Posted on 04/10/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.
We are the resistance!!
Shove him down our throats today, we shove him up your donkeys in November!!
I can see November from my house!!
And you have spent your entire life at FR as an all or nothing man, refusing any legislation that would roll bakc on a step-wise approach any abortion procedures, even opposing the partial birth abortion ban because it did not outlaw all abortions. You fit right in don’tchaknow, all-or-nothing man.
Thank you for the ping and thanks to all the FReepers who are blessed to see things this way.
Lock n Load
I seem to recall a similar finality when McCain got the GOP nomination, but when Sarah was placed on the ballot too we turned and voted for the ticket because she was a glimmer of hope. Will we look back to those days as ‘the good old days’ as America sinks into Argentinian style collpase with little barry bastard fascist at the helm for at least four more years?
Some corrections to your post:
I DO love my country. But I love God more.
I don’t “hate” Romney; please stop slinging that word around to describe disagreement, as leftwingers do. But I do hate abortion and I hate the practice of homosexuality. How do I align myself with those and sleep at night? What deal can I make with God to convince Him to let me slide?
It’s not about PRIDE and it never was. My candidate, Perry, and my second choice, Newt, both lost. It happens. I would be supporting our candidate right now IF he wasn’t responsible for abortions which are even now, today, happening in Massachusetts. I would vote for him if he hadn’t recently said that sodomites should be able to adopt children. He is FOR throwing kids into a nest of perversion and screwing them up for life.
To your last sentence-—how can I put my country above my God? Can you justify that for me? Or are His principles to be followed only when it’s easy and there’s no sacrifice involved? Are they disposable when you decide there’s a good enough reason to toss them aside?
As Archie Bunker once said, “I ain’t better than nobody.” Believe me on that. I’m no great, magnificent Christian who can afford to preach to others. But I know what God is telling me to do here, and it has nothing to do with my “thoughts”. I wish to heaven I could vote to kick that piece of slime out of the White House, but Romney is a line I can’t cross.
Indeed. AS the Romney apoligistics brigade carries on on FR, I wonder how many of them gave more than a passing thought to their ABO theory. And that includes the ‘name’ conservatives with talk shows and podiums.
Your post pretty well shows the result of ABWhoever, not in theory, but in real world result. How can any thinking person in this country, with the access to the historical data and media accessibility we possess, EVER come to the conclusion that the lesser of evils is a good thing?
To subscribe honestly to the ABO BS, one would literally have to consciously be willing to vote for Bill Ayres on the Republican ticket. If not, they they are not really ABO at all and their entire oft-stated justification collapses.
In truth, they are scared.
They are scared because they understand that there are not enough conservatives left in America to win.
They are scared because they know that they cannot trust the so called conservatives elected to do the constitutionally correct things they were elected to do.
They are scared that liberalism has so infiltrated the Right that they are left with ‘moderation’ as their only ‘hope’ for getting half the split baby.
And lastly (for now) They are scared to face up to the reality of it all after years of spewing conservative jargon that their actions show definitively that they NEVER TRULY BELIEVED IN TO BEGIN WITH.
And I defy any Freeper or conservative ‘celebrity’ to prove me wrong with facts, not emotional “Barack will end America” scaremongering.
Ok; you've announced that YOU evidently have no principles worth living for; but please don't assume I don't.
Finny, is it a long night or are you the earliest riser I know?
I am starting to think that the left and the gop establishment are in collusion.
Why did the establishment gop push Romney so hard? The left media pushes back on him, but not the rabid attacks that conservatives get; the attacks meant to permanently take someone out. Maybe the left recognizes other leftist and goes soft on them; not that they will let him beat Obama. The gop KNEW conservatives would be angry, yet did not care. I think they reasoned that Obama has moved so far left and since there is such a wide gap in values, they should move left and be more like him and the world, hoping to get those “precious” independents who they assume are left and not right. (Anyone remember hearing that the bulk of the voters are conservative? They just don't vote like they should) For the gop-e it's only about winning and not standing up for the constitution and what is right.
If romney wins I predict the gop will direct the party to do what Romney did in the past. SAY one thing; we're prolife, profamily.... fiscally conservative, but DO another. Like in the past Romney and the rino’s will blame the left or say a judge made them do it. They will have bills that look conservative, but when you look closely it will contain compromises that conservatives will abhor.
I believe the gop-e wants socialized medicine, abortion, gay marriage, to allow amnesty for illegal immigrants.... but can't admit it. You have to wonder if Roberts has been compromised by politics. If you take a closer look at his work, not to mention healthcare and illegal immigration, you have to wonder if he was a plant. On the immigration ruling, states can check people to see if they are legal, but it has no teeth because they gave all the real power to the federal government and as we all know; Obama is not enforcing the laws. Roberts is ok with healthcare as long as it's called a tax. That really helps the gop-e frame healthcare as an emergency (never let a crisis go to waste is not only for the left. They will use it as a political weapon and ensure a Romney win. After all this might scare those conservatives into finally voting for him.
Also think about this. In other countries socialism leads to high taxes (ok with Roberts). Politicians can work there way to the 75% taxes other countries have. It is POLITICIANS who will control all that money, and think of the power it can wield. If they do the lobbyist bidding, they will be guaranteed reelection and special favors when they retire. It will take a while before the Greece effect becomes reality and by then they will be out of office and the debt will be someone else’s problem. They will get what they want; power and wealth. To hell with the constitution, the debt, and right and wrong.
Rush, Ann Coulter and most other on the right, talked about the gop-e either not getting invites to the elitist cocktail parties or when they did, they were embarrassed by us prolife, pro family...conservatives. You could tell during the primary that Rush wanted to really get behind Santorum, but something held him back; maybe his contract. It was obvious the talking heads all were directed to back Romney and repeat the matra; only Romney can win. They have turned into the very hypocrites they criticized. Also look at the top donors to Romney; Koch brothers- progay marriage, Adelson-proabortion and gay marriage. Why Romney? Ask the Log Cabin Republicans. His values are bought and paid for like they were in the primary.
The gop-e and romney has been able to hide romney's true actions and beliefs from most of the public. Will romney be able to call himself conservative while doing the opposite and get away with it? What will happen if and when the truth gets out? I think this election is setting stage for a third party that can change politics as we know it.
I agree with you. It seems the GOP just wants us to vote for them and then they conveniently pretend we do not exist. In the interim they are creating a policy of compromise that has yet to benefit the middle class.
They want our money but not our voices. We are being squeezed from above and below and there is never any respite for us. We are hated on both sides of the isle. There are very few who will stand up for the soul of this country once they take a seat in Washington.
Are you insane? The founders would have brandished their swords and loaded their muskets years ago. The whole lot of us are cowards in comparison to those great men. You need to go back and study your American history.
Heh! :-)
Let's presume for a moment that you righteous fellows are successful and Barry bastard commie is re-elected because of the righteous tantrum troops who vote third party and get that 'warm fuzzy feeling of being more righteous than their neighbors'. BUT let's give the benefit of the doubt to your planned strategy of increasing turnout of conservative voters (a pipedream of amazing proportions, given the lack of a viable candidate on the GOP ticket and your powerful efforts to discourage GOP support at the polls), and also say a Republican controlled House and a 50/50 in the Senate is achieved. Would you mind telling this old man just how it is that you see the already unlawful ruling by fiat from the White House being restrained if little barry bastard commie is not removed?
Do you actually believe the commie-in-chief will cease to rule by fiat? Or are you hoping that Republican controlled Congress will reign him in, write sane legislation, or impeach the ineligible, criminal bastard? Rather than just insult folks like me, why don't you explain how your righteous indignation is going to alter the course we are now on with an enemy in the White House, controlling the Justice Department, and carrying a veto pen around in his haughty America hating shirt?
If it is that you believe a Republican control of House and Senate will thwart Barry fascist, then why not at least remove the commie cancer and start with someone who has shown he does at least like America enough to want to be a powerful force therein, even if it has been shown to be rule by wet finger in the wind? It buys time, if nothing else. And don't try to preach that such a buying of time is my religious failing. That's just a bit too far into the self-righteous cave for realistic folks to stomach, so you marginalize yourself with such preaching.
Why not remove little barry bastard, racist, fascist, America hater, so there is a liberal rather than a leftist enemy in the White House? Do you see a third alternative to the commie-in-chief remaining or replacing him with a liberal who has proven he is a finger in the wind man who at least says he want to turn the economy around? How is your belief that somehow Rominy and a Republican controlled Congress goes more liberal than barry fascist any less irrational than believing Republican controlled Congress will thwart the barry bastard commie?
The collapse of the nation and total breakdown of law in communities all across the nation, or worse, martial law under the commie-in-chief using our police and military or UN 'guests' to control the populations is not a viable alternative to Barry or Milt ... unless you long to use your stockpiled foods and fuels while the cities turn into vast zones of starvation, disease and death, and governmental forum in which to try to govern evaporates for lack of making a viable choice to stop the enemy now in power.
You spit insults at folks like me who are afraid the Republic is critically endangered by righteous preachment types who welcome nothing if they cannot have it all their way, knowing the nothing is actually down the drain and no longer circling the bowl.
You presume there will be a semblance of government by the people after four more years of little barry bastard commie. Some of us don't agree, and the current evidence of rule by fiat and globalist agenda driven SCOTUS is a strong indication of how fast these enemy bastards can collapse the nation. What a strategy, insulting folks like me for believing that you will accomplish what little barry bastard commie must have in order to steal the election, so you will be more righteous! Perhaps because inately you realize that is not a winner, so you try the insult trick, albeit wrapped in a cloak of religious righteousness. Insults will reduce turnout, strangling your plan to vote in more conservative control in House nd Senate. But you can shake your head and hold your nose high for being so much more righteous than your neighbor, eh?
The democrats cheat when it's close, and a Soros owned Spanish company is counting a significant percentage of our votes this cycle, so the democrats and globalist cancer can cheat even more effectively if opposition turnout to barry is suppressed by insults and self-righteous preachments.
Am I scared enough to vote for a liberal who puts his liberal wet finger in the wind for direction when called upon? Yes, definitely. I will give a last try to turn this around because I can see clearly it will no longer be possible to turn anything around that is collapsed beyond functioning. You can insult me some more, call me anything you want, but I and many like me will not be squelched from trying something when faced with the nothing you lust for in order to 'teach the GOPe a lesson'.
And just so you know, I'm one of those evil preppers who has been preparing for the collapse, but I don't lust for it to teach the GOPe a lesson because once snuffed out the flame of American exceptionalism will be gone forever since the globalist have a strategy ready to sweep into the void of a lawless America. I don't believe even the GOPe will even be an option when little barry bastard commie is finished with four or more years ahead.
And for the record at Jim Robinson's Freerepublic, I am not a Rominy apologist, so that little smarmy insult is useless to squelch me. I can see by his record what Rominy is. He's a liberal who has used a wet finger for directional probably all his life. But he has also been an administrator of some accomplishment. When he puts that liberal wet finger in the wind, I intend to be a breeze he should not ignore, rather than a source of constant insult and spittle, or worse, a tantrum trooper gone silent because it didn't get the all so it waits for the nothing to arrive and 'teach the GOPe a lesson'.
Voting for someone other than the viable though stinky alternative to littel barry bastard fascist enables the continued rule by that fascist. If the nation is going to collapse regardless of which is at the White House, why not try the one who acts by wet finger in the wind, rather than hoping for the nothing to arrive so you can have the satisfaction of having pissed on the GOPe in the last moment?
When I read reasoning like the following, I don't see where any alternative is contemplated. I see only all or nothing thinking:
If romney wins I predict the gop will direct the party to do what Romney did in the past. SAY one thing; we're prolife, profamily.... fiscally conservative, but DO another. Like in the past Romney and the rino’s will blame the left or say a judge made them do it. They will have bills that look conservative, but when you look closely it will contain compromises that conservatives will abhor.
If you believe that will end the Republic and the venue in which a political struggle can continue, then why vote in such a way as to give the larger enemy of The Republic four more years to work at it?
Nice post. Now go through this thread and find one incorrect thing about my reasoning. Just one.
You want to have a fit because your ABO logic gets shredded? So be it. But it is a fact that...
Mitt Romney is a liberal with a solid record in office of far left liberal governance.
One cannot be a conservative and hold to conservative/constitutional ideals and vote for a man who does not...as his record CLEARLY shows.
Now if that upsets you, then please, by all means, tell me EXACTLY how a Conservative can be a conservative, maintain his conservative/constitutional beliefs and vote for a liberal.
Do that and I’ll formally apologize.
Or don’t whine like a lib for the mockery you get.
Sorry, your smugness shows you really don't want to discuss these issues, you want to gloat and glory in your self-righteousness, just like Tom Hoefling has done to empower himself for so long at FR by taking the all or nothing position which opposed even the ban on partial birth abortion because it didn't ban ALL abortions.
Have nice day
Whats to discuss? A person voting for a liberal is themself a liberal. He’s not a conservative. If he was, he’d vote that way. A man having sex with another man isn’t hetrosexual if he only takes part in ‘certain’ sex acts. Nor can a woman be ‘a little’ pregnant.
Cause and effect. Logic and reason. Want to have a serious conversation? Fine. Start with a serious premise, not one that postulates that voting for a liberal is a wise and smart thing to do.
A person voting for a liberal is themself a liberal. He’s not a conservative. If he was, he’d vote that way. A man having sex with another man isn’t hetrosexual if he only takes part in ‘certain’ sex acts. Nor can a woman be ‘a little’ pregnant.
Ah yes, we can see you're just all about having a 'serious conversation'. Put some ice on it. Oh, and you win on this thread. You have gone over the edge so far that I will not be joining you further.
Whatever. You still have yet to point out a single flaw in anything I posted.
Speaks for itself.
a fascist commie Obama.
Barry bastard commie
Be consistant.
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