jury and indict Zimmerman without them if she feels the results of the investigation warrant it.
Translation: The Fix is in and Zimmerman is soooooooo screwed.
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:54:37 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
To: rarestia
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posted on
04/09/2012 9:54:59 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: rarestia
I thinking Holder’s office has already talked with her and approved this course of action.
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posted on
04/09/2012 10:01:02 AM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: TomasUSMC
Three times in as many days I have noticed 2-3 blacks in hoodies, hoods up, inappropriately, where I have never noticed them before. The grocery store, Walgreens and a pet supply store. They made no purchases, just wandering around. The weather has been very warm here, no need for hoods.
Something is up. Would love to hear what's being said/coordinated in black churches right now. I am several states away from Florida.
We might not think there is a race war, but they do.
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posted on
04/09/2012 10:01:41 AM PDT
by
VA40
To: Arthurio
Dont consider this good news, a Grand Jury could issue a no bill and end this farce. The prosecutor could charge him without a grand jury. Correct, but there may be a bit of good news, the prosecutor may strongly believe that any Grand Jury would issue a "no bill", making him fearful of any jury and Nifong's fate.
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posted on
04/09/2012 10:05:07 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
To: snarkytart
This could be a way for this wench to press charges knowing an anonymous grand jury would likely not find a reason to indict.
Let her try. Once Hispanics see this guy being railroaded they'll be hitting the self-destruct button on the Democrat Party.
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