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Labor Dept. withdraws farm child labor rule one day after Daily Caller report goes viral
Daily Caller ^ | 4/26/12 | Paul Conner

Posted on 04/26/2012 6:06:03 PM PDT by Nachum

Under pressure from farming advocates in rural communities, and following a report by The Daily Caller, the Obama administration withdrew a proposed rule Thursday that would have applied child labor laws to family farms.

Critics complained that the regulation would have drastically changed the extent to which children could work on farms owned by family members. The U.S. Department of Labor cited public outcry as the reason for withdrawing the rule.

“The decision to withdraw this rule — including provisions to define the ‘parental exemption’ — was made in response to thousands of comments expressing concerns about the effect of the proposed rules on small family-owned farms,” the Department said in a press release Thursday evening. “To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”

The rule would have dramatically changed what types of chores children under the age of 16 could perform on and around American farms. It would have prohibited them from working with tobacco, operating almost all types of power-driven equipment and being employed to work with raw farm materials.

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1 posted on 04/26/2012 6:06:11 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 04/26/2012 6:07:06 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Li’l Bammy getting ANOTHER lesson on his endless stupidity.


3 posted on 04/26/2012 6:12:34 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: Nachum

Labor Dept. withdraws WH garden child-Obummer labor rule one day after Moochie goes viral


4 posted on 04/26/2012 6:12:51 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Obummer in Wh garden?! Who knew?)
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To: Nachum

Color me skeptical.

Are they suspending the rule, or only refusing to enforce it on “family” farms?

The reason I am skeptical is because a good many “family” farms are indeed incorporated, even though they are really and truly family farms.

I bet the fedgov enforces this crap on the incorporated family farms.

Families have been running farms in this country for over 200 years. There is no reason (that is not nefarious) for the Feds to pass any such laws this late in the game.


5 posted on 04/26/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nachum

Obama will have more flexibility in a 2nd term. He won’t need laws. His pet agencies will just make any rules they(he) wants.


6 posted on 04/26/2012 6:17:26 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Nachum
The Federal gubermint has run amok and this started long before the Obama administration. They are simply taking it to extremes and thereby illustrating the problem with their absurdity.

What is the Constitutional basis for such a rule? without a doubt it will be said to fall under the poor, tortured Commerce Clause. It is time for a clarifying amendment to return our Country to sanity and power back to the States.

7 posted on 04/26/2012 6:17:38 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (SpaceX Dragon launch to ISS, Cape Canaveral AFS, May 7, 9:38 AM EDT)
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To: Nachum

I am surprised and don’t believe this is a permanent plan for them!’


8 posted on 04/26/2012 6:18:33 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: Nik Naym
“To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”

"To be clear" seems to be the BHO administration's favorite phrase. I am skeptical of everything they do. They withdrew it because of public opinion, or it was all orchestrated from the beginning to make it look like they are willing to be kind of enough to "give" us some of our rights and freedoms back--as if they ever had the power to take them away to begin with?

9 posted on 04/26/2012 6:21:33 PM PDT by Elvina ( crimethink - To even consider any thought not in line with the principles of Ingsoc.)
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To: Nachum

Deferred until next year.


10 posted on 04/26/2012 6:21:44 PM PDT by OldPossum
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This ridiculous incursion into American farm life was born out of 0bama and his socialist followers believing (deeply) that they know best what is good for all of us. This was about control, like 99% of the other crap he and his minions have foist on the American people.
The simple truth is that this country would be in much better shape if the values that drive American family farms were incorporated across the social fabric of America.
Hard work doesn’t deprive young people of their youth. It builds their character to face adulthood better prepared to rely on themselves and take responsibility for their own successes and their own failures.
The work ethic of the American family farm is one that clearly demonstrates that achievement comes with effort, and that difficulties can be overcome without having to rely on the handouts of government.

0bama needs to be thrown out on his ear, along with the socialists he brought along for this trampling of the US Constitution and the American way of life.


11 posted on 04/26/2012 6:21:52 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Nachum

Is it OK for my kids to finish cutting the grass?


12 posted on 04/26/2012 6:22:28 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Nik Naym
Families have been running farms in this country for about 10,000 years ~ maybe more.

Agricultural endeavor is as ancient here as anywhere.

This Solis gal is a known Commie. Apparently she's among the stupid commies because even the Chicoms have given up on the commune model.

13 posted on 04/26/2012 6:24:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum

The nannies have no backbone, except when they smell the taste of the raw power they crave. But never fear, this outrageous proposal will be back, maybe in different clothes, but the craven socialists will never stop trying.


14 posted on 04/26/2012 6:26:14 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Nachum
Not so fast. From Farm safety expert: Know what's in proposed child labor law

"While the Agricultural Hazardous Occupations Order was written in an effort to protect children from dangerous situations, it could prevent many young people from working on family farms or participating in agriculture-related educational programs.

Under the proposed changes, the "parental exemption" itself would not apply to incorporated family farms, Field noted.

"Many small, family farms are incorporated because of the tax advantages," he said. "But when a farm is incorporated, parents are considered a corporate entity and they would not be covered by the parental exemption."

Field said that due to negative feedback from producer groups, the U.S. Department of Labor has appeared to back off of this provision as it relates to incorporated farms. However, he said there has yet to be a published revision."


15 posted on 04/26/2012 6:28:21 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Nachum

Farm land is currently an investment opportunity. A government rule that >increases farming costs may put more family farms on the market.
A lot of things done under the guise of ‘the government is here to help you’ are really just opportunities for politicians&cronies to make money.


16 posted on 04/26/2012 6:28:58 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Nachum

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


17 posted on 04/26/2012 6:31:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Nachum

King: Obama Administration Finally Caves on Youth Farm Labor

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Washington, DC- Congressman Steve King (R-IA) released the following statement today after the Department of Labor announced that it will withdraw its proposed rule to prohibit young people from working on family farms and participating in agriculture education programs including Future Farmers of America and 4-H.

“Once again President Obama’s overreaching policies have outraged the American people,” said King. “I’m happy to see the backlash surrounding this rule has prompted the Department of Labor to withdraw the proposed rule. The Department of Agriculture collaborated with the Department of Labor on this direct assault of American family farms. Family farms are the core of American culture, and for centuries they have played a large role in instilling a strong work ethic in young people. I know because I raised my three sons in rural Iowa and taught them the value of hard work.”

“I’m pleased to have had the support of many farm families as I’ve worked to oppose this rule in order to ensure that young people will still have the same opportunities. This policy was not only unnecessary, it threatened the very way of life that I and so many others hold dear. When will President Obama realize that his out of touch policies do not reflect the values of the American people? His actions continue to show that he is disconnected with the people in the heartland of this great country.”

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http://www.steveking.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4399&Itemid=300099


18 posted on 04/26/2012 6:33:03 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Nachum
Before this, there was this:

Comment from Hilda Solis, Secretary of Labor last summer:


19 posted on 04/26/2012 6:35:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Elvina
“To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”

The Obama "administration" ends Jan of 2013 regardless of whether he wins or loses. We are the only ones who can ensure that it's not replaced with the Obama "era of flexibility"

20 posted on 04/26/2012 6:36:14 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only thing liberals favor manufacturing here is fake outrage.)
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To: HighWheeler

A lesson he did not learn, If he gets re-elected he will come back with more flexibility and he won’t care what farmers think.


21 posted on 04/26/2012 6:36:14 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: umgud

Amen Brother: I just posted that very thought.


22 posted on 04/26/2012 6:37:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Is it OK for my kids to finish cutting the grass?

As long as they're done by January you should be good.

23 posted on 04/26/2012 6:37:24 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only thing liberals favor manufacturing here is fake outrage.)
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To: Venturer

All the Obama administration studied in USSR


24 posted on 04/26/2012 6:38:23 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Nachum

Goes to show you Bullies are pussies. Stand up to them, they lick their balls and slink away.


25 posted on 04/26/2012 6:39:46 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"Is it OK for my kids to finish cutting the grass?"

With a motor? No. They may reach under the deck.

With a manual push? No. They may trip on a root and thrust their fingers into the rotor blades.

With scissors? No. They may run, fall, and impel themselves.

With a goat? No. The goat poop creates fecal runoff that poisons the wetland created by the lack of maintenance to government controlled drainage systems, as well as methane production.

So - NO, just NO. Let them play their video games you rouge.

26 posted on 04/26/2012 6:41:07 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Nachum

Can the kids still work in the family coal mine as miners?


27 posted on 04/26/2012 6:43:09 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Ya'ah teh Shi kis' !)
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To: Nik Naym

If a farm incorporated then that’s a business and not a sole proprietorship. Perhaps they should disincorporate. Choosing one’s mode of business for all the different things done in life is critical in so many ways.


28 posted on 04/26/2012 6:45:02 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: molson209
"If I Were a Rich Man...."
29 posted on 04/26/2012 6:46:11 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Nachum
.. What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest,
had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? ..

AS


note: Pigs are omnivores .. half-digested nazis make for tough forensics

30 posted on 04/26/2012 6:47:42 PM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: combat_boots
Little Gulag on the Prairie:
31 posted on 04/26/2012 6:48:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots
Yes We Can! Are YOU in?
32 posted on 04/26/2012 6:51:22 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s what I was wondering. I wonder if it’s ok for them to work with raw meat when cooking supper?


33 posted on 04/26/2012 6:52:42 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Nik Naym

That’s right, and it’s a nefarious reason IMO they are trying to put the small family farms under, and that’s to create government run farms to make the populace beholden ever more to their Socialist Government for everyday needs.

Communism.


34 posted on 04/26/2012 6:59:16 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Nachum

Axelrod told Obummer that you better tell the Unions we are going to lose the election on this issue. You see how fast Obummer fliped flopped his labor department. The end of the road is near as America will wake up vote Obummer out in November. He keeps getting the snowball gaining speed as it rolls towards the election.


35 posted on 04/26/2012 6:59:45 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Nachum

Many farmers vote democrat because of all the government handouts. There must have been a big call volumn.


36 posted on 04/26/2012 7:01:16 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Nachum

This is not a win IMO, but simply a reaction to being exposed. They will now take time out to reevaluate their approach, and re enter with the same plate of crap from another direction that they deem less conspicuous.


37 posted on 04/26/2012 7:01:16 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: gghd

Farm land in Maryland where I live is either left in the family or purchased by Doctors or Lawyers who have the bucks to buy . No farm in this state that I know of could buy the land ,pay the mortgage and fertilizer bill, and grow enough to to make a decent living. We have a few farmers who are big time and work acreage for others who have given up, but where I live there isn’t a former farmer around who hasn’t had to find outside work,or take on acreage under a lease.


38 posted on 04/26/2012 7:01:28 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I have a friend who is a DC lawyer who told me about his investment in a large MD farm in February of this year. Said it was a good way to park his money since he couldn’t get a return in the banks at 1/2% interest.


39 posted on 04/26/2012 7:12:47 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Nachum

I’ve got a suggestion which may in turn expose the reason they tried to implement these rules.

Let’s get anyone and everyone that had anything to do with promulgating these rules. Then let’s ask anyone there with hands-on farm experience to stand up. Assuming anybody stands up (I doubt it), let’s ask each one how many man years of experience they have. Betcha the total won’t be more than 25.

This is what happens when do nothing bureaucrats try to rule make for something they know nothing about. It’s gotta stop!

How about a FOIA summons to produce information about all contacts with FAA, the Farm Bureau, 4H and other farm organizations requesting input on these rules. Betcha it’s damn near zip.


40 posted on 04/26/2012 7:14:05 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: glorgau
“If a farm incorporated then that’s a business and not a sole proprietorship. “

Any family farm is a business.

Many family businesses are incorporate.

Please tell me why they should have to “disincorporate” to continue running the farm?

Here is a better idea: the government can go screw itself.

And so can those who think we need more regulations and not less.

41 posted on 04/26/2012 7:14:24 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nachum

They are just cockroaches testing, testing, testing the limits of how far they can go without being noticed.


42 posted on 04/26/2012 7:18:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Nik Naym

Many family businesses are incorporateD.

(Man I gotta get this keyboard replaced.)


43 posted on 04/26/2012 7:18:36 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Venturer

Thank you for your reply. My comment was >not especially about farm land but how some laws ‘created’ by the government actually benefit politians&cronies.

As I understand it, there has been an increase interest by investors in the buying&selling of farm land.


44 posted on 04/26/2012 7:23:56 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Nik Naym

Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Dictator Obama grows louder:

regulate -— control -— destroy -— Regulate -— control -— destroy -— REgulate -— control -— destroy -— REGulate -— control -— destroy -— REGU


45 posted on 04/26/2012 7:33:33 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Goes to show you Bullies are pussies. Stand up to them, they lick their balls and slink away.”

D@mn skippy! I thought these Marxist revolutionaries were fearless and had the courage of their convictions.

No, they’ll get their way the oldfashioned sneaky way behind our backs.


46 posted on 04/26/2012 7:38:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke the Aswan High Dam. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Keith in Iowa
and participating in agriculture education programs including Future Farmers of America and 4-H.

I believe that was the real point here. I don't think is is so much the prohibition, they are camouflaging going after the rural and farm kids he can not reach any other way.

“The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.”

...90-hour federal government training course....

Anyone care to guess what the 90 hours of “federal government training” will contain?

Perhaps something along the lines of what is in this?

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

In the >>> EXACT <<< same PUBLIC statement he said he would make federal assistance conditional on school districts establishing service programs and set the goal of 50 hours of mandatory service a year for middle school and high school students.

...50 hours of mandatory service a year for middle school and high school students...

Just as he was three years ago, he is attempting mandatory control of the kids. Only now the monster is going after the rural and farm kids he can not reach any other way.

With the power grab at family farms, he wanted to make himself the all powerful, all knowing fed-gov the ultimate authority, placing himself above the parents.

.

47 posted on 04/26/2012 7:43:31 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: All

It works when enough people complain and stick together....It would work in other circumstances also...If you get my drift....


48 posted on 04/26/2012 7:55:53 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: Nachum
“To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”

Remember what the liar whispered to the communist, "Comrade, wait until after the election, I will have more flexibility to shove it up the American asses".

49 posted on 04/26/2012 8:02:34 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Nachum

They got a call from the White House and were told that after the election, they’d have more ‘flexibility’.


50 posted on 04/26/2012 8:04:21 PM PDT by Spok
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