Skip to comments.Trayvon Martin: No grand jury in case
Posted on 04/09/2012 9:59:57 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
The special prosecutor assigned to the Trayvon Martin shooting investigation now says she will not take the case before a grand jury tomorrow, as had been scheduled.
Angela Corey, special prosecutor in the case and state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, said Monday that her investigation will continue, but the grand jury will not hear the case.
Corey stressed in a statement that the decision to forego the scheduled grand jury proceedings did not reflect whether or not there will ultimately be a prosecution in the case.
In lieu of a grand jury, Corey's office can choose on its own whether or not to charge George Zimmerman with a crime in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon on Feb. 26.
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The pressure on this woman has got to be incredible, but if she does her job, she will decline to prosecute.
Zimmerman is toast.
This may be because she thinks the evidence points to the local prosecutor making the right decision.
Or it may be because she’s afraid the grand jury would agree with the local prosecutor and the state will file charges itself for political reasons.
Personally, I think the law should be changed so all such deaths should be presented to a grand jury which will make the decision whether charges are justified or not. This will to some extent take politics out of the decision. Such decisions are much to important to be left to the judgment of individual prosecutors.
A special appointee knows she could get an indictment of a ham sandwich from the grand jury and declines. Smells like there is no there there.
They are trying to string this out as long as possible in the hope that the initial politics will be diluted.
Zimmerman won’t be charged with anything.
It was self defense.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Trayvon picked a fight with an armed person and lost. DEAL WITH IT, BLACKS!
I hate to think it, but IMO this woman is just clearing the way to bring charges herself. I’d love to be wrong, but I highly doubt it.
(BTW I wouldn’t be surprised if zimmerman is made to come out of hiding if he is not assassinated)
Earlier Monday, lawyers for the neighborhood watchman said that if Zimmerman is not charged, he would speak out. Zimmerman has not spoken to the media since the shooting.
The press coverage has made getting an impartial jury nearly impossible. Any attempt to prosecute now would turn into a quagmire.
IF she does decline to press charges it will have been IMO one of the most publically courageous, perhaps THE MOST publically courageous act I have ever seen*
*(and of course, alas, this is why I am not expecting it)
The DA filing charges is the safest course of action for Florida and pesonally for the DA.
Zimmerman will have to face trial and the jurors will be under incedible to convict or they will likely will end up with a price on their heads also.
Throwing Zimmerman overboard is the safest way for everyone that gets tied into this.
That's my thought as well. The mob's energy isn't infinite. There won't be any reasoning with them.
On the other side of the fence (from the mob), the law does not want to be in the position of (or having a reputation for) prosecuting innocent people.
Agree but wasn’t that also the case with King Rodney II, especially in LA County?
Zimmerman’s going to have to skip town and change his name in any case... I’m beginning to thing it would be to his advantage to go on trial. If he never has his day in court, he won’t ever get a chance to clear his name.
apparently Angela Corey is a republican, however as we all know on the era of cowardly, appeasing, RINOs that may not mean much.
A special appointee knows she could get an indictment of a ham sandwich from the grand jury and declines. Smells like there is no there there.Exactly! It took 5 posts for someone to get to the meat of the issue.
C'mon, FReepers! You're slow today!
I believe if she decides to charge him, there would then be a preliminary hearing to see if there is enough evidence to go to trial.
So she could still have cover if the preliminary hearing shows that there’s no reason to try him.
heard on news- can;t remember what channel, they expect zimmerman will ‘turn himself in’? Turn himself in FOR WHAt? Anyone else hear that there have been new witnesses that are now saying zimmerman was the aggressor? Seems funny they would be coming out now, but the two witnesses that immediately testified abotu zimmerman said he was innocent and backed up his accoutns?
She’s in a lose-lose situation. But she probably fears the pro-Trayvon forces more than the common-sense folk who believer we are still a nation of laws and not of men. She probably is in fear for her life if she doesn’t charge him.
Corey has handled hundreds of homicide cases involving the justifiable use of deadly force, which makes her an apt prosecutor for the case, according to the AP.
That would be hundreds of cases where there was a homicide and NO charges were brought. That's what "justifiable use of deadly force" implies. The force is justified.
Only one *possible* explanation....the prosecutor desperately wants to convict Zimmerman and she fears that a grand jury won’t indict.A ten year old can figure it out.
I hope he wins a huge settlement and goes on to become a self-defense expert and nationally syndicated radio talker.
I read her for the opposite. She may delay an announcement based on the governor and police suggestion about the strength of the mob, but she's been prosecuting criminals for years, and death threats are part of her daily life already.
Has the looting started yet?
I think I saw a report of a large number of plasma TVs having been seen leaving a local Best Buy.
Even if death threats aren't a factor "Rodney King II" just might be.
Only one *possible* explanation....the prosecutor desperately wants to convict Zimmerman and she fears that a grand jury wont indict.A ten year old can figure it out.A prosecutor can always get an indictment from a grand jurty. That's the easy part. I read this the other way: she doesn't believe he's guilty.
True that. So, a core question becomes which controls, the authorities, or the mob? She's on the side of the authorities. I don't think she takes kindly to attempts to be pushed around by a lawless mob that can't get the facts or the law right.
Law and Order? Or Cave to the Mob?
Always? Usually..maybe.But not always.Particularly with a case like this.
I read this the other way: she doesn't believe he's guilty.
Never having been a prosecutor (or a lawyer for that matter) I suppose that's possible.If he's tried then my theory was probably correct,If he's not,then you're probably correct.
Yet the blacks must be satisfied and a Grand Jury refusal to indict Zimmermann would be a Public Relations disaster along with black riots. It might be noted here that Seminole County Florida is only 9.5% black thus the odds are any Grand Jury would be white and not too sympathetic to "Trayvon's" being the assailant.
Zimmerman must be convicted. His conviction would prevent riots and make for happy blacks. How does one get a conviction in a white county of a man that was legally justified in shooting the "Trayvon?" That is the prosecution's problem. It will be interesting to see how they will manage Zimmerman's conviction.
Why doesn’t the article come up when I click the link? Did their servers get overloaded?
They need this thing to go away. Not filing and stalling is definitely the better course. At least with the few facts we have.
If I were him, I think I'd move to Maricopa Co. AZ, and make Holder try to come after him there.
I’m no lawyer either. I’m just repeating what I’ve heard, that it’s easy for a prosecutor to get a grand jury indictment.
I hope I’m right, for Zimmerman’s sake, that this means the prosecutor in this case has looked at the evidence and has decided there is no case.
What a way to be railroaded into prison, by a Tawana Brawley mob. I think I’d commit suicide.
You're using speculation (and believing some people at their word) to cloud your judgment, much as others have done on the other side.
The prosecutor also has facts and information that has not been released to the general public.
I expect a charge being filed and the subsequent plea deal (due to lack of evidence) is “unlawful discharge of a firearm” or something like that..
Think Bernie Goetz..
And what evidence is there for charging him?
An experienced prosecutor can get a GJ (sometimes single member) to indict just about anybody.
Ihope they don’t take away Zimmerman’s right to carry a concealed weapon...coz’ he is gonna’ need that gun more than ever once this thing is settled...or at least until he can pull up stakes, change his name and appearance, etc.
This may be an indication of good news. Juries tend to be swayed by Oprah Winfrey and Nancy Grace and vote accordingly. They are not to be trusted. Of course, the judicial system is corrupt with many political appointees. The only hope is that there will be a prosecutor who is fair and not file charges.
Amazing how few know how to read with comprehension these days, especially in the legal, political and journalistic professions.
I quite agree. However, a grand jury indictment (or decision not to indict) is at least something resembling due process, not just an administrative decision by a prosecutor.
At common law there used to be something called a coroner’s jury or inquest or something like that. It’s job was to determine the facts of the case, not file charges or indict or convict. Something similar might be a good idea in such cases.
We ought to be at least discussing the probable fact that had Zimmerman rather than Martin wound up dead on the ground, then Martin probably could have also successfully claimed self-defense.
This is perhaps inevitable, since whoever is dead is unable to dispute the version told by the survivor. And without the dead guy’s testimony there is very little evidence about who said or did what to whom.
Like others who follow what’s going on in the Martin killing, I am captivated by all the “speculation” of what happened, what may have happened and what should have happened. I don’t honestly believe that Mr. Zimmerman was intent on harming anyone that morning. Regardless of the outcome, Sharpton, Jackson. Obama and the legions of pathetic race baiters could channel their hate somewhere else. I’m always amazed when these self proclaimed “reverends” spew the most stupidity and hate. The Great Oz has spoken.
I think it might have been an advantage to go to a grand jury, but is it possible to get justice in a trial in Florida under the circumstances? Jurors would probably fear death if they voted for Zimmerman in an open trial.
My bet is that she doesn’t prosecute. She has said from the beginning that she doesn’t need a grand jury. It’s her call.
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