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Taliban Strike Afghan Capital and Provinces
NY Times ^

Posted on 04/15/2012 4:24:16 AM PDT by nuconvert

The Taliban staged multiple and sustained attacks across Kabul and eastern Afghanistan on Sunday hitting the heavily secured diplomatic neighborhood of Kabul and the Parliament area as well as Afghan government installations in at least two provinces.

A NATO spokesman confirmed multiple attacks had occurred across Kabul, potentially in as many as seven locations.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghan; afghanistan; capital; kabul; provinces; strike; taliban; talibanattack

1 posted on 04/15/2012 4:24:19 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

When WW III is over all that’ll be left are the cockroaches and the taliban....not that there’s much difference.


2 posted on 04/15/2012 4:26:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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Attacks include multiple suicide bombers, small arms fire & rocket attacks


3 posted on 04/15/2012 4:26:57 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Oooooh...those ever-fun-loving moozlums. Their urge to kill is insatiable. Remember...all cultures are equal...who are we to judge?


4 posted on 04/15/2012 4:32:02 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: nuconvert
"Attacks include multiple suicide bombers, small arms fire & rocket attacks."

It is time to turn the place into rubble and let them glow in the dark. We haven't tested a lot of our new weapons on live targets. This would be a good time.
I favor that over just leaving. . . . . .

5 posted on 04/15/2012 4:34:32 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: nuconvert
Reuters, from last December.....

After 10 months of secret dialogue with Afghanistan's Taliban insurgents, senior U.S. officials say the talks have reached a critical juncture and they will soon know whether a breakthrough is possible, leading to peace talks whose ultimate goal is to end the Afghan war.

So, how's that dialogue working out for ya, Barack?

6 posted on 04/15/2012 4:37:09 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Voter#537

Yup. Get our people out and then roast the whole place. Otherwise it’s a Taliban launchpad forever.

Too bad for their women though. Too bad for our fallen brave ones & their families.

A total waste.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 5:19:43 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: elcid1970

The surge in Afghanistan wasn’t effective, and now the Taliban is in a counter-surge? Undoubtedly the worst case scenario resulting.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 5:24:41 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

Why are we there at all? At this point, what is our national interest there? What is our mission objective?


9 posted on 04/15/2012 5:36:41 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: Scutter

We’re there to tie up troops, demoralize our fighting men and women, and provide occasional political distractions.
In Obumoville it’s “Bush’s War” don’t ya know.


10 posted on 04/15/2012 5:50:31 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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11 posted on 04/15/2012 6:16:43 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: hal ogen

The thing is that the perception is plaid here. The Talebans are a rogue dictatorial government which in its mind is quelling an antiTaleban insurection. If we let them have their authority, then we are submitting to their government. It’s how ludicrous they are.

The language is wrong, they are not independent insurgents, they try to run things. Their attacks use the old herding methods and instincts of the Bedouin practices.


12 posted on 04/15/2012 6:17:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Scutter

We were supposed to herd the muslims and get the wolf Taleban out, but our PC psyops is a complete failure. Our language of “Islam is peace”,”insurgent”, and “war of contingency” have degraded the mission against terrorists and serious violent herders.

Their attacks are shaped into herding us instead of us herding them as per our failed fundamentals of our psy op. As a result we are not sure what we are doing now aside from providing like slaves arms to people we do not even know.


13 posted on 04/15/2012 6:21:42 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: nuconvert
Obama's strategy...make a surge in Afhanistan and then gut it before you do it, then have sustained talks with the Taliban that Obama was convinced would lead to "peace in out time."

How's that hope and change working out for you Barry?

The Man Who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm

14 posted on 04/15/2012 6:31:44 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Scutter

We’re nation building...you know, because 7th century Islamic filth want to be just like the good old USA!


15 posted on 04/15/2012 6:32:28 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Scutter

For soetoro to have as many American troops killed as possible. That’s the mission.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 6:35:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: nuconvert

We’re in the end phase now.

This is Barry’s Tet.

The sheer incompetence and corruption of this idiot administration is astounding. The only problem is that our wonderful brave young people over there are paying for it.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: Scutter
"Why are we there at all? At this point, what is our national interest there? What is our mission objective?"

Opium fields guarded by U.S. troops in Afghanistan

18 posted on 04/15/2012 6:46:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: nuconvert

Our admirals and generals have failed us.


19 posted on 04/15/2012 6:48:00 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Scutter; Son House
Why are we there at all? At this point, what is our national interest there? What is our mission objective?

Don't you know if we don't fight them over there we'll have the fight them here?

I live overseas and I know that line of thought is pure bullshit.

20 posted on 04/15/2012 6:50:54 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Doofer
fight them over there we'll have the fight them here

That has been quite effective against the middle east jihadists. In Afghanistan, it does not in anyway apply to Taliban. Taliban don't care about attacking western countries. Their just a corrupt local governing body. For Al Queda and other global jihadists, we have severely disrupted their organizations and network by fighting them over there. Also, we kept their militants busy fighting on foreign lands so they weren't traveling over sees to attack here.

21 posted on 04/15/2012 7:06:54 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: nuconvert

Remember, Zimmerman had more leeway to shoot Trayvon Martin than our soldiers have to shoot insurgents.


22 posted on 04/15/2012 7:07:24 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: nuconvert

Why are we trying to save a crappy country that is little more than a narco state? Is the U.S. getting some cut from the heroin trade about which I don’t know?


23 posted on 04/15/2012 8:00:04 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

“Is the U.S. getting some cut from the heroin trade about which I don’t know?”

For example, does Afghan drug profits support some off-the-books U.S. operations? Otherwise, I just can’t find any conceivable basis for the U.S. investing so much into a crappy plot of land which probably is a gateway directly to Hell.

I never bought this war on terror anyhow. I mean face it: if the terror threat were that real wouldn’t we make just a little effort to secure the borders? And yet thousands of miles along the Mexico and Canada borders are wide open (and our radar capacity on the Canadian border can’t even pick up low-flying aircraft in long stretches) and I think that suggests pretty convincingly the whole terror threat is a tad overstated.


24 posted on 04/15/2012 8:05:50 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: nuconvert

How do you say “TET” in Arabic?


25 posted on 04/15/2012 9:11:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: nuconvert


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men [the Taliban], have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
...
 
 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 

26 posted on 04/15/2012 9:18:01 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Scutter

>>Why are we there at all?

US Soldiers guarding  pium in Afghanistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIF6yvTL6k&feature=related


 

" Obama’s First Order: Don’t Hurt the  pium "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2287687/posts

 


"Afghanistan still world's top  pium supplier, despite 10 years of US-led war

Despite increased eradication efforts in Afghanistan, opium cultivation rose by 7 percent in 2011 as compared to last year, according to a new United Nations report. Production is up 61 percent."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2011/1011/Afghanistan-still-world-s-top-opium-supplier-despite-10-years-of-US-led-war

 

The Appetite of Tyranny is never far removed from the Tyranny of the Appetite.

Marines ignore  pium — Taliban's cash crop

Marines fear locals would fight back if they destroyed the lucrative plants

updated 4:38 p.m. MT, Tues., May 6, 2008


Noting to see there. Mooove along.



Tata.

27 posted on 04/15/2012 9:24:03 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: nuconvert
Please pray for every American in Afghanistan....military or civilian.

Thank you.

28 posted on 04/15/2012 9:24:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Still in full bloom 1 year later. Got any leftover napalm?


29 posted on 04/15/2012 9:44:07 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: nuconvert

what did O’bammy shoot this morning?

our nation’s biggest handicap.


30 posted on 04/15/2012 9:48:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: nuconvert

Springtime in Kabull.. more of O’s green ‘shoots’?


31 posted on 04/15/2012 9:57:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Scutter

That’s the question for Defense Secretary Leon Panetta. Going on 3 years for the Afghanistan surge;

Published March 13, 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/13/panetta-awaits-withdrawal-plan-for-afghan-surge-forces/

As many as 23,000 troops who were part of the 2009 surge in Afghanistan are supposed to come home this fall, though Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Tuesday he was awaiting plans from Gen. John Allen, the top commander in Afghanistan, on the strategy.


32 posted on 04/15/2012 10:10:36 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"When WW III is over all that’ll be left are the cockroaches and the taliban....not that there’s much difference."

And Mosin Nagant rifles.


33 posted on 04/15/2012 11:07:22 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Voter#537

Boy-—do I miss napalm!


34 posted on 04/15/2012 11:46:45 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Scutter

At one point, it seemed that victory meant once we had killed Osama bin Laden. But then again, we could have argued that bin Laden was essentially crippled on the international scale, so I don’t have a clue anymore.


35 posted on 04/15/2012 2:04:01 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009; Son House; LomanBill; Doofer; Joe 6-pack; onedoug; EEGator; JudgemAll; ...

My younger son and I recently watched this movie, “Restrepo”. It is a documentary that follows a US Army platoon over a 15 month assignment in the Korengal valley.

My main take-away was that the mission seemed to be without focus, and that the troops were fighting a largely defensive battle and spending a lot of energy trying to build goodwill with the locals. The locals, mostly farmers, who clearly did not care for the Taliban, seemed to just want the fighting to stop, even if it meant the return of the Taliban.

Even allowing for a healthy liberal bias on the part of the film-makers, it paints a very grim picture of the situation there.

I was skeptical about Afghanistan even when Bush was CIC. Afghanistan is not like Iraq. Iraq has in past centuries been a reasonably civilized place, and it has natural resources (oil) that can give it a vibrant economy. Afghanistan is a thankless sh*thole, with only one viable export: opium. So even if you buy into this nation-building business, it is hard to fathom it being successful in Afghanistan. On top of that, the terrain there that makes it impractical to wage the kind of air war we did in Iraq. The enemy just disappears into the mountains and waits for you to leave.

With Odumbo in charge, and what I am sure are libtarded ROE, I am convinced that we need to get out of there ASAP.


36 posted on 04/15/2012 2:52:35 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: nuconvert

“We will bring peace and democracy to Afghanistan which the people there want!”

/ stupid things Republicans used to say


37 posted on 04/15/2012 3:11:14 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Scutter

Good film, and I appreciate the insight. I watched a BBC Film called “The Power of Nightmares” The entire purpose of the film was to explain how the entire threat of terrorism was totally overhyped. There was a blatant bias and the narrow scope of this film by showing it only during the Bush Administration time period, but think about it, if the 9/11 Hijackers didn’t need to use Afghanistan to carry out their attacks, and weren’t shown to be there, then what was the point? Also, the film explained a great deal of issues that were overhyped, such as the “dirty bomb” or the real proportion of the U.S. Population that actually gets fragged by terrorists as opposed to domestic criminal activity. All-in-all pretty informative, but I walked away from the film with the general fact that the actual threat from Afghanistan alone, unless there is some information that someone can really spit out, isn’t really all that much of a threat, or at least gets overhyped on the security measures, anyways.


38 posted on 04/15/2012 5:27:14 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: tcrlaf

“How do you say “TET” in Arabic?”

Ramadan


39 posted on 04/15/2012 5:28:50 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

I’ll have to see if I can find a copy of that film to watch. It is true that, statistically speaking, terrorism is a much smaller threat to a US citizen’s life than any other number of other things (like, for example, the risk of an auto accident). But you also need to consider the psychological and economic impact of terrorism. When you do that, you have to admit that it’s a pretty big deal. For example, a few incidents could make people afraid of air travel. This could have a devastating impact on our economy.


40 posted on 04/15/2012 6:15:30 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: huldah1776

Yeah, if we did a full withdrawal of forces the final thing I would do is napalm the opium crops...all of it.


41 posted on 04/15/2012 9:27:15 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: nuconvert

Tet offensive?


42 posted on 04/17/2012 9:23:50 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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