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April 10, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/10/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.

We are the resistance!!

Shove him down our throats today, we shove him up your donkeys in November!!

I can see November from my house!!


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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

The President is NOT King!

Romney will not take the Czarist, anti-constitutional approach to implementing the destruction of America, the way Obama IS.

Romney’s sin were opportunistic patronization, NOT ideological hatred for America.

Romneycare was a State level experiment that failed, and he has clearly stated his intent to overturn Obamacare.

Romney is now Pro-Life. Many of today’s strongest Pro-Life advocates were once abortionists themselves. Too bad your bias won’t allow for that.

Judicial appointments were constrained by what was possible.

I guess I’d ask you, why you let your bias blind you to the certain ruin of America under Obama?


951 posted on 04/10/2012 9:31:55 PM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Once-Ler

Apparently satire seems beyond you as well. AB was a great guy. He was wrong on occasion as well.

BTW, why are you hanging out in a place you detest?


952 posted on 04/10/2012 9:34:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Osage Orange

The “idiots” are those proclaiming they are through trying to defeat Obama.

At this point, if you don’t vote for Romney, you are NOT trying to defeat Obama.

Staying home or meaningless protest votes are NOT trying to defeat Obama.


953 posted on 04/10/2012 9:35:51 PM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You obviously think Obama is better. Go for it!


954 posted on 04/10/2012 9:36:39 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

Little point discussing this. You obviously fear Obama to the exclusion of all else. So be it.


955 posted on 04/10/2012 9:39:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: caww
Presidents who grossly disappoint essential bases of support do not get reelected. For GOP presidents, the simple rule of thumb is to keep conservatives reasonably happy.

Otherwise, as happened to Ford in 1976 and Bush in 1996, conservatives back a primary challenger and, even though you win renomination, you are weakened and end up defeated for reelection.

A President Romney would be subject to the same political calculus.

956 posted on 04/10/2012 9:40:46 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SoFloFreeper

I guess I’m alone. I’m going to vote for Romney. Not because I want to, but but because I have to. I’m just as conservative as the next person here, but frankly an unchecked second Obama term without him fearing re-election scares me to death.


957 posted on 04/10/2012 9:40:55 PM PDT by Nobama_ever (Newt/Santorum or Santorum/Newt...NO Rombama and NO 0bama!!!)
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To: sickoflibs

Yours is the most logical post in this thread. Will Mittens keep talking conservative or will he make a 90 degree turn towards severely moderate to appease the centrists. If he starts talking liberal talk now that Rick has left the race, I will abstain in 2012, in spite of knowing Obama in 2nd term will be far more destructive of the country. I detest people who are undependable more than people who have a core belief even if it is not same as mine.


958 posted on 04/10/2012 9:44:10 PM PDT by entropy12 (Every tax payer now owes $150,000 towards the national debt. Greek tragedy on the way here.)
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To: Nobama_ever

Amen! I’m glad to see someone here GETS IT!!


959 posted on 04/10/2012 9:44:25 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Once-Ler

“I will march behind who ever our candidate is”

Do you see what you wrote? “Our candidate”?

Are you a republican or a Conservative?

I think the point so many “vote for Romney because he is THE nominee” people here are missing is that FR is NOT a Republican website.


960 posted on 04/10/2012 9:45:22 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: servantboy777

Not just TX. We in CA and a bunch of other states get screwed too. Why can’t we have a fairer primary system?


961 posted on 04/10/2012 9:46:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: navydad

Thank you! I think we’re just upset. I am too! I got in a really bad funk and quit Newt’s campaign after the Florida primary. I though ‘well, what’s the point?! You give voters some good candidates and they turn around and vote for the most liberal one?!’ It’s ridiculous, but Ive seen what third parties do to electorate counts...especially popular candidates!

No one wields as much power as the presidency- in one single decision-making body. You can take the most conservative candidates to have ever existed and stick them in congress. It’s still not going to have the focus of message as a single conservative in the White House.

The only chance we have is to remind Romney- assuming he wins in November- that we are the reason he’s there.


962 posted on 04/10/2012 9:52:21 PM PDT by Nobama_ever (Newt/Santorum or Santorum/Newt...NO Rombama and NO 0bama!!!)
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To: Nik Naym

“FR is NOT a Republican website.”

And I’m not a Republican. I’m a profound Conservative. But I will vote for the Republican nominee if that is the only way to deny Obama a second term. If he gets re-elected it will mean the destruction of this great country we all love so much.


963 posted on 04/10/2012 9:53:26 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

“Swallow your pride and help save this country!!!!”

Are you saying vote for Romney to save the country?

Voting for Romney to save the country is like throwing an anchor to a drowning man.


964 posted on 04/10/2012 9:53:26 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: sickoflibs
Let’s watch and see what he does and see how fast the true liberal in him comes out. It will. Romney is a liberal.

That is very likely to happen. Time will tell. If that's the case, time will tell how those fellow conservatives who back Romney now will react to it. I hope I don't hear them go so far as make excuses for his leftward shift.

965 posted on 04/10/2012 9:54:39 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: Nik Naym

Then by all means vote for Obama!


966 posted on 04/10/2012 9:55:55 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

Or ... Then by all means sit it out... and re-elect Obama!


967 posted on 04/10/2012 9:57:23 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Norm Lenhart

It’s not extremist to believe as you do. I believe in the constitution and life as well. But you guys are utopian, wishing only to have things exactly as we want them. We will elect a president in nov and it looks like the nominees are a truly evil commie who hates us and a weasely unpleasant liberal moderate.

The heroic act of not stopping evil isn’t all that heroic. Letting a drunk driver crash into your car and kill your kids just so you can say it wasn’t your fault, when you could have swerved to avoid it, is no win.


968 posted on 04/10/2012 9:57:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jim Robinson

969 posted on 04/10/2012 10:02:20 PM PDT by ct_libertarian (W.W.J.G.D? What would John Galt do?)
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To: Yaelle

Good points. None of these anti-Romney guys and gals are our enemies - we’re all on the same side. I’m anti-Romney too! But the most important thing right now, as I see it is... I’m MUCH more... and emphatically so - anti-Obama!


970 posted on 04/10/2012 10:05:02 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad
Obama will destroy this country so fast with EPA, Health & Human Services, Homeland Security, and other unaccountable czar edicts, unfunded mandates

It will be up to Republicans in Congress and at the state level to stop him.

And, why would you trust Romney, who believes in man-made global warming, to do any better a job with the EPA?

971 posted on 04/10/2012 10:05:44 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Yaelle

It’s not Utopian. Look at the list of Romeny’s greatest hits I posted back a few posts. Each and every one of those has an Obama counterpart. And that’s just a fraction of the shared views they have.

So whats the difference? Seriously, please help me understand why it’s OK for Mitt to do the EXACT same things we condemn Obama for. Does it matter that one is a Marxist Jihadi wanabee and one’s a garden variety lib when the end result is the same? Because the end result is all that matters.

Is destroying America OK because the guy doing it claims to be Republican “by voter ID only”? I don’t think it does. In fact I KNOW it does not.


972 posted on 04/10/2012 10:07:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kazan

“It will be up to Republicans in Congress and at the state level to stop him.”

And that has been working just peachy so far, huh! Gimme a break!


973 posted on 04/10/2012 10:08:30 PM PDT by navydad
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To: SoConPubbie

What ever happened to the adults? Personally, I’m not a one issue voter and I have enough patience to not expect 100 years of stead fast liberal gains to be over turned in a single election. But you go ahead and take your ball and go home.

I didn’t leave FR, FR left me just like the rnc did.


974 posted on 04/10/2012 10:11:41 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: navydad

“If he gets re-elected it will mean the destruction of this great country we all love so much.”

You know what? Obama is not really the core problem with America.

The core problem is all the looters who vote for him. Even when he is gone, the looters remain.

No, I will NOT vote for a man who panders to the looters just to gain office. That means I won’t be voting for Obama OR Romney.

We the PRODUCTIVE people of this land WILL survive, even if the country does not.

Did you ever consider that the country we love so much doesn’t exist anymore? It may already be dead, sir.

You need to calm down and get a grip on yourself. Your posts sound like those of a person who is scared.

This is not a time for fear, it is a time for courage.


975 posted on 04/10/2012 10:12:38 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Fu-fu2

I agree.

NObama.


976 posted on 04/10/2012 10:13:10 PM PDT by bitt (“There are only two races of men: the decent and the indecent.” —Viktor Frankl, survivor, Nazi co)
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To: Jim Robinson
They’ve gone a RINO too far.

Good one Jim.

Enough RINOs are enough.

It's the RINO that broke the camel's back.

Spare the rod - spoil the RINO.

RINO me once (twice, three times)shame on you. RINO me four times shame on me.

977 posted on 04/10/2012 10:13:54 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: navydad

“Then by all means vote for Obama!”

I have no intentions of voting for Obama.


978 posted on 04/10/2012 10:14:40 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: JoSixChip
What ever happened to the adults? Personally, I’m not a one issue voter and I have enough patience to not expect 100 years of stead fast liberal gains to be over turned in a single election. But you go ahead and take your ball and go home.

I didn’t leave FR, FR left me just like the rnc did.


That's just it, it's not a single-issue issue. There is absolutely nothing in Romney's record to recommend him to a conservative, NOTHING.

This is Romney's record, try and justify your "I'm not a one issue voter" comment after reading his record:

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA
2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA
3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly
4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA
5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.
6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming
7. Supported the Brady Bill
8. Implemented a state level "Assault" Weapons Bill after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire
9. Supported TARP
10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)
11. Supported McCain-Kennedy(Amenesty)
12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions
13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers

Furthmore, if you are leaving FR, because people here won't vote for such a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal like Mitt Romney, you never were a conservative.
979 posted on 04/10/2012 10:16:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Nik Naym

“That means I won’t be voting for Obama OR Romney.”

Uh, no... That means you’ll be re-electing Obama!


980 posted on 04/10/2012 10:20:11 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Rockingham
A President Romney would be subject to the same political calculus.

He served one term in MA after giving the Dems everything they wanted and ruining what was left of the GOP.

You think he'll do better as a Republican POTUS? I think such a view is fatally naive.

Here is your candidate:



Enjoy defending him.
981 posted on 04/10/2012 10:20:23 PM PDT by Antoninus (The Republican Party (now a wholly owned subsidiary of Romney, Inc.))
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To: SoConPubbie

Those are the “facts”. Anyone attempting to rationalize a vote for MR as a being a ‘conservative’ or a ‘conservative thing’ after reading them is practicing doublespeak of Orwellian proportions.

You iZ or you ain’t. And voting for MR can in no way be justified as such. It flies in the face of everything conservatism stands for.


982 posted on 04/10/2012 10:22:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SoConPubbie
"you never were a conservative."

Are you the keeper of the conservative merit awards?
983 posted on 04/10/2012 10:23:09 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“So whats the difference?”

Obviously they’re the same to you so you might as well just vote for Obama and be happy with it. Unfortunately, there are no perfect candidates. Just the lesser of two evils. Sad fact of life.


984 posted on 04/10/2012 10:25:28 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Nik Naym

“You know what? Obama is not really the core problem with America.”

Ha! You want fries with that Whopper?


985 posted on 04/10/2012 10:27:32 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

“Uh, no... That means you’ll be re-electing Obama!”

Arguing with you Romneybots is like playing chess against a pigeon - no matter how well I play, all the pigeon is going to do is knock over the pieces, crap all over the board and strut around like he is winning.


986 posted on 04/10/2012 10:27:32 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: G Larry

I don’t drink.

Socialism is THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA. Romney supports socialism.

Thus, they are cut from the same cloth. One is just more radical than the other.


987 posted on 04/10/2012 10:27:44 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: navydad

Are you capable of a thought other than “You’re voting for Obama”? Do things like factual information and historical reality offend you?

As a Navy Dad, do you believe in defending the right to vote for people we believe in or just the ones you approve of?


988 posted on 04/10/2012 10:28:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: navydad

“You know what? Obama is not really the core problem with America.”

Ha! You want fries with that Whopper?


actually they are right. Obama is not the core problem. He is the symptom. The problem is the people willing to vote for someone like Obama.

There will ALWAYS be people like Obama trying to obtain power. It’s up to us, the voters, to determine who we should, or should not vote for.


989 posted on 04/10/2012 10:30:03 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: navydad

““You know what? Obama is not really the core problem with America.”

Ha! You want fries with that Whopper?”

So you think that when we get rid of Obama we can just sit back and relax?

Just keep knocking over the pieces.


990 posted on 04/10/2012 10:31:07 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

Nik, this is the result of critical thought being stricken from America’s education system.


991 posted on 04/10/2012 10:33:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Nik, this is the result of critical thought being stricken from America’s education system.”

The sad thing is, it has been that way for the past several generations.


992 posted on 04/10/2012 10:34:58 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am with you. Only way this ends is we ban together and get Newt as the nominee somehow. This ends now or it is always going to be as The Who sang “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” Time for the Tea Party to rev it up into overdrive and change the face of this up coming election. It is either now of never so we as conservatives need to ban to together and start showing up in mass or it will be the USSA!
993 posted on 04/10/2012 10:35:48 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Nik Naym
“Arguing with you Romneybots is like...”

Now you're sounding like a Lib - reverting to namecalling. I've already said many times I'm no Ronmey fan. You must have conveniently missed that.

994 posted on 04/10/2012 10:37:01 PM PDT by navydad
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To: cableguymn

“One is just more radical than the other.”

Exactly! And when presented with the lesser of two evils...


995 posted on 04/10/2012 10:38:51 PM PDT by navydad
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To: JoSixChip
“Are you the keeper of the conservative merit awards”

The OP stated the definition of a conservative that most here agree with and support.

The influx of Romney-bots of deriding the folks here because they will never vote for Romney will not change that fact.

996 posted on 04/10/2012 10:39:30 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Captain Beyond

Thumbs up to that post. Dead right you are!


997 posted on 04/10/2012 10:39:52 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

No fear, no vote, unless there is someone worthy, and at the current time there is none. This country was founded on people that were willing to give their lives for what they believed, and yet so many are willing to sell their souls to vote for a person/party they don’t believe in to possibly shut down another person/party they don’t believe in. It truly is a time for courage. No fear, no vote! Conservatives speak up!


998 posted on 04/10/2012 10:40:11 PM PDT by DandG13
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To: navydad

““Arguing with you Romneybots is like...”

Now you’re sounding like a Lib - reverting to namecalling. I’ve already said many times I’m no Ronmey fan. You must have conveniently missed that.”

Then why are you crapping on the board?


999 posted on 04/10/2012 10:42:07 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Captain Beyond

“Only way this ends is we ban together and get Newt as the nominee somehow.”

As much as some here think I’m for Romney, if you can pull that off, I’ll be with you 100%! Otherwise, I will vote for Romney over Obama.


1,000 posted on 04/10/2012 10:42:12 PM PDT by navydad
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