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Right Wingers In Europe Just Fired Off Two Huge Torpedoes
Business Insider ^ | 22 April 2012 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 04/22/2012 4:51:31 PM PDT by Lorianne

The big news out of the French election: Marine Le-Pen, the head of the far right wing National Front party, secured 20% of the vote in the first round of voting.

Le-Pen is now out of the race (the runoff on May 6 will be between Sarkozy and Socialist challenger Hollande), but a 20% showing for the anti-immigration, Euroskeptic candidate is a lightning bolt for France and all of Europe.

The other big event in Europe this weekend was in the Netherdlands, where a budget deal collapsed thanks to a revolt lead by another right winger: Geert Wilders.

From AFP:

The breakdown after seven weeks of talks on austerity measures between Premier Mark Rutte's ruling coalition and Wilders' eurosceptic, anti-Islamist Freedom Party (PVV) has destabilized the political scene.

Wilders walked out of the talks on Saturday saying his party "could not live up to" European Union demands, arguing that the cuts aimed at steering The Netherlands back within EU deficit targets would hit the elderly the hardest.

So the Netherlands, a country nobody was talking about, is now without a budget, and without a government. Elections will have to be called soon after the coalition breakdown.

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To: GeronL
The European "right' is traditionally ROYALIST.

Nazis and so forth are considered "Socialist". On the other hand a Christian Social party is actually a Roman Catholic oriented party.

There are a lot of variations on these themes, and depending on the policy you can find parties in unusual places ~ usually because of monetary, tax, or expenditure disputes.

In America the Democrats are clearly ROYALISTS ~

21 posted on 04/22/2012 6:51:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
The European "right' is traditionally ROYALIST.

Nazis and so forth are considered "Socialist". On the other hand a Christian Social party is actually a Roman Catholic oriented party.

There are a lot of variations on these themes, and depending on the policy you can find parties in unusual places ~ usually because of monetary, tax, or expenditure disputes.

In America the Democrats are clearly ROYALISTS ~

22 posted on 04/22/2012 6:52:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lorianne

20% is only 8 points off the leaders.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 7:01:47 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The primary reason for the American Revolution was not taxes (a pretext), but expansion, The colonials wanted to expand the colonies to the West, while England, heavily committed to fighting France and being asked to protect the larger colonial possessions, refused. So, in sense, the revolutionaries were imperialists.


24 posted on 04/22/2012 7:06:15 PM PDT by expat2
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The primary reason for the American Revolution was not taxes (a pretext), but expansion, The colonials wanted to expand the colonies to the West, while England, heavily committed to fighting France and being asked to protect the larger colonial possessions, refused. So, in sense, the revolutionaries were imperialists.


25 posted on 04/22/2012 7:06:38 PM PDT by expat2
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To: bravo whiskey
the political spectrum is not linear but circular.

Yeah, it's linear. That circular model is just a sales gimmick to promote socialism in communist school (American Universities)

On the linear scale, all the way to the left is totatalitarian including monarchy, communism and fascism. In the middle is mild socialism.

Not much to the right of center is found outside of the US, except maybe true anarchy, which is all the way to the right.

26 posted on 04/22/2012 7:24:17 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: muawiyah

I don’t really care about royalty, I want the media to be consistent in their labeling. I know that is never going to happen.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 7:31:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: txrefugee
Belgium set a record of going 541 days without a government,

I'm jealous.

28 posted on 04/22/2012 7:34:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Agreed. One the left, the state controls everything. On the right, there is no state. Real life is somewhere in between.


29 posted on 04/22/2012 7:35:37 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: GeronL
The traditional media are dying the death of a thousand paper cuts ~ ain't no paper, ain't no ink, ain't no newspaper, and ain't no stink.

Everything is flowing down hill to the totally unaccountable INTERNET which is as it should be.

Let the reader beware!

30 posted on 04/22/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: expat2
Sometimes we forget who the colonials were. Niles Michigan is located near the very ancient Fort St. Joseph. During the Revolution the Cahokia militia went up there and kicked the Brits out ~ UNDER A SPANISH FLAG.

So, how did that happen?

Part of the answer is that as Spain relinquished rule to France and England, not everybody who stayed behind agreed with that solution. Then, too, there were all those other folks who'd come here from the various parts of the so-called Hapsburg Empire (actually independent states under the rule or influence of members of the same family ~ called the Hapsburgs).

The ambitions of "Spanish" immigrants from what is now Dutch speaking Belgium weren't really that different from the ambitions of "Dutch" immigrants from what is now Nederlands! Once they were here they were all the same thing ~ in the long run England didn't have a chance!

Hapsburg rule weakened and passed on of its own accord, but the people didn't.

31 posted on 04/22/2012 7:51:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lorianne

“So the Netherlands, a country nobody was talking about, is now without a budget...”

So what’s the problem? We haven’t had one of them things for three years!

“...and without a government.”

You’re making me jealous.


32 posted on 04/22/2012 7:58:40 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: bravo whiskey
the political spectrum is not linear but circular.

Here is a very good explanation of the types of 'isms' of that humanity uses, and why we have a republic:

Enjoy!

33 posted on 04/22/2012 7:59:45 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

You’re correct. The American Revolution was - in reality - a Civil War; Colonialists against Royalists. Glad the Royalists lost!


34 posted on 04/22/2012 8:09:17 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Lorianne

Go Geert!!


35 posted on 04/22/2012 8:18:57 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big drug/oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,earthquake/tsumani,fnc,wall st)
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To: brityank
Here is a very good explanation of the types of 'isms' of that humanity uses

" -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people."

36 posted on 04/22/2012 8:26:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: brityank

Btt


37 posted on 04/22/2012 8:49:50 PM PDT by An American in Turkiye
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To: Parmenio
Why do you say that she is pro-life? She supports legalized abortion.

From here:

Note: Marine has said she would attempt to restrict abortions by removing them from insurance coverage, i.e., the woman would pay the medical expense. She has also said that would give married women financial incentives to stay home to raise their children, instead of being forced to work. And she has said that young girls who are pregnant would be given a real choice between abortion and pre-natal adoption. Marine has said that today Planned Parenthood gives girls the choice between an "abortion and an "abortion".

She has thus gone further than any other candidate, and much further than her father or even herself in the past, towards advocating measures that would curtail abortions.

The French Left is currently going nuts over her proposal to stop covering abortion under government health care (ie, if you want an abortion, you have to pay for it yourself).

So it's a bit complicated. Has she come out in favor of making abortion a death-penalty offense? No. Has she taken a more pro-life position than any of the other candidates in France? Yes.

38 posted on 04/23/2012 5:15:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: llandres
I believe he’s also the filmmaker of Fitna (google it - can’t remember if Youtube was intimidated into pulling it or not.) This guy has had death threats, you name it.

Yes he is. Geert has to live under 24/7 guard against Islamic assassins. He also was put on trial for "inciting racial hatred" because of his remarks on Islam.

39 posted on 04/23/2012 5:28:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
" The American Revolutionaries weren’t quite as ‘Revolutionary’ as people think. They fought to maintain traditional English liberties that they considered were being eroded by the British Crown. The subsequent US Constitution was aimed at entrenching those old ideals and liberties against the pressures of increasing government centralisation. The French Revolution was a genuine left-wing Revolutionary attempt to destroy all vestiges of the old system, right down to the attempt to turn the year back to zero... "

Yes. And, no.

The constitution grew out of an attempt to revise the Articles of Confederation. The point of which was to increase centralization because of issues left over from trying to fight an empire with thirteen sovereign (but small and fractious) states.

Eighty or so years later the South suffered from the same issues and lost.

40 posted on 04/23/2012 6:38:26 AM PDT by norton (I will transmit this information to Vladimir.)
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