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Posted on 04/14/2012 2:29:12 PM PDT by jimbo123
It’s possible the guy thought he’d just met a “friendly local” and when he got her back to the room only then discovered that there would be a cost involved. That may very well be when he threw her out and the trouble started. A hooker who has just wasted time with a man who won’t be paying her might just lie about it to the local authorities. There is way too much we don’t know yet, and in the contact I had with the SS in years past I find it very hard to believe that the entire crew would have been that stupid.
LOL....
“There is way too much we don’t know yet, and in the contact I had with the SS in years past I find it very hard to believe that the entire crew would have been that stupid.”
Agree that the actual facts are not yet known, and about the probity of the SS, at least in the past. Years past is a long time though. Growing up as a military dependent, I saw a -profound- difference in the US military before and after the Vietnam war.
Now they are saying it involved nearly the whole team. THAT is astonishing. SS screw up, Administration set up, hostile third party test or operation? As you say, not enough facts.
The Soviets used to have a section of the KGB devoted to operations of compromise and blackmail. Some of the operations offered the weak what they craved, sometimes it was an out and out frame. Hopefully the truth will out. These days? Well, hopefully it will.
“There are people who willingly went to prostitutes and other people who ended up with prostitutes,” the official said. “Either way, it’s just unacceptable.”
Look, I ordered “Fish and Chips.” Somehow, I ended up with prostitutes. I’d like to see the manager, this is just unacceptable!
The agent was 27-year-old Christopher Dweedy, who had been working for the State Department for 2 1/2 years as of November 5, 2011 when the shooting occurred. So he started within the first 6 months after Obama’s inauguration. He was in Hawaii preparing for Obama to be there for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.
What I can glean from the reports is that the off-duty Dweedy and his victim, 23-year-old Kollin Elderts, got into an argument at a club earlier in the night and Dweedy followed Elderts to a McDonalds where around 2:45am outside the building (and captured on surveillance video) he kicked the unarmed Elderts in the chest. Elderts, who was legally drunk, hit him back and the two started wrestling. In the middle of the fight Dweedy pulled out his gun and shot Elderts in the chest. He claims he acted appropriately to defend himself and the people around him. As far as I know the alcohol test for Dweedy has not been released. In his booking photo he looks quite a bit different than his Linked-In photo. Don’t know if he’s hung over, stoned, or what.
After looking at the video, the police in Waikiki obviously did not believe it was appropriate self-defense because they charged him with 2nd-degree murder. In Hawaii first-degree murder is only allowable in particular circumstances, such as shooting a judge... So second-degree murder in Hawaii is the equivalent of first-degree murder in the rest of the country.
Some superficial similarities to the Trayvon case (shooting an unarmed victim and claiming self-defense), although there is video of what happened and nobody is denying the claims of the Elderts family’s lawyer, that Dweedy followed Elderts from the club to McDonalds AND started the fight at McDonalds. Dweedy is white and married. Elderts is Hawaiian; his cousin, Samson Satele, plays professional football for the Oakland Raiders.
The curious part is the response of the State Department.
The head of the State Dept’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security immediately sent out a memo to everyone in the department, saying,
“I remind everyone that there is an ongoing investigation of this matter by the Honolulu Police Department. Discussion about what happened in Honolulu, Agent Deedy’s state of mind, and/or whether his actions were justified should be limited to the agents investigating the matter.
Also, please keep in mind that communications over the internet that are publicly available (such as blogs, tweets, and bulletin boards) and are on matters of official concern (which this case is) must be reviewed by the Department. Additionally, all written communications, on either government or private accounts, may be subject to discovery in legal proceedings relating to this incident.”
IOW, they didn’t want anybody talking about it.
Dweedy put up $250,000 bail and in late December the judge granted his request to be able to go back to Arlington, VA so he could continue to work at the State Department at a desk job, without his gun and staying within 400 miles of his Artlington, VA home. The rationale was that the State Department would make sure he didn’t disappear to avoid his murder trial. Dweedy’s lawyer has said that Dweedy has the “full support of the State Department”, which (IIRC) is paying for his defense. His trial has been delayed until September of 2012.
A language barrier? Now, they’re saying the security detail sent to Colombia couldn’t speak Spanish? HOGWASH!
Things are getting curiouser and curiouser.
Oops. Staying within 100 miles of his home, not 400 miles.
How could members of an advance team not speak the language? None of this makes sense.
And it’s Deedy, not Dweedy. lol.
More info: http://stayingsafeabroad.blogspot.com/2011/11/murder-of-kollin-k-elderts-in-honolulu.html
Military folks having sex(?) What’s next, dogs chasing cats?
perhaps no comment would be in order.
appreciation for the correction.
I use to work in the military side (communications) at the House House. Be advised this was 20-30 years ago; both the Secret Service and the military people had some HIGH standards to meet to even work there. I have talked to some others that use to work there too. It would seem that “diversity” has made its arrival in both areas. I would like to know the make up of those caught in this little episode. Just have to wonder how many Amish are among the accused.
Just have to wonder how many Amish are among the accused.
0bama might be putting a select group of Amish in close.
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil........
This never happens to me on vacation.
12 agents and a supervisor?
12?
This is B.S.!
Where’s investigative journalism? This is a story just fed to the media. We need more facts on the ground. And if people in government are being threatened by the liberal fascist regime, it be nice if you had some cojones and started talking exposing what’s going on and thinking about the Republic in peril.
sounds credible. I doubt a military man even knew what a prostitute was until 1970 or so!
In spite of what people think about the glamor of the job, it really is not a good life, particularly for married folks. Many agents end up divorced, because they spend so much time away from their families. For many years now, the service has had trouble keeping agents because of the lousy working conditions. I have heard that there is about a 3-way split between single guys, married men who do not cat around while away, and married men who do cheat on their spouses.
Look for this to get worse unless the agency can address some of the problems.
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