Posted on 04/20/2012 10:59:29 AM PDT by unique1
Black boxes in cars? We’ve reported on it before, but a bill requiring such devices has recently passed the U.S. Senate and is expected to fare the same in the House.
If it goes all the way, cars built after 2015 will all have tattlers to give specific information on a car’s activity. If implemented, the devices are meant to be used by emergency responders during an accident, but the applications are far from limited to those incidents.
Some are worried that installing such devices offer unprecedented invasions of privacy, bordering on big brother level surveillance of everyday citizens. Going to the wrong place, or driving the wrong way could flag you for suspicious activity (in theory).
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Insurance co's are also pushing this crap. Look at Progresive and that little do dad you plug in your cigarette lighter so they can observe your driving.
It's voluntary now but will become mandatory within a few years by all the carriers.
I predict lots of car buying prior to 2015
The only solution is going to be civil war. They will never, never, never stop until they are made to do so.
I guess we’ll have to start “jail breaking” our cars now.
Surveillance is privacy.
Preventing accidents?? They say it's too soon to tell....BALONEY....
If these are Democrat boxes, why is this going to sail through the Republican House?
Certainly there would be.
The car’s location and speed will most likely be calculated using GPS.
It would be easy to defeat such a device by covering the antenna with aluminum foil.
But you can bet that such tampering will be a felony as defined in the bill.
Removing it after an accident would be tampering with evidence.
A 2007 S80 alm,ost certainly has an event data recorder. It is mentioned in the Owner’s manual. Section 6.
http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/2007/2007_s80/07s80_00.htm
It’s sometimes difficult to tell whether a car has one or not. NHTSA began to talk about mandating them in around 2003, and mfgs began installing them around then. By about 2005, they were becoming common. By about 2010, they were almost universal.
The mandated date was originally in 2010, then changed to 2012, for EDRs.
My 2008 Jeep specifically says it has one in the owner’s manual.
I’d rather pay the price than have big brother tracking me.
I think there may be more electric cars( with gas engine back up)being purchased and disconnect the electrical wires so the ref in the booth thinks you’re still at home waiting for your welfare check.
Or (as in the movie where Sarah Bullock drove a bus all over the city), someone figures a way to loop the data being sent to ‘’HAL’’ and confuses the hell out of it
So, if you lose the owner's manual, you're safe?
Passing this along to Mr. Megan - thank you!
Nobody likes a grammar nazi...
I escaped from high school a while ago, and I’m not going back. :-)
(insert faceplant photo here)
Wait a cotton pickin minute....isn't the house majority, Republican?
Why the Republicans wouldn't advocate policy that strips Americans of their freedoms and liberty would they?
Wait a cotton pickin minute....isn't the house majority, Republican?
Why the Republicans wouldn't advocate policy that strips Americans of their freedoms and liberty would they?
Baucus (D), Inhofe (R) and Vitter (R) were the sponsors of this Bill.
Just some good ole Republicans and a Leftist looking out for you.
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