Skip to comments.Romney Obama the Same? [Why support Romney on FR?]
Posted on 04/24/2012 8:48:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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I’m not voting for either democrat. Its that simple.
I really like doom but I think I have heard enough of it lately
when you have convinced everyone that its over ,that life sucks, that there is no reason to vote, that we might as well drink poison, then what?
Thank you very much. Will watch ASAP!
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To the headline: YES, and we shouldn’t.
Small comfort, but one of them has not promised to throw the castle gates open to the circling barbarian hordes.
THere is a difference...one hates America and whites. One wants to destroy. Romney is American, and has a great family. We DO NOT WANT OBAMA BACK..
WOW! So how many on FR will still claim Romney is not a liberal and is not the flip side of BHO?
progressives are progressives.
when you’re the 3rd party in a 2 party system... you insure a win by having your candidates on both sides of the ticket
you insure it by positioning your people in the headquarters for each organization.
the GOP ‘leadership’ needs to be replaced with true TEA party members.
or just form a third party and enforce party plank adherence by kicking out anyone pushing ‘big tent’ progressive bs
Doug Schoen was fawning all over Romney as the great “republican” unifier on FOX this morning.
Mitt must be so proud that lefties like Schoen think he’s our chance at salvation.
Of course there is a big difference. Romney is not a conservative but he isn’t an Anti-American Marxist either. Comparing Romney to Obama is like comparing Canada to the former Soviet Union.
They picked up the wrong glass - there was a Newt glass they failed to notice like evil hoped they would.
(Yeah...that's a real problem...to only have 2 hands to cover 2 eyes and both ears)
Of course, you could always live in some Central African country imbedded in some civil war...or Bangladesh or some country like that always struck by reoccurring floods...or some Third World country where eeking out daily meals becomes a challenge...
That might help your proper redef of "doom" to apply a bit closer to world reality...
Romney is like Mandella, whereas Obama is like Odinga and has violence all over.
I’d rather see the violent nut come out the closet, the quicker, the better.
Coming election time, I am going to start thinking of running for the hills instead of voting, voting with my feet.
Yep. Romney isn’t an America hating, dog eating, communist. At this point that’s all that really matters imo.
I’ll be voting but it will be for house and senate seats.
Just what would a Romney vs Obamah bebate look like.
I agree with Mitt, but...
I agree with the President, but...
"If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner." Nelson Mandela
I agree. ABO.
What is American about baby killing? What is American about same sex marriage? What is American about one nation under Joe Smith? What is American about socialistic healthcare? What's American about his ignoring America's foundation - Our Constitution?
Push your evil somewhere else - Romney hates America and everything she stands for but uses her to push his evil/ugliness on America the Beautiful! He is a pawn of satan!
We’re not saying he’s not a liberal, were just saying he’s not Obama. He was born here, this is his home, he has a great family and doesnt want to make Islam the national religion...
Well, let's see...Romney beat even Hillary Clinton to the race for pioneering socialized healthcare (that had been Hillary's "assignment" from Bill, which she failed)
As for Marxism, just wait til the Mormon "prophet" re-orders Mormons (& who knows what other White House "puppets") to bring back the Mormon communism the mainstream Lds practiced in the 1880s...called the EVERLASTING "United Order"...see chart below...Row 1, columns 2, 3, 4...especially column 4...
Time to review just a few "hints & clues" -- coupled with what I said in my last post...
How has Romney's Mormonism effected his governing in Bay State & His campaign statements?
|GOV. Romney||Mormon 'scripture' & History||Sources||Quotes|
|ObamaCare based upon RomneyCare [SoConPubbie has posted some threads the week of April 16, 2012 along these lines]. In addition, what about Romney's $50 taxpayer-subsidized abortions -- and some $0 abortions -- he permanently imposed a Planned Parenthood rep into supervision of RomneyCare? (Since he vetoed other portions of that legislation, the Planned Parenthood rep section was also something he could have vetoed). For all of the pro-abortion damage done by Romney in the Bay State, see: RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romneys Candidacy [Enabler Mitt]||Mitt's Mormonism embraced socialism/communism under the 'United Order' sacred commands still on the Mormon scriptures depicted to be everlasting commandments of the Mormon god||The Mormon socialistic/communistic everlasting nature of the United Order depicted in Lds scriptures Doctrine & Covenants 82:18-19 and 104:1, 48, 53.||Even Lds author George Givens described Brigham Youngs communist-built community of Orderville, Utah as pure communism: "When Brigham Young established Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration. He made this plain after he became President, when in 1882 he sent an epistle to all authorities of the Church in which he bluntly stated: 'We had no example of the 'United Order' in accordance with the word of God on the subject...Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system [i.e. the system of consecration and stewardship spoken of at times as the 'United Order'] at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.'" (George W. Givens, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, 2004, p. 169)"One of the most famous utopian books ever written was Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy, published in 1889. Some scholars believe Looking Backward had considerable influence in the making of Lenin's Soviet Russia. If this is true, then [ensuing Lds "prophet"] Lorenzo Snow and the Latter-day Saints must receive some of the credit--or blame. Hearing of the success of the United Order in Brigham City, Edward Bellamy made a special trip to Utah in 1886 to study its operation. There he spent three days with Lorenzo Snow, Brigham City's founder and forty-year resident. Impressed with the thirty to forty industries run by its 2,000 inhabitants and the vitality at that time of one of the most successful United Orders, Bellamy returned home and wrote his influential book." (500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, p. 185). Way to go, 19th century Mormon leader-prophets of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor & Lorenzo Snow!!! They all unwittingly fueled Soviet Communism!|
|Mitt Romney is incredibly soft on illegal aliens||Recent Lds history: 2 LDS branch presidents in Utah deported to Guatemala, El Salvador||10 reasons Christians should reject Romney||In 2006 Gov. Romney supported the presidents immigration policy as well as the McCain-Kennedy bill. He expressed support for an immigration program that places large numbers of illegal residents on the path toward citizenship. [without requiring they return home and wait their turn, allowing them to cut in line before law-abiding immigrants] Never mind that Romney hired (then fired) illegal aliens to landscape his yard. If Romney supports unlimited amnesty without any rule of law, how will he stand on national security?|
|Gov. Romney pro-civil unions for same-sex couples 2002-2005 (before he turned against it) and he is still in favor of taxpayer-funded domestic partnership benefits for sexual minorities. He says he supports 'Partnership agreements'. Also, Gov. Romney sucked up to the Bay State Gay Log Cabin...saying he would give the GLBT youth funding a greater spotlight at the fed level to emulate he was endorsed twice by the Log Cabin Club of MA; he said in 1994 and reiterated in 2007 that he was in favor of forcing businesses to hire alternative sexual minorities (in 94 he wanted feds to do it; now he wants the states to do it...his third position on that issue).||Recent Lds history: Homosexual rights: Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights and Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws||10 reasons Christians should reject Romney and Mitt Romneys deception, His Stealth Promotion of Gay Rights and Gay Marriage in Massachusetts, book by Amy Contrada||Per Amy Contradas book, Mitt Romneys deception, His Stealth Promotion of Gay Rights and Gay Marriage in Massachusetts, Gov. Romney, from 2003-2006: worked closely with homosexual activists and pro-gay rights advisers; implemented gay marriage through his executive departments without legislative authorization, violating the Massachusetts Constitution; pushed a constitutional amendment strategy doomed to failure, and ignored the call to remove the activist judges who ruled for gay marriage; funded and promoted GLBT indoctrination in the public schools through his Governors Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, and his Department of Education Safe Schools programs; undermined religious freedom, failing to defend Catholic Charities in the homosexual adoptions fiasco; continued or implemented radical homosexual and transgender programs in his executive departments.|
|Most years of Romney's record which he has talked about abortion, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2004 -- he has used his candidate and gubernatorial bully pulpit to encourage female citizens, readers & listeners to be pro-choice about the baby inside of them. (For those who try to claim hes "changed," hes equivocated in 2007 numerous times about what his pre-2007 stance was saying in January of '07 hes always been for life and saying in August '07 that he never called himself pro-choice, never allowed himself to feel or call himself pro-choice, and that he was never pro-choice. By December of 2007, he was telling Katie Couric in an interview that it was OK for parents to donate their otherwise adoptable embryos to research...my, how pro-life of him...Should all parents consider such donations regardless of the age of their offspring? Why not, Mitt? And click on the first link in the "sources" column to the right to see the true abortion "legacy" of Romney, especially the year 2006||For the official Mormon church position on abortion, see
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm. Apparently, it's "OK" for an abortion if... (a) Incest needs to be covered up; (b) The baby is disabled and needs to be destroyed accordingly; (c) Mom's "health" (whatever that means...distinct from saying "life" of the mother); (d) If the abortionist says it's "OK"; (e) If the Mormon god says it's "OK" in prayer...E alone above could "justify" abortion to individual Mormons as long it overrides the person's conscience!
|RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romneys Candidacy [Enabler Mitt]; See also: GOP frontrunner Romney shirks pro-life pledge: Bachmann, Santorum criticize; Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side (see quote next column); Candidates Reveal Their Biggest Mistakes (see quote next column)||November, 2011, Parade Magazine interview: In the past youve said hes changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; weve always been pro-life ( December 4, 2007: Romney: ...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos. But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law." Any "inquiring minds" want to try wrapping their minds around how a politician in one sentence mentions "adopting" embryos out (yes, a great thing to mention!) -- but then in the very NEXT breath says if a "PARENT" wants to be "pro-choice" (Mitt used the word "decides" which is what "pro-choicers" say they want) "to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable." Say what???? How about 8-month gestationally-aged infants in the womb, Mitt? Or already-born infants, too, Mitt? If a "parent decides they would want to donate one of those...for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable..." No??? What's the 'pro-life' difference, Mitt? Here you call an embryo's mom&dad "parents" -- but "parents" w/ "research" give-away rights? How bizarre we have such schizophrenic "candidate!"|
|What about Marion G. Romney, cousin to Mitt's father?||Who was he in Lds hierarchy? (Title: 'President' - Top 3 of church as 2nd counselor to both #11 & #12 Lds 'prophets')||(Things As They Really Are, p. 73). Cited in official Lds publication, Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, pp. 275-276 (1984)||"Elder Neal A. Maxwell has said: 'Following the living prophets is something that must be done in all seasons and circumstances. We must be like President Marion G. Romney, who humbly said, '..I have never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional, and political life' (Conference Report, April 1941, p. 123). There are, or will be moments when prophetic declarations collide with our pride or our seeming personal interests...Do I believe in the living prophet even when he speaks on matters affecting me and my specialty directly? Or do I stop sustaining the prophet when his words fall in my territory? if the latter, the prophet is without honor in our country!|
|Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America||y||y||n|
|Defended Roe v Wade as settled law||y||y||n|
|Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok||y||y||n|
|Supported planned parenthood||y||y||n|
|Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion||y||y||n|
|Supports homosexual agenda||y||y||n|
|Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in Scouts||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in military||y||y||n|
|Supported and still supports global warming hoax||y||y||n|
|Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban)||y||y||n|
|Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty)||y||y||n|
|Is undeniable father of RomneyCare||n||y||n|
|Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare||n||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is great!||y||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution"||n||y||n|
|Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional||y||y||n|
|Still believes individual mandate ok at state level||y||y||n|
|Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights)||?||y||n|
|Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there||y||y||n|
|Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary||y||y||n|
|Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax)||n||n||y|
|Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate)||n||n||y|
|Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year||n||n||y|
|Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits||n||n||y|
|Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment||n||n||y|
|Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people||n||n||y|
|Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry||n||n||y|
|Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights||n||n||y|
|Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges||y||y||n|
|Will challenge activist judiciary||n||n||y|
|Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up||n||n||y|
EVIL doesn’t NOT have a nationality! One would have to be deaf/dumb and willingly blind not to know that!
He comes to kill/rob/destroy to ANYONE who he can deceive.
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LOL you guys are seriously coming unglued over Romney, calm down man. Spawn of Satan really? Obama fits that description much more. He’s muslim, a communist,closet gay, hates Israel, hates whites, hates the USA and what she stands for, and believes in black liberation theology and islam.
I think that's what all the prepping is about. It doesn't matter who wins. The Republicans like the absolute power and unlimited privilege as much as the Democrats. They just won't admit it publicly, but if you'll notice - they never do anything to reverse it. They just inherit it all every time they win. All that power and unlimited pleasure becomes theirs.
That's why the RNC sees the TEA Party as a serious threat. That's why they chose to tilt the tables for a far left wing guy like Romney. It's punishment for the TEA Parties disobedience. The TEA Party has to learn it's lesson. They MUST become a frindge if the Washington Republicans are going to keep their Kingships.
Its going to be one or the other, Obama hates whites...he has created more chaos in his short time than ever before in our history. He has all the pieces in place to completely clamp down on us at a moments notice. He loves that there are 100,000 terrorist in America now, waiting for the right moment to terrorize us. He has as we have learned placed Muslims in the FBI. Time to grow up and see that this is life as it is. Not as we wish it were. It took years to get here, now it may take years to get back to where we should be.
None of whom have ever served in the military.
“Romney isnt an America hating, dog eating, communist.”
No... but he is a America using, horse eating, socialist.
At least your preferences are clear in this battle of animal eaters.
Give the Mormons time to resurrect their communistic "United Order" & impose it this time beyond Mormons...see post #33...row 1, columns 2,3,4, especially 4...
>>Ill be voting but it will be for house and senate seats.
Same here. Zer0 or Romney, we’ll need solid conservatives in Congress to defeat their socialist agendas.
I’m writing in Newt or Sarah (or a viable conservative 3rd party) for the presidency. It’s about time the RNC GETS THE MESSAGE that WE WANT CONSERVATISM not warmed over socialists in GOP clothing.
We will get a conservative back in the White House one day but we can only do it the same way the left has raised our taxes. One penny at a time. Romney is not the grand slam we were hoping for. But he is a turn in the right direction. Not a conservatively defining turn, but a turn nonetheless. And he should be put on notice that he will have a very short leash.
Yes, there are plenty of similarities between the two and Romney certainly was not my first, second or even third choice. SO? Romney is not Obama and a third party vote or not voting at all only serves to undermine the ultimate goal.
As always... JMHO.
HOW DO YOU HONESTLY KNOW THAT? I'd say you just want to believe it!
Same here. I don’t care how many posters here of good faith start up with the “have to support Romney” no matter what...
If the GOP wants Romney, they should be able to have enough votes from moderates and independents in both parties to drag
him over the finish line, without my conservative vote.
Let them carry the weight, if they want him so badly.
Did you even watch the video?
If Virgil Goode is on my ballot I’ll vote for him for president.
Its no more of a wasted vote than voting for Romney because Romney will be crushed by Obama anyway.