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More details about Zimmerman emerge during bond hearing ("Racist" meme just flew out the window)
CNN ^ | April 20, 2012 | Michael Pearson

Posted on 04/20/2012 5:29:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For nearly two months, George Zimmerman has been largely a cipher, a riddle whose voice has been heard only in 911 calls reporting a young man acting "real suspicious."

On Friday, the world learned more about Zimmerman as he, his wife and parents testified during a hearing in Sanford, Florida, to decide whether he would be released on bond while awaiting trial on a second-degree murder charge in the February 26 death of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's wife depicted him as a man she has never seen angry. His father said he was a truthful man who had long been concerned with helping others. And his mother said he had organized a campaign to "get justice" for a homeless man who had been beaten in Sanford, as well as mentoring a 14-year-old African-American boy from a dangerous Orlando neighborhood.

Zimmerman has acknowledged killing Martin during an encounter in his Sanford neighborhood, saying he shot in self-defense. Critics have depicted the Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer as a racist who profiled Martin because he was African-American.

His family said nothing could be further from the truth.

"I know that he is very protective of people, very protective of homeless people and also of children" -- regardless of their race, Gladys Zimmerman said in testimony meant to prove to Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. that Zimmerman would not be a threat to the community if allowed to leave jail while awaiting trial.

She said he has been a mentoring the 14-year-old for three years even though the program he had joined shut down after only nine months because of the economy.

She said she begged him not to go because of the danger.

"He said, 'Mom, if I don't go, they don't have nobody,'" Gladys Zimmerman said....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: lodi90

That is good to know.I am sure the WH picked this because of the last name being Zimmerman and they thought they had a white guy.....


101 posted on 04/20/2012 10:33:50 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: TigersEye

“What are you going to do about the witness who says there was a chase?
Link please. That’s the first time I’ve heard that. “

I watched the whole bail hearing today, start to finish. Bet nobody else posting can make that statement, only hurl insults it seems.

I get informed first, spout my opinions later. I don’t care who he is, my tagline is accurate and there was nothing believable in anything he said. Authorities say stay in your car, you stay in your car. Guess thinking like that makes me a liberal.


102 posted on 04/20/2012 10:40:36 PM PDT by at bay (Did you say you're sorry to the police? "No sir.(then) I don't remember...(then) I believe I did.")
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To: chris_bdba

I was just pointing out some of the many lies that the media told about this.

Another poster seems to be convinced of Zs guilt.


103 posted on 04/20/2012 10:42:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: at bay
Did you miss the part where the investigator admitted in court that they had no evidence whatsoever that Z wasn't going back to his vehicle as was suggested to him by the non-emergency dispatcher?

O'MARA: My question was do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car?

GILBREATH: No.

O'MARA: No evidence. Correct?

GILBREATH: Understanding -- are you talking about at that point in time?

O'MARA: Since. Today. Do you have any evidence that conflicts with his suggestion that he had turned around and went back to his car?

GILBREATH: Other than his statement, no.


104 posted on 04/20/2012 10:57:42 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just made a donation as well for the same reason.
I checked out the past crimes of Zimmerman on the web - 2 arrests on the same day in July 2006 —one for resisting arrest with violence (hitting a police officer - closed with no action) and one for resisting arrest with no violence (closed with no action). What the heck does that mean? I guarantee you if this was a serious crime of assaulting a cop, it wouldn’t have just been closed. I found this on a website that investigates police brutality and misconduct.

George Michael Zimmerman’s Criminal Record

Search Menu New Criminal Search Click Here Location : Orange CountyRecord Count:4Search By: Defendant Exact Name: on Party Search Mode: Name Last Name: Zimmerman First Name: George Case Status: All Sort By: Filed Date Case NumberCitation NumberDefendant InfoFiled/Location/Judicial OfficerType/StatusCharge(s)2005-CF-009525-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL

10/05/1983

07/18/2005

Div 10

OKane, Julie H

Criminal Felony

Closed

CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE

BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL

10/05/1983

07/18/2005

Orlando

Miller, W Michael

Misdemeanor

Closed

CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE
2006-TR-219362-A-O
0244RCN

ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL

12/14/2006

Orlando

Officer, 98 Hearing

Civil Traffic Infraction

Closed

TR- UNLAWFUL SPEED
2006-TR-219364-A-O
0245RCN

ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL

12/14/2006

Orlando

Officer, 98 Hearing

Civil Traffic Infraction

Closed

TR- CERT OF REGISTRATION POSSESS REQ


105 posted on 04/20/2012 11:03:43 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: at bay
You were misinformed about the 911 calls, you were misinformed about the incident with the undercover cop so you're not informed. You're here misinforming others.

No link to back up your claim about the witness either. Just some non-sequitur about watching the bail hearing. I've heard it too.

106 posted on 04/20/2012 11:07:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: at bay
An innocent child is dead.

Wrong! A wannabe gang-banger is dead. George Zimmerman took out the trash, for which we should be thankful.

Trayvon Martin's Twitter handle was NO_LIMIT_NIGGA. His hero, whose mugshot he chose as his Twitter page background, was convicted murderer Corey Miller, aka C-Murder. Trayvon's Twitter handle came from the name of C-Murder's record company, No Limit Records./p>


Corey Miller
aka C-Murder

C-Murder is doing life without parole for murdering a sixteen-year-old at a Louisiana night club in 2002.

107 posted on 04/20/2012 11:14:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TigersEye

I wonder if the poster has heard the prosecution has NO evidence proving Zimmerman confronted Martin? NONE.


108 posted on 04/20/2012 11:15:30 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Well, #104 was addressed to him.

Although no one else watched the hearing. /s

109 posted on 04/20/2012 11:20:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Waste of your time addressing that poster.


110 posted on 04/20/2012 11:24:38 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Past experience says ... you're right.

There is no story to link to saying there is a witness who saw a chase. Bald-faced lie.

111 posted on 04/20/2012 11:27:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

I read through the thread quickly, but that poster is so far off base I won’t even waste my time addressing him/her. I would address a poster legitimately looking for answers.


112 posted on 04/20/2012 11:31:11 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: at bay
He was on his way home to watch the game.

He had more than enough time to get back home once Zimmerman lost sight of them. That is established by the times of the 911 calls.

He didn't get back home because he was angry and Zimmerman and wanted to teach him a lesson.

What are you going to do about the witness who says there was a chase?

What witnesses are those?

The prosecution admits it has no evidence that Zimmerman started the physical altercation. The physical evidence, photos of Zimmerman's head bleeding and a witness say Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him severely. If you're being beaten was badly as Zimmerman was, you have right to defend yourself, with lethal force if necessary.

113 posted on 04/20/2012 11:35:39 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: ansel12
What do we know of Barack Obama. He seems to be a legend, a term of intelligence tradecraft denoting an assembled identity.

The New Black Panthers intimidated white voters in 2008. They put a bounty on George Zimmerman. They will intimidate white voters in November.

Trayvon Martin was a drug-using, drug-dealing, burgling, thug, who assaulted George Zimmerman, who was post-mortem portrayed as a victim, a martyr.

Obama's 2006 Kenyan campaign was for the Muslim candidate, and the resultant rioting was violent and murderous.

We may assume that the attorney general and the secretary of Homeland Security and the new martial law powers would be part of a domestic operation.

We are dealing with a practiced Alinskyite, a school which heads for Communist totalitarianism through agitation rather than guerrilla warfare.


114 posted on 04/21/2012 12:40:13 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Yep, who knew that skittles come in copper jacketed flavor.

Too bad, so sad.


115 posted on 04/21/2012 1:42:50 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: Kazan

“He didn’t get back home because he was angry and Zimmerman and wanted to teach him a lesson.”

Exactly. Thanks, vomrade. At least one other person, a thoughtful, articulate poster, can dare speak the truth.


116 posted on 04/21/2012 3:07:54 AM PDT by at bay (Did you say you're sorry to the police? "No sir.(then) I don't remember...(then) I believe I did.")
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To: TigersEye

Come call me a liar to my face, you coward. You say you “heard” the entire hearing. Funny you didn’t “see” it as well. I did, as well as Vinnie Polatano’s excellent commentary and coverage.

The investigator misspoke. Not a very bright guy with a bad toupee. You are the bs’er here, relying on the conjecture of others instead of carefully listening to the evidence. In a case this high profile, do you honestly think they would overcharge? They’ve got the goods, and as the prosecutor, clearly exasperated today said, Wait for the trial!”

At least wait for the affirmative defense hearing and then have the character to apologize for your baseless insults.


117 posted on 04/21/2012 3:21:48 AM PDT by at bay (Did you say you're sorry to the police? "No sir.(then) I don't remember...(then) I believe I did.")
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To: Ramius
I think that’s exactly what they did. They filed the charge— and took it up to 2nd degree murder precisely to placate the mobs. I don’t know if they can have manslaughter as a lesser included charge or not, in Florida. But they are probably counting on that as their escape from this madness. The facts just won’t support 2nd degree. I thought the prosecutor really made a mistake today by getting too far ahead of himself with the “facts” of the case. Juries decide what the facts are, not prosecutors. He came off looking like a fool, and unprepared

Either way, it's a despicable miscarriage of justice to arrest someone for political ends or to "placate the mobs". If the mobs need "placating" it should be done with rubber bullets, fire hoses, mace, etc. If that doesn't work, due to them being "un-placatable", it might be time to consider real bullets. When you give in to scum like this, you set bad precedents 9over and over again) and it eventually becomes the "norm" to screw a good person to "placate" the mobs.

118 posted on 04/21/2012 3:22:22 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: GeronL
Is this a white man?


119 posted on 04/21/2012 4:34:17 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee
Here you go...a "white" guy, a "black guy" and a "hispanic guy". If you didn't know the people in the photos, would you be able to tell which is which?

I post these pictures just so show how ridiculous the race baiters are for trying to turn this Zimmerman/Martin matter into a "white on black" thing.


120 posted on 04/21/2012 5:09:51 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 25 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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