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The Great California Exodus
WSJ ^ | 4-21-12 | Joel Kotkin

Posted on 04/23/2012 5:08:34 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

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To: originalbuckeye
The USA cannot afford to help.

We already help out. CA has a huge U.S. military presence and all of us are paying the higher costs of supporting that military presence there rather than Mississippi or another state with a much lower cost of living.

CA drags us all down.

21 posted on 04/23/2012 5:45:51 AM PDT by randita
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To: KoRn

Here in northern Idaho, it usually takes only one real winter. Then the for sale signs pop up in the Spring. They’ll leave before the places sell.


22 posted on 04/23/2012 5:48:23 AM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Specifically words not appearing in this article

La Raza
MEChA
Marxism socialism leading to communism

I personally witnessed the corruption of Moonbeam 20 years ago when he helped an individual have a tax problem go away in exchange for 100,000 dollar donation to his political organization. I think it was 501c3 . . . back then???

Moonbeam and the rest don't give a shit about energy and all that crap. He was trained in the order Jesuit preists that only cared about “social justice”

Thinking thats the real narrative

23 posted on 04/23/2012 5:53:41 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
I hope it all works out for you.Is the move to a red state or blue?

Purple, I think - NC. They gave the CA employees the option of moving to the new location. I just doesn't work for the Simpsons at this stage of our lives. I am really looking for more of an underemployed situation anyway. Some of those are still available in CA.

24 posted on 04/23/2012 5:53:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: central_va

-—This is horrible news. It means all those leftist mAssholes moved elsewhere and are now infecting perhaps a perfectly good Southern state. States like Mass, Md, and Ca are like Marxist tumors, when they metastasize it is going to get ugly...-—

My hope is that it’s generally sensible retirees moving south.

Many parents my age have told me that their children have left MA to seek opportunities elsewhere. MA is simply unaffordable for young people.

The problem Massholes seem to be moving locally, to NH, although I’ve heard that New Yorkers have ruined NC.

If we didn’t have a balanced budget amendment, we would have beaten CA to the bottom. Colleges have turned this state into the land of the libidiots.


25 posted on 04/23/2012 5:54:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: TurboZamboni
Mr. Kotkin describes himself as an old-fashioned Truman Democrat. In fact, he voted for Mr. Brown—who previously served as governor, secretary of state and attorney general—because he believed Mr. Brown "was interesting and thought outside the box."

That's B.S. He voted for Brown because he's a dyed-in-the-wool liberal who feared that if a Republican become governor there would be one fewer abortion per year in the state.

26 posted on 04/23/2012 5:56:45 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Perhaps someone will write a novel about this reversal of the story line in “The Grapes of Wrath.”


27 posted on 04/23/2012 6:01:10 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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28 posted on 04/23/2012 6:04:11 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: TurboZamboni
In fact, he voted for Mr. Brown—who previously served as governor, secretary of state and attorney general—because he believed Mr. Brown "was interesting and thought outside the box."

Idiot. The author lost all credibility with me at that point. Just as with Obama, everyone knew EXACTLY what they were getting.

29 posted on 04/23/2012 6:04:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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Mr. Kotkin describes himself as an old-fashioned Truman Democrat. In fact, he voted for Mr. Brown—who previously served as governor, secretary of state and attorney general—because he believed Mr. Brown "was interesting and thought outside the box."

Having moved to CA in 71 you'd think this 'professor' would've had some clue who Brown was. Everyone else who was here from 75 through 83 knew.

Its no coincidence that state was considered paradise in 71 and was well on its way to being a dump twenty years later.

30 posted on 04/23/2012 6:14:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Mine too. I’m not in CA (thank {Diety}). But our company is in the initial stages of moving work out of CA too. Probably means more work, opportunities, etc. for us here. Keep it up CA, we appreciate your (ex) business.


31 posted on 04/23/2012 6:16:33 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: TurboZamboni
California is just the start of the problem. Poor young college graduates being crushed under student loan debt are going to start leaving the country in droves just to escape the lifelong debt. Many graduates face a bright future in the services industry. I had 45K when I graduated with my masters and paid it off in one payment after paying on it for 8 years and not seeing the principle drop one cent. There is no way a student without and engineering degree with 100K to 200K debt is going to pay it off in this economy.

That is why they are trying to pass the law where owing back taxes will invalidate your passport. You cannot leave the plantation if you owe money.

32 posted on 04/23/2012 6:22:31 AM PDT by WMarshal (Bitter Clinger)
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To: central_va

Trouble with Californians is they usually try to re-create their nightmare wherever they run to; but at least when they come to Alaska, they usually stay put in Anchorage.


33 posted on 04/23/2012 6:32:21 AM PDT by Eska
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To: TurboZamboni

You couldn’t give me all the gold in Ft. Knox to move to California.


34 posted on 04/23/2012 6:32:36 AM PDT by MachIV
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"Mr. Kotkin describes himself as an old-fashioned Truman Democrat. In fact, he voted for Mr. Brown..."

So, Mr. Kotkin...STFU! You Sir, have NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN!

35 posted on 04/23/2012 6:36:38 AM PDT by moovova
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To: central_va
...hang dead deer from out front porches

Oh, hell no...the dogs could get at the meat...I hang it from a tree down by the equipment shed.

I hang dead snakes by the front stoop.

36 posted on 04/23/2012 6:36:40 AM PDT by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: central_va

We just sold our little CA house for $3.5M and are heading your way. How much of the state can I buy for $3.5M.

Will you let me in if I show you the 10,000 rounds of .223 that I am bringing with me?


37 posted on 04/23/2012 6:40:25 AM PDT by super7man
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To: and so?
"I hang dead snakes by the front stoop."

And catfish heads on the fence and gate ...


38 posted on 04/23/2012 6:42:33 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: TurboZamboni

So, you get halfway through the article to discover that the guy who has a pretty good grasp of what’s wrong in California says HE VOTED FOR BROWN thinking that Brown would move to fix the problems.

This boils down to being an article about a moron.


39 posted on 04/23/2012 7:01:28 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Eska

Yea,like they’re in the process of ruining Colorado!


40 posted on 04/23/2012 7:15:21 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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