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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m a Christian and I don’t believe this is right.

Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock.

So much for loving the mother and child...

And I doubt the fourth grader is going to know or care that she was or wasn’t married.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 9:49:34 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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Anyone know is she was plannign on raising the kid herself, or putting it up for adoption? The school could have considered giving her a paid leave of absence for the rest of the year..


9 posted on 04/11/2012 9:55:37 AM PDT by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: TSgt
I’m a Christian and I don’t believe this is right. Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock. So much for loving the mother and child... And I doubt the fourth grader is going to know or care that she was or wasn’t married.

I have no problem with them firing her but they should have kept her on until she had the baby so it was covered under insurance. Now the school will appear heartless.

12 posted on 04/11/2012 9:56:31 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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Taylor said Samford violated the morals clause in her contract and was not a "Christian role model" to her students

This is a Christian school, and every school has a handbook that is handed out every year, to teachers. Among the many requirements is a "Morality Clause". This means, no drunken orgies, no drug use, don't molest students at home, do not be seen by students going into local bars, drinking in public, swearing in public - and many other items.

She knew she was in violation of the school policy - now seems shocked to see that the policy is being enforced. There are other schools with lower standards out there; but is seems pretty hypocritical to tell young teenage girls not to have sex, or to use birth control - then have an unwed and pregnant teacher as a role model.

14 posted on 04/11/2012 9:57:21 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: TSgt

“Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock.”

All too often, which in turn inclines the mother in the direction of an early abortion and life with a guilty secret.


17 posted on 04/11/2012 9:57:51 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: TSgt

So. You would have no problem with sending your child to a school with hypcrites for teachers?

“Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock.”

I guess your solution would be for us to just shut up about abortion and contraception.

Hoo boy.


18 posted on 04/11/2012 9:57:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: TSgt
You are way off. The school has an obligation and a privilege to provide the students with walking talking examples of “practicing what they preach”. Her job is not charity! She is obviously a walking contradiction and the children should not be exposed to her or her fouled witness.
30 posted on 04/11/2012 10:08:10 AM PDT by TheGunny
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That's right! And without access to free, government-sponsored contraception, how could a young woman ever avoid becoming pregnant?

Jeez, just the other day I was walking down the street, minding my own business when I tripped over a f**k.

Had I been a young woman I could have accidentally become pregnant.

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31 posted on 04/11/2012 10:09:24 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: TSgt
Scripturally, love does not mean "getting to break the rules and the laws of God without any consequences." It really doesn't. You can look it up, if you want to.

Further, letting her go from employment does not equal "she's going to have to go get an abortion." It means that she broke her contract and set a bad example for the kids, and the school exercised it's 1st amendment right to determine its own composition.

As with other times when stories like this get posted and the predictable cries of feigned horror are vomited up onto the thread, I strongly suspect that what really offends a lot of folks is not that this woman was fired, but that the school would actually have the audacity to enforce moral standards - standards which a lot of even professing Christians find themselves not wanting to have to abide.

32 posted on 04/11/2012 10:10:16 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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The school has a right to their policy for teachers which I’m sure she was aware of. They could have quietly removed her from the teaching position and put her in another job. If I were the administrator and it fell within policy, that’s what I’d have done (along with doing my best to leave the media out of it).


33 posted on 04/11/2012 10:10:16 AM PDT by babyfreep
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>>Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock.<<

Please explain what one thing has to do with the other. You can make your own decision about premarital sex, but the church (and this school) has made it pretty clear that its not a good example of Christian behavior. If you’re going to work for such a church or school, you follow their teaching.

There’s no ostracism. This was an employment contract where one party breached their duty of performance.


41 posted on 04/11/2012 10:13:50 AM PDT by 1L
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There’s a difference between ostracizing someone and declining to use her as a moral example for one’s children.

As a matter of fact, these things do influence our children. When my daughter was 8 her teacher got pregnant and had a baby out of wedlock. Everyone in the public school was “supportive” and “nonjudgmental.” Trouble is, the children in her class then got the idea that it was fine and normal for women to have babies without a husband. Yes, they do notice, they do look up to their teachers, they do get impressed, they are influenced. And that daily message—that it’s okay to get pregnant and have a baby without a husband—outweighs the disapproving messages their parents try to give them after school.


43 posted on 04/11/2012 10:16:16 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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>>So much for loving the mother and child...<

This is nothing but a STUPID comment. If she failed to show up for work or stole from the school and was fired, would you make this comment? What if she threw an eraser and hit your child?

She’s unloved because she was fired for one thing only? Please.


44 posted on 04/11/2012 10:17:29 AM PDT by 1L
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To: TSgt
I’m a Christian and I don’t believe this is right.

Correction: I’m a "Christian" and I don’t believe this is right.

You need to brush up on Scripture and stop omitting those quotation marks, MikeWUSAF.

57 posted on 04/11/2012 10:27:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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I’m a Christian and I don’t believe this is right. Christians beat their chest about abortion and contraception and then ostracize women who become pregnant out of wedlock. So much for loving the mother and child...

The Bible has other penalties for fornication and/or adultery ("Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matthew 5:17) which most jurisdictions do not enforce.

What does the Bible say to do under these circumstances?

74 posted on 04/11/2012 10:45:59 AM PDT by nonsporting
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This has everything to do but with enforcing a contract. Nobody forced her to sign the contract with her employer and nobody forced her to violate that contract by willingly getting pregnant (I am assuming the pregnancy was not due to a rape).

So, she should suck it up and not complain. If she can’t afford insurance or pregnancy related expenses, then she can always give up the baby for adoption. Next time she will realize what not to get when she can’t afford to.


83 posted on 04/11/2012 11:07:38 AM PDT by sagar
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