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Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams

Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.

Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.

Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.

Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.

My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".

I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.

But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?

What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.

OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.

Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.

I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.

I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.

Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.

Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.

My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.

We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.

So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.

13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...

It's over.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aobtd; defeatobama; fourmoreyears; goodfreepergone; jimrobinson; nooooooo; opus; suicidepill
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To: Williams

If you’ve been here 13 years you ought to know better and presume that Jim will change his tune given a little time. Heck, all Romney would have to do is choose Palin as his veep and all of a sudden FR would be in “If you’re not here to elect Romney, then GTFO!” mode. You know this if you’ve been here as long as I have.

I’ve been here 14 years, have never been banned, never written an opus when I disagree with the founder, and have only been edited once or twice. If Jim wants to be a kamikaze pilot, that’s his choice. I can’t afford the luxury, but I won’t make a big public spectacle out of refusing to fly a suicidal one way mission with him, or speaking ill of his intentions. I just sit quietly and wait until the FR status quo changes it’s mind to something I’m more inclined to agree with. Isn’t that what the Reagan doctrine would guide us in doing?


41 posted on 04/17/2012 5:13:29 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Norm Lenhart
So tell me what you are going to do. Not vote. Write in someone else name. Vote for Obama. Those seem to be your choices. Which one do you choose? Let me know if there is another choice I didn't mention.

All polls and common sense tells us that Romney is going to be the one to run. Not my choice either but I'm not going to throw my vote away as it is too important to dump the Zero. Come on here, give me some hope with your good idea.

42 posted on 04/17/2012 5:14:10 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Williams

It’s over.


Don’t go.


43 posted on 04/17/2012 5:14:10 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Charter Member of the Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Purity” we got with Romney, pure LIBERAL


44 posted on 04/17/2012 5:14:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Williams

You are correct. Vote for a RINO, push a RINO on FR, post insults, accusations, lies and use fear mongering tactics on those who resist going along with RINO tyranny, you are a RINO.

Reminds me of Mitt Romney. Romney boasts of a three decades long history of supporting abortion (ever since his mother ran for office in the 70’s). Claims abortion should be safe and legal in America and he would do nothing to oppose a woman’s right to choose. Claimed Roe v Wade is settled law and BOASTED that he would protect and sustain it as such. Appointed liberal judges, Installed $50.00 taxpayer funded/subsidized abortion as state law. Installed Planned Parenthood on the board. And then has the audacity to claim he’s always been pro-life and refuses the pro-choice label?

Not a RINO, my ass!! I don’t apologize or retreat. I reload!!


45 posted on 04/17/2012 5:14:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: driftdiver

Because if he does its the end of freedom and America.

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Ah yes. The doom and gloom defense. Obama will destroy America.

Puh-leaze. Even if that were true, I still would not vote for Romney.

Be positive here, IF (big if) Bammie wins, then he will be the weakest lame duck doofus since Carter. (Yeah I know - he never got a 2nd term)


46 posted on 04/17/2012 5:15:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Williams

You can easily avoid all this by helping to NOT nominate Romney


47 posted on 04/17/2012 5:15:54 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Lazamataz

True enough.

I remember The Great Purge that happened after Jim went off on GWB (I will never vote for that coke-head!)

Oh....for some Clarity.


48 posted on 04/17/2012 5:15:54 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: driftdiver

The RINO’s are trying hard to lose this election, we should not assist them.

Vote for Conservatives instead


49 posted on 04/17/2012 5:17:10 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Lazamataz
...a vote for Romney is like voting for cancer, as opposed to voting for a .40 caliber slug to the forehead. I understand those who would vote for cancer over the slug, since it would give a person a chance to get their affairs in order.

Your analogy is flawed. A choice between 0baMao and Romney is like a murderer giving you a choice between being shot or beheaded. If you choose either one you have just acceded to being killed which is suicide. The only moral and ethical choice is to force the murderer to choose instead of participating in it.

50 posted on 04/17/2012 5:17:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Williams

“Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court”

Oh, but Romney would nominate the same judges that Obama would!/sarcasm.


51 posted on 04/17/2012 5:18:08 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Fighting the Left does not mean that we have to adopt all of their tactics.)
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To: beandog

He or any other conservative deserve no respect for advocating that a liberal become president. Period. That applies to everyone. A person cannot serve two masters. It is not logically possible. If you cease supporting conservative ideals, philosophy and candidates by giving that support to a man who does not share conservative ideals, philosophy ect, please explain in detail who one can logically retain any claim on being ‘Conservative’. You are supporting that which you despise.


52 posted on 04/17/2012 5:18:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL; Norm Lenhart; Jim Robinson; Williams

By the way, I TOTALLY GET AND UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH JimRob’s decision to not ‘fall in line’.

Every now and again, JR gets the Muse upon him. He waxed so eloquent in one particular message, it practically brought tears. I cannot match his wonderful phraseology, but the takeaway point was, “If our conservative and Tea Party leaders fold, then socialism — in the Republican Party form — has won. Better we who are leaders stay true, and let’s let the chips fall where they may.”

Wonderfully stated; very principled; and an utterly embraceable message.

Williams, if you are still reading this, perhaps this will counsel you as to why JR is standing fast. He’s a rare man of true principle, and I for one am delighted he runs the forum with PRINCIPLE and CONVICTION.

Can you co-exist with such a man? Yes, in your eyes, he may be causing an unintended result. But can you still respect the principles of the man, and accord him respect and deference that he is due?


53 posted on 04/17/2012 5:18:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Romney is a liberal, not a moderate.

A liberal.

This is a conservative site.


54 posted on 04/17/2012 5:18:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Williams
I guess Cheney is considered RINO here these days too. LOL.

Best of luck.

55 posted on 04/17/2012 5:19:15 PM PDT by what's up
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To: true believer forever
You have some very strong principles. And I admire them. But you might be missing the point. It’s one thing to vote for Romney when and IF he is on the ballot.

No, I think you're mistaken. The seeming majority (or at least the loudest) here would prefer that Obama is re-elected. They don't have the courage to actually -vote- for him, but they'll be happy to have it happen just to poke Mitt in the eye. Bitterness does that to people.

56 posted on 04/17/2012 5:20:01 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: TigersEye

Nossir, I respectfully disagree. Obama will be a quick cancelling of the American concept, and Romney will be a slower one. A cancelling, nonetheless, but a slower one.

The analogy to cancer holds, in my opinion.


57 posted on 04/17/2012 5:20:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Williams

I don’t know what the problem was, but refusing to vote for Romney is NOT the same as voting for Obama.

When you have a choice of Hitler or Stalin, you don’t vote for either of them. You hope for a third choice.

I think Romney is a little better than Obama, but not by a whole lot. Romney is the worst candidate the Republicans have ever come up with, and they’ve come up with some incredibly bad ones over the years.

I understand that some people are troubled by this refusal to vote for Romney. But you won’t solve the problem if you accuse people of voting for Obama, when they are simply refusing to vote for Romney. We can no longer afford to have TWO corrupt parties of evil. Obama was only elected in the first place because the Republican establishment came up with McCain. We can still hope and pray that a way out will be found.


58 posted on 04/17/2012 5:20:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Williams

I would hope you would stay. Stick around and see what happens.

Look at it like eating with your in-laws. You may not agree with everything, or many things they do, but you can all agree their daughter is wonderful.

Discuss what you like to discuss, avoid what causes contention. Everyone has to do this to some extent. This is an internet forum, it is about the community.

This too will pass.


59 posted on 04/17/2012 5:22:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Gay State Conservative
For some absolute purity is more important than pragmatism.

No, principles are more important than pragmatism. Once you sacrifice your principles for pragmatism, what else will you sacrifice? I recall the history of the Whig Party; hey, they were pragmatic. Would you have been pragmatic in accepting the Fugitive Slave Act in the Compromise of 1850? After all, it avoided civil war between the north and south! Oh, wait...

60 posted on 04/17/2012 5:22:23 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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