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Prosecutor Plans Announcement as George Zimmerman's Legal Team Calls It Quits
ABC ^ | April 10, 2012 | ENJOLI FRANCIS, MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CANDACE SMITH

Posted on 04/11/2012 8:52:59 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman

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To: Norseman; All

By Eric (The RED) Holder and Zero’s Dept. of Injustice’s inaction against the NBPP, they are condoning their methods. Did Eric ever take the oath that I once took
“ that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” ?

His condoning the NBPP’s threats, is grounds for impeachment in my eyes. Do “We the People” have any politicians that can/will move on this or does it fall to US?
George Zimmerman stood his ground that night and he probably will stand his ground again. One day in court, maybe?

If the NBPP tribes come, I, like Mr George Zimmerman, will ‘Stand My Ground”. No threat, just Fact!


61 posted on 04/11/2012 10:12:55 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: xrmusn

“Holder made a statement that if the evidence proves it necessary, Federal Civil Rights charges would be placed.”

THAT is going to happen and the lack of evidence will not matter.


62 posted on 04/11/2012 10:16:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Larry381

Bingo. Zimmerman and/or his new attorney ought to be demanding the DOJ recuse themeselves from the investigation.


63 posted on 04/11/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Good grief!!!

I didn’t realize had printed my post twice. I know I am going nuts!!!!


64 posted on 04/11/2012 10:19:29 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: xrmusn

I lived through the 60s when civil rights laws were used often. In those caes and in the recent cases in NYC they all involved govt actors. Never private citizens.


65 posted on 04/11/2012 10:20:35 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: nathanbedford

Finally, a sensible solution is proposed. I knew I could count on you, Nathan!


66 posted on 04/11/2012 10:25:31 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Outlaw Woman

The Special Prosecutor in Florida WILL definitely prosecute. There is no upside for her to unilaterally clear him based on facts or declarations by him of self-defense which some civil rights activists dispute.

On the other hand, she will pull a Pontius Pilate and symbolicly wash her hands of any responsibility if she elects to prosecute and hand it over to a jury.

The system is supposed to be even-handed and fair, without regard to public outcry, but in this case it seems that the public outcry of certain groups will tip the scales of Justice.

Then a jury will have to sort out the facts and not let itself be terrorized by threats of violence if they fail to find Zimmerman guilty.

Zimmerman, even if you are as free of sin as an angel, you are about to be toast, a sacrifice to the mob.


67 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:00 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: nathanbedford

The version I heard was “Good, that simplifies the problem.”


68 posted on 04/11/2012 11:00:18 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

pffft. No biggie. Duplicates happen all the time.


69 posted on 04/11/2012 11:00:49 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: kristinn
...his new attorney ought to be demanding the DOJ recuse themeselves from the investigation.

Holder's remark sent a chill up my spine. This is insane at so many levels.

But I wonder; what's a demagogue to do when he's trapped by his own rhetoric? Holder's run off at the mouth on this before. He's made promises he can't keep. His constituency expects him to follow through with something he knows is wrong.

Seems to me the smart thing would be to shift focus, and maybe that's what he's doing.

So, he opens his mouth again and makes another remark-- one calculated to undermine any hope of a successful prosecution. This is he he escapes becoming the object of his people's anger. He'll have a new rant: constraints on the ability of the AG office to speak candidly, or some such. At any rate, he'll no longer be in the middle of this mess and still retain his credibility to his constituants; that's not so hard to do after all. .

Of course, it's just as likely he intends to persecute Zimmerman, which means that he really is deranged.

70 posted on 04/11/2012 11:05:44 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Outlaw Woman

Thank you. You are very kind and gracious. But I don’t let myself off that easy.


71 posted on 04/11/2012 11:32:44 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: MestaMachine

“He isn’t Jewish unless his MOTHER is Jewish. It has nothing to do with the father.”

You are correct.


72 posted on 04/11/2012 11:52:24 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: nathanbedford

Guess I was wrong...


73 posted on 04/11/2012 12:01:02 PM PDT by RedhairRedhair (I STILL love my (scab made) Toyota)
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To: MestaMachine

I read he was raised Catholic. AFAIK Zimmerman can be just a German derived name anyway.


74 posted on 04/11/2012 12:28:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: RedhairRedhair
Guess I was wrong...

Only in your prognostication as to how politicians would behave but not with respect to what is just and right-and that is the important thing.


75 posted on 04/11/2012 12:56:20 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: rogue yam
 
 
I've been saying this from the get-go. If and when the state declines to prosecute GZ we should have a special thread for self-criticism and penitence by all of the FReepers who gulped down the commie Kool-Aid on this one.
 
Between those and the ones who went to beating the drum for Romney two nanoseconds after Santorum suspended his campaign, I think a spring zotfest would be more appropriate.
 
 

76 posted on 04/11/2012 3:25:41 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Most of their policies, I presume, exclude acts of God.

Not sure about acts of Satan...could be an interesting test case for the courts in the conceivable future.

≤}B^) -- I think.

77 posted on 04/11/2012 7:19:07 PM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: wildbill
On the other hand, she will pull a Pontius Pilate and symbolicly wash her hands of any responsibility if she elects to prosecute and hand it over to a jury.

Just a minor clarification, according to my finite understanding.

The prosecutor can indict the suspect, and then it goes to a grand jury.

(I hear that there are cases where a GJ need not be in the loop, beyond the obvious one of a plea bargain with the defendant, but this seems to be in contravention to the Constitution. But then, a lot of things going on these days are.)

It is up to the grand jury to return a true-bill or no-bill. If a true-bill, the prosecutor can then arraign, arrest, and take the defendant to court.

Anyone with clearer knowledge of this than I, feel free to jump in.

78 posted on 04/11/2012 7:41:29 PM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: Erasmus

From everything I’ve read on this particular case, the prosecutor in Florida does not have to go to the grand jury if she decides to charge him with a crime.


79 posted on 04/11/2012 9:18:45 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Yeah. I eventually noticed that. I wonder what the rationale or justification is for bypassing a GJ?


80 posted on 04/12/2012 10:07:49 AM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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